in both east and west. those 4 teams should get the most lottery balls. this concept would reward winning and drive more teams to be competitive. it would also help the nba. i'd rather see more boston teams than what's going on with the sixers. your thoughts.....
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It seems to me the assumption is the players need a reason to be competitive or are tanking. I can't recall this ever being a thing.
Why would players tank for lottery picks when they can't guarantee they will be around for that team's future or next rising star?
I have a hard time seeing what this "fixes.""It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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Not a bad idea tbh.Comment
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I think the lottery system is fine the way it is.
It is a weighted lottery and no prospects are a guaranteed sure thing.
The only thing I would change is for the lottery to be live rather than behind closed doors. That'll alleviate any sense of suspicion.Comment
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true. but more than not, the best players in the league are in that top 10. the system, the way it's currently constructed, says u have to bottom out. i just rather see teams such as boston have a chance to be more than just competitive.Last edited by Teddy_Long; 11-24-2015, 08:04 PM.Comment
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Well, last time they did a live lottery,look how that turned out lol. But really,they should do the live lottery,using that same ping pong ball system,directly infront of the representatives that each lottery team sends over.
Some suggestions people talked about for NHL,that I think sounds good:
1.Have lottery order determined by wins AFTER being eliminated from playoff contention. So the worst team has more chances to get wins, and it'd prevent teams from just tanking since you still have to win games to get a good lottery position.
2.Have the top 14 pick order determined by multiple season records. The cumulative total number of wins over the past 2-3 seasons. So if teams do want to tank,they'd have to be really bad over course of multiple seasons. Or if you lose your superstar player in offseason,you don't automatically get a top lottery pick to replace him the following draft due to being bad that 1 year.Last edited by Majingir; 11-24-2015, 11:04 PM.Comment
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If they have, it's obvious that the plan didn't work.#RespectTheCultureComment
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Get rid of the lottery. Too suspicious for the league to strategically help teams get the best players.
There's been suspicions over the lottery for decades.
It might have made sense when the league was struggling but now, the league has a fat tv deal and is more popular. It can thrive without dominant big market teams.
Like someone said, there's no incentive for players or even the coach to tank. Players could lose their jobs if they suck. Same thing with the coaches. It's highly doubtful that Brett Brown cares more bout getting the top pick for the next draft than getting a win now.Comment
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Get rid of the lottery with what as an alternative? Worst team gets first pick?
Wouldn't that make tanking worse?
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Lottery doesn't prevent some teams from trying to tank.
So what difference would it make, except there would be a whole lot more transparency.
Players wouldn't try to tank, because they're on a ****ty team to begin with so they're fighting for their jobs, if not on the bad team, as an audition for other teams.
The GM could cut any good player or deactivate him somehow to make the team tank more.
Of course, blatantly tanking has to hurt ticket sales. I don't know how the 76ers get away with being at the bottom for 2-3 years in a row without paying for it in terms of revenues. Lets say they get the top pick and Ben Simmons or whomever they pick turns out to have as much impact on the league as any player since LBJ or KD. So the team turns around and home games sell out.
Does that make up for the years of tanking?
In any event, whether the lottery remains or not, teams have the same incentives to tank.Comment
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my whole point is that a team such as boston will just be a solid team but won't move much in the east unless they start losing bad. case in point, the golden st warriors. 3 players in their starting unit are top ten to top 12 lottery selections.
curry 1st round, 7 selection
thompson 1st round, 11 selection
barnes 1st round, 7 selection
no one is signing with boston unless it's the lottery. once a team can hit on a top 10 player in the lottery such as boston, then it could eventually lead to other players coming there. however, it won't happen without the team being bad 1st.Last edited by Teddy_Long; 11-27-2015, 04:58 PM.Comment
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Boston has had lottery picks though, most of those bottom of the playoff seeded teams have lottery picks.
Not every team just lucks out and has their lottery picks wind up being Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. Also it doesn't take 1-2 years for it just just magically work. Steph was what, 27 years old I think, last year. Most the guys getting drafted that high are 19-21.
Rewarding a 7th seeded team with a high pick who's 19 years old doesn't solve much. He's going to ride their bench most likely. Then when he finally develops they've got to decide to pay him or continue to pay the guys who actually got them to the playoffs. And also hope none of them leave in the meantime.
The teams that finishes at the bottom need those picks more so than playoff teams do. And those picks give them much more immediate help than they do playoff squads.. Just look at Otto Porter for example. Justice Winslow from last year. They haven't been immediate help that get their teams over the humps they wouldn't have gotten over without them. Porzingis would be riding the bench on a deep playoff team. But in NY he's growing, might even be ROY front runner.
Rewarding those bottom playoff teams doesn't really help the youngsters, and the benefit to the team drafting them is likely minimal at first. I just don't see a reason to change the system just because we have 1 team that is incompetent to building a winner.
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