2015 Offseason Thread

[redsox4evur]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

Kobe gets brought up a lot and bashed for no reason. I never understood OS hate for that man.

Depends on what he's getting bashed for. His 2K rating deserves to be questioned. But that's another thread and I'm going to leave it at that.

Also King it kinda would be like Pippen got carried to his 3 rings with Jordan.

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Kobe gets brought up a lot and bashed for no reason. I never understood OS hate for that man.

But nobody is bashing kobe

Why are you even bringing that up?

[ojandpizza]

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If that's bashing, then saying Jordan carried Pippen to his rings is bashing as well right?

Usually when someone does say that we have 10 people quickly jump in to defend Pip.


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[King_B_Mack]

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Usually when someone does say that we have 10 people quickly jump in to defend Pip.


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Nobody jumped in this time. It was said about two pages back.

[dubcity]

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Usually when someone does say that we have 10 people quickly jump in to defend Pip.


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I won't do that directly, because I was the one who said MJ carried him, but I will say that people forget how good that Bulls team performed when MJ tried baseball ...

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Usually when someone does say that we have 10 people quickly jump in to defend Pip.


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Since the actual conversation has evolved

Pippen doesn't go around saying he didn't appreciate MJ until he had to play with Bonzi Wells

That's pretty much where this whole thing would lie.... in this case as well as Shaq's, they carried the load more than anyone and that's not a bash, nor is it certainly an argument.

Some people are just sensitive to "their" player more than the team itself.

[Vni]

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But nobody is bashing kobe?

Naaaaaah, never.

[Scott812313]

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If that's bashing, then saying Jordan carried Pippen to his rings is bashing as well right?

We both know those situations aren't close to the same. Pippen was great, but he was never the best player in the world for the better part of a decade like Kobe.

[King_B_Mack]

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We both know those situations aren't close to the same. Pippen was great, but he was never the best player in the world for the better part of a decade like Kobe.

Neither was Kobe but let's not go down that road.


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[ojandpizza]

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Since the actual conversation has evolved



Pippen doesn't go around saying he didn't appreciate MJ until he had to play with Bonzi Wells



That's pretty much where this whole thing would lie.... in this case as well as Shaq's, they carried the load more than anyone and that's not a bash, nor is it certainly an argument.



Some people are just sensitive to "their" player more than the team itself.

I understand all that though.

All I'm saying is that the wording of "carried" is where I can see people disagreeing.

Not that I care one way or the other, but if I came on here and said "LeBron carried Wade/Bosh" there would be those same reactions as well. Pages of people telling me how much I'm underplaying Bosh's contributions and what not.


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I understand all that though.

All I'm saying is that the wording of "carried" is where I can see people disagreeing.

Not that I care one way or the other, but if I came on here and said "LeBron carried Wade/Bosh" there would be those same reactions as well. Pages of people telling me how much I'm underplaying Bosh's contributions and what not.


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I get what youre saying but again

He was being technical

Secondly kobe only fans have always hated when you mention how important shaq was and maybe a little more important than Kobe due to his sheer dominance.

Its been like that forever. Real lakers team fans dont argue that.

When you look back in history i dont care how many numbers you throw out... O'neal deservedly has 3 finals MVPs on record and it wasn't a mistake...especially not 3 times in a row

But like i said that wasn't even the conversation it was just taken there by someone. The podcast was about something Kobe said not about him being carried or not.

Smh

[cam21224]

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I get what youre saying but again

He was being technical

Secondly kobe only fans have always hated when you mention how important shaq was and maybe a little more important than Kobe due to his sheer dominance.

Its been like that forever. Real lakers team fans dont argue that.

Smh

Exactly why I can't wait until the sunsets on his career.


Whether you used carried or more important dudes were still going to be in their feelings. Shaq was definitely the MAN of the team, it's not like you said Kobe was the Robert Horry of the team just Shaq was the focal point, they needed each other to a degree.

Shaq needed a wing to take some of the scoring load off when he was being doubled and triple teamed, and Steak Bean Bryant needed a dominate number 1 which is what he had. I might hurt the Kobe's feelings but you could of swapped Kobe for Vince, Tracy or Ray and I still believe Shaq would of got his three, that's how unstoppable he was at the time.

I still believe Pau deserves one of those finals mvp's, but somehow this man Kobe gets all the glory when we win but it's everyone else fault when we don't in these Stan eyes.

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Exactly why I can't wait until the sunsets on his career.


Whether you used carried or more important dudes were still going to be in their feelings. Shaq was definitely the MAN of the team, it's not like you said Kobe was the Robert Horry of the team just Shaq was the focal point, they needed each other to a degree.

Shaq needed a wing to take some of the scoring load off when he was being doubled and triple teamed, and Steak Bean Bryant needed a dominate number 1 which is what he had. I might hurt the Kobe's feelings but you could of swapped Kobe for Vince, Tracy or Ray and I still believe Shaq would of got his three, that's how unstoppable he was at the time.

I still believe Pau deserves one of those finals mvp's, but somehow this man Kobe gets all the glory when we win but it's everyone else fault when we don't in these Stan eyes.

This here...

[roadman]

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Not to interrupt these Kobe news flashes, but here is a bit of a Fear the Deer tale of the tape.

Actually, it's a Greek Freak highlight fest of his international Greek team.

Hopefully, he continues making the trey.

http://behindthebuckpass.com/2015/08/30/giannis-antetokounmpo-thriving-with-greece/

[CMH]

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http://www.dailynews.com/sports/2015...e-bryant-tweet

Lol "spoiled Lakers fans."

Russell might end up being the most hated loved member of this Lakers squad. But when you come out and say things like that, you've got a fan in me.

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