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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #481
    Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

    It's actually 18 drives, 9 shots in the restricted area...just FYI

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    • King_B_Mack
      All Star
      • Jan 2009
      • 24450

      #482
      Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by lilteapot
      You will lose the next 3 games of the series.


      LeBron James if you **** this up for me....

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      • JODYE
        JB4MVP
        • May 2012
        • 4834

        #483
        Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
        It's actually 18 drives, 9 shots in the restricted area...just FYI
        It's definitely 18 shots. You may need to look again.

        Game 1:
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        Game 2:
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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #484
          Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

          It's tough for Rose to get those foul calls because when he does drive he just uncontrollably hurls his body into defenders.. He always has, and wiggles his way around to avoid contact. A lot like Westbrook. He never just lets the contact come to him and take it up.


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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #485
            Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by 13
            It's definitely 18 shots. You may need to look again.



            Game 1:

            Spoiler




            Game 2:

            Spoiler

            Yep from your pictures I see 3/9 from the restricted area.....just like what's been reported

            Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau expressed his displeasure after Wednesday's loss with the fact that Derrick Rose failed to get to the free throw line for a third straight game.


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            • JODYE
              JB4MVP
              • May 2012
              • 4834

              #486
              Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

              Lol i see the error of my wording. My bad 24th. 5 for 18 from the paint. Still all those shots coming from the inner FT circle and in. It's too early lolol

              I just don't want to hear he hasn't attacked.
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              • King_B_Mack
                All Star
                • Jan 2009
                • 24450

                #487
                Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                It's tough for Rose to get those foul calls because when he does drive he just uncontrollably hurls his body into defenders.. He always has, and wiggles his way around to avoid contact. A lot like Westbrook. He never just lets the contact come to him and take it up.


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                If James Harden can consistently get the bull**** foul calls he gets every night, then I'm not trying to hear nothing about Derrick Rose "uncontrollably hurling his body into defenders." Reggie Miller and Kevin Harlan just spent about 10 minutes of commentary Wednesday night talking about Harden hurling himself to get calls and he did it while they were talking and got his usual call. I need to hear something better than "he hurls himself into defenders."

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #488
                  Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  Yep from your pictures I see 3/9 from the restricted area.....just like what's been reported

                  Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau expressed his displeasure after Wednesday's loss with the fact that Derrick Rose failed to get to the free throw line for a third straight game.


                  Who's talking about what's been reported? He was talking about OSU saying Derrick hasn't been attacking the paint and only shooting jumpers as why he doesn't have any free throw attempts.

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #489
                    Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                    All good 13, I said drives instead of shots as well, so that may have had something to do with it.



                    He's definitely been getting shots up in the paint....about 10 of those were his patented pull up floaters though...



                    Id say about 2-3 of the remaining shots you could make a case for...

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                    • JODYE
                      JB4MVP
                      • May 2012
                      • 4834

                      #490
                      Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                      Yeah I ****ed up and misworded though lol

                      Still doesn't change the fact that he has indeed been attacking. He's taken a lot of bad jumpers, but he's definitely been attacking the rim too.
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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #491
                        Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        Who's talking about what's been reported? He was talking about OSU saying Derrick hasn't been attacking the paint and only shooting jumpers as why he doesn't have any free throw attempts.

                        Me and 13, the person I was responding to.....

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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #492
                          Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          Me and 13, the person I was responding to.....
                          Yeah, I see it now. I misread the response.

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #493
                            Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                            If James Harden can consistently get the bull**** foul calls he gets every night, then I'm not trying to hear nothing about Derrick Rose "uncontrollably hurling his body into defenders." Reggie Miller and Kevin Harlan just spent about 10 minutes of commentary Wednesday night talking about Harden hurling himself to get calls and he did it while they were talking and got his usual call. I need to hear something better than "he hurls himself into defenders."

                            I agree, I hate the calls Harden gets... But he stays in control and that's why he gets them.


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                            • wwharton
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 26949

                              #494
                              Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                              If James Harden can consistently get the bull**** foul calls he gets every night, then I'm not trying to hear nothing about Derrick Rose "uncontrollably hurling his body into defenders." Reggie Miller and Kevin Harlan just spent about 10 minutes of commentary Wednesday night talking about Harden hurling himself to get calls and he did it while they were talking and got his usual call. I need to hear something better than "he hurls himself into defenders."
                              Harden tries to get fouled... that's the biggest difference. Wade was the same in his younger days. I feel like Rose tries to score, either avoiding contact or initiating it with the intention of scoring.

                              That doesn't mean a foul shouldn't be called when he does get fouled, or that I agree with trying for the foul for the sake of it. But I think that does make a difference in the calls. Wall is the same way... I hope he "grows" in that sense where he knows how to read the defender when driving and get a better idea of when to "create" a foul.

                              Then again, when all the quick guards start doing it, we'll have a thread on how the league needs to change the rules

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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #495
                                Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by wwharton
                                Harden tries to get fouled... that's the biggest difference. Wade was the same in his younger days. I feel like Rose tries to score, either avoiding contact or initiating it with the intention of scoring.



                                That doesn't mean a foul shouldn't be called when he does get fouled, or that I agree with trying for the foul for the sake of it. But I think that does make a difference in the calls. Wall is the same way... I hope he "grows" in that sense where he knows how to read the defender when driving and get a better idea of when to "create" a foul.



                                Then again, when all the quick guards start doing it, we'll have a thread on how the league needs to change the rules

                                Exactly.. I feel like most of the time Rose does get contact it's because someone beat him to his spot. He usually isn't looking for the contact, but rather trying to score.. By that time he's basically jumping into a guy who's vertical, which is very rarely called a foul.

                                He also seems to try and avoid contact and settles for lots of acrobatic finishes and floaters.. Maneuvering his way around swinging arms and extra contact.

                                Not that there is anything wrong with how Rose attacks the rim, it just isn't the type of plays that are going to yield a blown whistle. Westbrook was the the same way, though he's gotten better at letting his body take a contact and while he focuses on finishing through it to get the call. Rose just hasn't ever made that adjustment yet, he'll take the floater or triple clutch finish. Which like I said is fine, just not going to yield many whistles.


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