2015 Offseason Thread

[roadman]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

Yes, he's pretty solid despite what King says about him. lol

Which King? lol

[King_B_Mack]

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As long as Thibs is in control of the rotations, his teams aren't achieving much in the playoffs. Guys can't play 40+ minutes all season and still be fresh in the postseason.

Perfect assistant coach. Flawed head coach.

I swear the whole Thibs and minutes thing is the most tired and lame narrative throughout this whole thing. Jimmy lead the league playing 38.7 minutes this year, the next person after that is James Harden at 36.8 and Kyrie at 36.4. Not one Bull player was even in the top ten of total minutes played this year that went to Harden, Wiggins, Ariza, Lillard and Paul just out of the top 5. Last year, not one Bulls player cracked the top ten in total minutes played, but Jimmy was second in minutes per game at 38.7. Who was number one? Carmelo at 38.7. Rest of the top five? Kevin Durant at 38.5, Demar DeRozen at 38.2, James Harden at 38.0 and just for you know what's and giggles LeBron was sixth at 37.7 yet the only person that every gets killed for "running his guys into the ground" with 40+ minutes for his guys is Thibs. It's pretty sad at this point.

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@WojYahooNBA
Thibodeau knew it was coming and will collect the $9 million owed him on his contract.

Which is what I figured and I love how Sheridan jumped out acting like he had a secret. Worst kept secret of the offseason.

[cima]

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Wait so Thibs was Sheridan's rumor?

[King_B_Mack]

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I would assume if his rumor is even legit (which it more than likely isn't), it wouldn't be the Thibs move since Thibs getting fired has been a thing since pretty much before the season even started.

[vtcha]

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...Contract-Plans

Give it up Dwyane...damaged goods. Not sure why he thinks he could command more money at this point in his career. He's getting older and worse as each year passes and can't carry a team anymore. Every franchise can learn from the Lakers/Kobe about not being loyal to a fault.

I don't know. I just don't buy it.

The reports kind of contradicts itself.

1. Wade wants more money
2. Wade is willing to leave if Heat aren't willing to pay.

The problem is, Miami is the only team that is more likely to overpay for him because of the history. No team is going to offer him $15+ million on a 3 year deal.

I'm just going to throw this out there in the extremely unlikely event that these reports are true:
Wade opts out and signs with the Cavs with whatever money they have left after K-Love walks. Even though the signing makes no sense in terms of need, it happens because, well, LeBron is the GM...

[King_B_Mack]

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I don't know. I just don't buy it.

The reports kind of contradicts itself.

1. Wade wants more money
2. Wade is willing to leave if Heat aren't willing to pay.

The problem is, Miami is the only team that is more likely to overpay for him because of the history. No team is going to offer him $15+ million on a 3 year deal.

I'm just going to throw this out there in the extremely unlikely event that these reports are true:
Wade opts out and signs with the Cavs with whatever money they have left after K-Love walks. Even though the signing makes no sense in terms of need, it happens because, well, LeBron is the GM...

I thought that too when I read about this and when I saw he had an opt out for this year. I don't think they can afford him though even if Love walks. Not sure on that, I don't know what Kyrie's number is for next year which will be kicking in.

I wouldn't mind him coming home finally. He's pretty broken down to get through a full year, but with Thibs gone now, practices wouldn't be so rough. Put him on a Spurs type of preservation schedule and toss him out there for the playoffs and he'd definitely make a difference with this offensive dry spell thing we have. That's not likely though considering our cap situation.

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I'm going to get heat for this but I really think at this point Thibs is a bit overrated.

He reminds me of D'Antoni. The minutes issues, the mismanagement of rotations.

Even bigger than that is that, similar to Pringles, he's a one way coach who has had his system (or major principles) taken and applied by most coaches around the league. That diminishes his value a lot.

Still think he's a good coach overall, but don't think it's that big of a deal he's gone.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2015 Offseason Thread

It all depends on who they replace him with him.

That being said, one thing that can't be argued against him is that he got the most out of whatever talent he had. Hell, he basically got Nate Robinson and DJ Augustin paid to use one example.

I do agree with King in that minutes thing is a bit overblown though in which people still hold him somewhat responsible for Rose blowing his knee out.

Still a Top 5 HC overall to me(I don't rank Coaches from one year to the next like they're individual players).

[vtcha]

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I think Thibs absolutely flourishes more as an assistant than a HC.

Teams like the Mavs, Pelicans, OKC and Clippers (ties with Doc) could definitely use his service as a defensive specialist assistant.

[cima]

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I thought that too when I read about this and when I saw he had an opt out for this year. I don't think they can afford him though even if Love walks. Not sure on that, I don't know what Kyrie's number is for next year which will be kicking in.

I wouldn't mind him coming home finally. He's pretty broken down to get through a full year, but with Thibs gone now, practices wouldn't be so rough. Put him on a Spurs type of preservation schedule and toss him out there for the playoffs and he'd definitely make a difference with this offensive dry spell thing we have. That's not likely though considering our cap situation.

That's my problem with Wade though. They consciously sat him out of back-to-backs in 13-14 and when it mattered most (the NBA Finals), he was extremely useless (relatively speaking for the salary he was making).

[cima]

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I don't know. I just don't buy it.

The reports kind of contradicts itself.

1. Wade wants more money
2. Wade is willing to leave if Heat aren't willing to pay.

The problem is, Miami is the only team that is more likely to overpay for him because of the history. No team is going to offer him $15+ million on a 3 year deal.

I'm just going to throw this out there in the extremely unlikely event that these reports are true:
Wade opts out and signs with the Cavs with whatever money they have left after K-Love walks. Even though the signing makes no sense in terms of need, it happens because, well, LeBron is the GM...

I think Wade leaving would be out of principle if the Heat don't pay him, he would probably feel he's owed it or something.

Wade signing with the Cavs would be hilarious but I'd almost rather see him go to SA and replace Manu because that could be even more ironic.

[areobee401]

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ESPN are reporting Scott Skiles and Orlando could finalize a deal as early as today.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Which means they'll be looking for another coach in about 3-4 years.

Teams keep hiring these retreads and then we wonder why the TO rate among Coaches is so damn high and why half the teams can never get out of their own way.

[OSUFan_88]

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I'll never understand how Scott Skiles keeps getting jobs.

I mean, the guy is a good coach, but has no idea how to handle or manage people.