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  • NYJin2011tm
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 2767

    #181
    Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

    Why does the NBA even still have divisions? It made sense when the top three playoff seeds were the division winners. But since they changed that years ago Divisions are pretty pointless. Only Conferences matter now. They should just have a Eastern Conference and Western Conference.

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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #182
      Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

      Originally posted by NYJin2011tm
      Why does the NBA even still have divisions? It made sense when the top three playoff seeds were the division winners. But since they changed that years ago Divisions are pretty pointless. Only Conferences matter now. They should just have a Eastern Conference and Western Conference.
      I think right now the only role divisions play is for tie-breaker situations.

      Also teams will by default plays teams within their division more frequently then other teams, although teams also play some in conference but not in division teams 4 times rather than 3.. How those are decided IDK. If the NBA ever wanted to shorten the schedule just a bit they could go to playing the opposite conference twice a year, in conference 3 times a year, in division 4 times a year. Would only cut off a few games, but at least it would make sense.

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      • NYJin2011tm
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 2767

        #183
        Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

        Originally posted by ojandpizza
        I think right now the only role divisions play is for tie-breaker situations.

        Also teams will by default plays teams within their division more frequently then other teams, although teams also play some in conference but not in division teams 4 times rather than 3.. How those are decided IDK. If the NBA ever wanted to shorten the schedule just a bit they could go to playing the opposite conference twice a year, in conference 3 times a year, in division 4 times a year. Would only cut off a few games, but at least it would make sense.

        I didn’t think of tiebreakers factoring. But I still think schedule format should change. I know players want less games but of course owners don’t. I think they should do away with divisions and stick to the format they did this year. 72 games… 3 against each conference opp and 2 against other conference. So just have two conferences.

        On 2k since I play the short 30 game(expansion team) (play each team once). I made the playoffs settings as a 31 team conference lol and top 16 teams make playoffs.

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        • King_B_Mack
          All Star
          • Jan 2009
          • 24451

          #184
          Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          I think right now the only role divisions play is for tie-breaker situations.

          Also teams will by default plays teams within their division more frequently then other teams, although teams also play some in conference but not in division teams 4 times rather than 3.. How those are decided IDK. If the NBA ever wanted to shorten the schedule just a bit they could go to playing the opposite conference twice a year, in conference 3 times a year, in division 4 times a year. Would only cut off a few games, but at least it would make sense.
          I'm like 90% sure they already do this. Some in conference non-division opponents may get 4 matchups some years, but that's just for rivalry pushing agendas for the league. I know that much because when LeBron was still in Miami and we didn't completely suck, we started playing the Heat 4 times a year instead of 3 after the 2011 season and we lost to them in the conference finals. That replaced playing the Celtics 4 times a year after the whole 2008 playoff series when the league started scheduling us against them 4 times a year instead of 3. A home/away matchup vs the opposite conference. 2 home and 2 away against division teams. Then non-division got 3 matchups that could either be 2 home and 1 away or vice versa unless there was a rivalry the league wanted more exposure for between conference non-division opponents then you got the 4 games 2 home and 2 away.
          Last edited by King_B_Mack; 06-30-2021, 07:44 PM.

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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #185
            Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
            I'm like 90% sure they already do this. Some in conference non-division opponents may get 4 matchups some years, but that's just for rivalry pushing agendas for the league. I know that much because when LeBron was still in Miami and we didn't completely suck, we started playing the Heat 4 times a year instead of 3 after the 2011 season and we lost to them in the conference finals. That replaced playing the Celtics 4 times a year after the whole 2008 playoff series when the league started scheduling us against them 4 times a year instead of 3.

            Yeah that is what they do, randomly pick other teams to play I guess so they can get to 82 games. Would just make more sense to have the non division but in conference play 3 times for all of them. Likely only cuts it down to 77 or so games but still. It’s weird/random how it’s done now.


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            • donalexinder24
              Just started!
              • Mar 2022
              • 3

              #186
              Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

              I don't have a problem with the present arrangement, and the Spurs missing the playoffs isn't a disaster, but (no offense to them or their supporters) I'm tired of people making it seem like basketball died just because they're not in the playoffs.

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              • cima
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 13478

                #187
                Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

                Almost 7 years later and I will die on this hill that my idea is better than the play-in tournament...

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                • ggsimmonds
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11235

                  #188
                  Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

                  Originally posted by cima
                  Almost 7 years later and I will die on this hill that my idea is better than the play-in tournament...
                  I don't think the two are related. They weren't two possible answers for the same question. Even if conferences were dropped and teams were seeded 1-16, I still think we'd have a play-in tournament

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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #189
                    Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

                    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                    I don't think the two are related. They weren't two possible answers for the same question. Even if conferences were dropped and teams were seeded 1-16, I still think we'd have a play-in tournament

                    They are related in the sense the nba tried to make the postseason more interesting by making a change


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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24451

                      #190
                      Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

                      I’m actually glad this topic got bumped cause this also flies in the face of your original point Cima, because the East is better than the West or at the very least equal currently. As we’ve said before around these parts, I ’s a cyclical thing.


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                      • cima
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 13478

                        #191
                        Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

                        7 years later and it definitely wasn’t cyclical, the WC dominated for roughly 20 years


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                        • ojandpizza
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #192
                          Re: The Eastern Conference is making a great case for ditching East/West Playoffs

                          Originally posted by cima
                          dominated


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                          This single word is what is wrong with your entire argument and why every fan doesn't feel the exact same way. +/- a few games is not "dominated". Having a few 6-8 seeds that are slightly better and might last 6 games instead of 4 in the first round is not "dominated". If there truly was anywhere near that level of a gap people wouldn't be arguing with you. Plenty share your opinion, you're not the only one who wants to see that happen, but the over-exaggerated gap as you explain it and the true gap is a massive difference.

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