2015 Offseason Thread

[Armor and Sword]

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I agree about the Heat though. They're building a damn good squad. Only thing thats concerning about them is the health of Wade.

Agreed. Wade can't give them 82 games anymore. But with Winslow in the fold he does not potentially have to anymore. Wade actually played great last season in his 62 games. He looked like one of the top SG in the league again. But he is at the end of the line.

BTW I would have slight concerns about Lebron breaking down a little. The last 5 years he has played all the way through the Finals. That is a massive toll on your body. He really needs Kyrie to be that guy. But that kid is snake bit with injuries every single year.

Should be Cav's and Heat in the end for ECF.....I would love that.

[JJJones135]

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So The Heat get a massive early Christmas present last night from the NBA draft.

I expect everyone to be back....even Deng. But if Deng walks...so be it.

Looks like a ECF contender on paper. If the team stays healthy I love our chances at a trip to the Finals again.


As far as Kevin Love......kiss him goodbye Cleveland. I think he bails for either Boston or LA (Lakers). He does not want to be a third wheel. He is not wired like Bosh who deferred brilliantly during the big 3 era. Lebron traded away Wiggins for that guy.


In hindsight it looks awful if Love indeed walks. And I expect him too. Time will tell...should know in the next week or so. Hell I would resign Tristen Thompson to good money before giving it Kevin Love who has not proven much other than some nice numbers on a losing team. He never fit in with the Cav's both on and off the court.

I don't think Lebron cares if he comes back to be frank. But to give away Wiggins.....and not get him back in the fold.....ouch. That will sting IMO big time.

So Kyrie broke down yet again. Love got injured as well.

Lebron did more heavy lifiting this year than he ever did with the Heat. LOL.

Had to gloat a little. You reap what you sow.

Lmao yeah I agree with the dude above me that all this is honestly crap. Dude I know as a fan you gotta think positive but the chances of Dwade being healthy and/or during the whole playoffs is well just very unlikely. So Dwade broke down again could've been used every year past 2011 at least some point in the playoffs or regular season and I didn't see LeBron get much help last year when his team got beat by the Spurs in 5 by a record margin. This was year one my God did you forget your God awful start when the big 3 first came to the heat your asking the same questions every bspn analyst asked "Can they work together?" Lmao wtf was chris bosh in Toronto? A dude who put up good numbers on a crappy team and he certainly fit differently in Miami.

[JJJones135]

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Agreed. Wade can't give them 82 games anymore. But with Winslow in the fold he does not potentially have to anymore. Wade actually played great last season in his 62 games. He looked like one of the top SG in the league again. But he is at the end of the line.

BTW I would have slight concerns about Lebron breaking down a little. The last 5 years he has played all the way through the Finals. That is a massive toll on your body. He really needs Kyrie to be that guy. But that kid is snake bit with injuries every single year.

Should be Cav's and Heat in the end for ECF.....I would love that.

Ok so your concerned with a guy who's been healthy the past 5 straight years because he's had longer seasons. Yet you're not as concerned about a guy who can never make it fully through the regular season? A kid snake bit with injuries? (While I agree he is but) wtf has Dwayne Wade been since 2011?....yeah Cavs fans should be the ones worried Jesus lol

[cavsfan2]

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Agreed. Wade can't give them 82 games anymore. But with Winslow in the fold he does not potentially have to anymore. Wade actually played great last season in his 62 games. He looked like one of the top SG in the league again. But he is at the end of the line.

BTW I would have slight concerns about Lebron breaking down a little. The last 5 years he has played all the way through the Finals. That is a massive toll on your body. He really needs Kyrie to be that guy. But that kid is snake bit with injuries every single year.

Should be Cav's and Heat in the end for ECF.....I would love that.

I think Lebron and Kyrie should get a bunch of rest days in the regular season. Keep them as fresh as possible. Might have a lower regular season record but having Kyrie and Lebron being fresh and healthy come playoff time would be worth it.

And yeah that would be some awesome TV

[ojandpizza]

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LeBron traded Wiggins for Love? lol


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Brook Lopez opts out too

[JODYE]

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Agreed. Wade can't give them 82 games anymore. But with Winslow in the fold he does not potentially have to anymore. Wade actually played great last season in his 62 games. He looked like one of the top SG in the league again. But he is at the end of the line.

BTW I would have slight concerns about Lebron breaking down a little. The last 5 years he has played all the way through the Finals. That is a massive toll on your body. He really needs Kyrie to be that guy. But that kid is snake bit with injuries every single year.

Should be Cav's and Heat in the end for ECF.....I would love that.

Sipping that juice early, huh? Lol

Washington, Chicago and Atlanta still exist. Let's pump the brakes a bit.

[JJJones135]

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http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/13154399/boston-celtics-offered-six-picks-charlotte-hornets-no-9-pick-sources-say

Please for the love of God this is just BSPN at work. I honestly don't know who has the worst ownership and management the 76ers, Hornets, or the Kings. This offseason the Kings and Hornets are competing hard for that spot. I can't believe they passed on 6 picks for Frank Kaminksy of all freaking people. I mean we all see how good Cody Zeller turned out but ay Kaminksy can shoot better and can guard guards effectively apparently?m

No chance of a bust right?

[JJJones135]

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Sipping that juice early, huh? Lol

Washington, Chicago and Atlanta still exist. Let's pump the brakes a bit.

IMO as things are right now I think it looks like this in the east

1. Cleveland.
2. Chicago (barring injuries, and I think Mirotic will improve even more and Rose will start to get back into a groove again hopefully.)
3. Washington (would be two but without truth I give Chicago a slight edge)
4. Heat.
5. Atlanta (I don't expect Milsap to be back, plus I think they were one hit wonders but I could be wrong.)

[cima]

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Contract Year-itis


From what I heard, Aldridge has already told Portland he's not coming back. I think Monroe is gone as well, based on what's been going on with his situation these last few years.

Brook is staying and I don't think Love is leaving so that would leave Jordan.

Just saw that Brook opted out. I could see him signing with the Lakers. Is he from Cali or did he just go to Stanford?

[Armor and Sword]

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Lmao yeah I agree with the dude above me that all this is honestly crap. Dude I know as a fan you gotta think positive but the chances of Dwade being healthy and/or during the whole playoffs is well just very unlikely. So Dwade broke down again could've been used every year past 2011 at least some point in the playoffs or regular season and I didn't see LeBron get much help last year when his team got beat by the Spurs in 5 by a record margin. This was year one my God did you forget your God awful start when the big 3 first came to the heat your asking the same questions every bspn analyst asked "Can they work together?" Lmao wtf was chris bosh in Toronto? A dude who put up good numbers on a crappy team and he certainly fit differently in Miami.

Miami had a rough first 20 games.....after that...everything went well. It was Lebron who shrank in 2011. Otherwise we had 3 straight.

As far as 2013/14 A lebron cramp away from being up 2-0 heading back to Miami (I still think they shut off the A/C).

But Wade had a great post season in Lebron's final year.....and ran out of gas against a team that was just on fire.

Cleveland had a great year one. I am not saying they did not. But Love is not Bosh....not even close actually. Never going to be the pick and roll defender Bosh is. Does not have the B-Ball IQ Bosh has...but more importantly does not have the heart he has. Love is a loner. He is not fitting in. Lebron does not care if he walks.

Kyrie is one of the most exciting young stars in the league.....but he is snake bit. He can't stay on the court.

So take it for what it is. Lebron is amazing. But he can;t do it all. AS was proven yet again in this years finals. Once GS figured things out in quarter 4 of game 3...they never looked back.

Lebron's years in Miami will go down as his greatest time in the NBA as far as performance and winning. His efficiency was off the ****ing charts. We got his prime.

In this years Finals he was willing his team to win...but had to become a chucker. He had no help. He walked into a situation where he has total control and it crumbled on him in the end. In Miami he had rules. It was the Heat culture. He and his posse got tired of it. So good riddance. I loved him when he wore my teams colors. I will always remember it. It was special. But the Heat will win again without him. That much I do know.

If Kyrie can stay on the court.....maybe a different outcome this year. Maybe.

GS is a fantastic team top to bottom. So much depth. That is where the Cav's failed big time. You can't rely on Miller and Jones and Marion? Della? Come on. Love went down.....but when Kyrie went down. Done.

And that is Kyrie's MO. So again...Lebron will reap what he sowed. A PG who can't stay healthy and trading a future star winger for a malcontent big man.

Bosh was a great proven player before coming down here.....how long has Love done it for? Bosh is well respected and was having an all-star season till his blood clot took him down. I take Bosh over Love everyday all day. Bosh will be in the HOF....guarantee you Love never sniffs it.

[cavsfan2]

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IMO as things are right now I think it looks like this in the east

1. Cleveland.
2. Chicago (barring injuries, and I think Mirotic will improve even more and Rose will start to get back into a groove again hopefully.)
3. Washington (would be two but without truth I give Chicago a slight edge)
4. Heat.
5. Atlanta (I don't expect Milsap to be back, plus I think they were one hit wonders but I could be wrong.)

Then I guess Raptors at 6, Bucks at 7 and Hornets and Celtics competing for 8?

[cavsfan2]

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Miami had a rough first 20 games.....after that...everything went well. It was Lebron who shrank in 2011. Otherwise we had 3 straight.

As far as 2013/14 A lebron cramp away from being up 2-0 heading back to Miami (I still think they shut off the A/C).

But Wade had a great post season in Lebron's final year.....and ran out of gas against a team that was just on fire.

Cleveland had a great year one. I am not saying they did not. But Love is not Bosh....not even close actually. Never going to be the pick and roll defender Bosh is. Does not have the B-Ball IQ Bosh has...but more importantly does not have the heart he has. Love is a loner. He is not fitting in. Lebron does not care if he walks.

Kyrie is one of the most exciting young stars in the league.....but he is snake bit. He can't stay on the court.

So take it for what it is. Lebron is amazing. But he can;t do it all. AS was proven yet again in this years finals. Once GS figured things out in quarter 4 of game 3...they never looked back.

Lebron's years in Miami will go down as his greatest time in the NBA as far as performance and winning. His efficiency was off the ****ing charts. We got his prime.

In this years Finals he was willing his team to win...but had to become a chucker. He had no help. He walked into a situation where he has total control and it crumbled on him in the end. In Miami he had rules. It was the Heat culture. He and his posse got tired of it. So good riddance. I loved him when he wore my teams colors. I will always remember it. It was special. But the Heat will win again without him. That much I do know.

If Kyrie can stay on the court.....maybe a different outcome this year. Maybe.

GS is a fantastic team top to bottom. So much depth. That is where the Cav's failed big time. You can't rely on Miller and Jones and Marion? Della? Come on. Love went down.....but when Kyrie went down. Done.

And that is Kyrie's MO. So again...Lebron will reap what he sowed. A PG who can't stay healthy and trading a future star winger for a malcontent big man.

Bosh was a great proven player before coming down here.....how long has Love done it for? Bosh is well respected and was having an all-star season till his blood clot took him down. I take Bosh over Love everyday all day. Bosh will be in the HOF....guarantee you Love never sniffs it.

I think it's unfair to say that the Cavs failed. I mean if youre going to follow the "big three" model and 2 of those three guys are out, you arent going to win. The same result would have happened in Miami.

[JJJones135]

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Then I guess Raptors at 6, Bucks at 7 and Hornets and Celtics competing for 8?

Bucks at 6 because I think Lopez will end up there and they will keep Middleton and build off last years chemistry. Raptors at 7 and honestly I don't see Charlotte being the 8th team. It's the celtics to lose at this point.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Lol Lopez ain't going nowhere man.