What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

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  • richard2001
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    • Dec 2015
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    #16
    Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
    For the record, I think the OP is smoking some good **** with this "more polished Westbrook" thing. The only things I'd say Rose would/was better at Westbrook at would be finishing around the rim and I still think he was a better playmaker. Westbrook is a much better shooter and better defender


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    Not westbrook now, but offensively, 22 year old d rose was more polished than 22 year old westbrook. Remember russ used to jack up terrible shots all the time.

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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #17
      Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

      Originally posted by richard2001
      Not westbrook now, but offensively, 22 year old d rose was more polished than 22 year old westbrook. Remember russ used to jack up terrible shots all the time.

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      Well then this makes sense. I don't think any of us knew this was what you meant when you said it.

      That was basically the difference between the two of them at 22. Rose was under more control, he made better decisions, especially with his shot selection.


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      • Vni
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2011
        • 14833

        #18
        Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

        At the time yeah Rose was a far more polished player than WB was, no doubt about that.

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        • wwharton
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          • Aug 2002
          • 26949

          #19
          Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

          Originally posted by richard2001
          Not westbrook now, but offensively, 22 year old d rose was more polished than 22 year old westbrook. Remember russ used to jack up terrible shots all the time.

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          Still don't get your point. Everyone knows Rose was a more polished Westbrook when they were both young. Rose won MVP while Rus was getting blamed for KD not winning a ring. This thought was obvious back then, and at least relevant.

          It sounds like you're insinuating that if Rose stayed healthy he'd be better than RWB right now just because he was a more polished version of RWB years ago. That makes absolutely no sense. We have no idea how Rose would've developed, and considering how much better RWB has become, even less of an idea if Rose's development would've kept up.

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          • richard2001
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            • Dec 2015
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            #20
            Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

            Originally posted by wwharton
            Still don't get your point. Everyone knows Rose was a more polished Westbrook when they were both young. Rose won MVP while Rus was getting blamed for KD not winning a ring. This thought was obvious back then, and at least relevant.

            It sounds like you're insinuating that if Rose stayed healthy he'd be better than RWB right now just because he was a more polished version of RWB years ago. That makes absolutely no sense. We have no idea how Rose would've developed, and considering how much better RWB has become, even less of an idea if Rose's development would've kept up.
            I said what if. It's possible Rose would be on the same level as Russ, but we'll never know.

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            • King_B_Mack
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              • Jan 2009
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              #21
              Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

              Even if comparing the two at the time saying Derrick was more polished seems strong to me. Russ has always been a better jump shooter and defender. Rose was certainly the smarter player, but Russ isn't a true point guard which could attribute to some of his issues there at the time.


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              • wwharton
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                • Aug 2002
                • 26949

                #22
                Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                Originally posted by richard2001
                I said what if. It's possible Rose would be on the same level as Russ, but we'll never know.

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                Then it's kind of a pointless thread if you were just making a statement (that was discussed years ago).

                "If Rose didn't get hurt he may be as good as Westbrook."

                "Yup."

                lol

                The discussion of how crazy it is to compare 22 yo Rose to 27 yo Rus has been decent so we can leave it open.

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                • richard2001
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                  • Dec 2015
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                  #23
                  Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                  Originally posted by wwharton
                  Then it's kind of a pointless thread if you were just making a statement (that was discussed years ago).

                  "If Rose didn't get hurt he may be as good as Westbrook."

                  "Yup."

                  lol

                  The discussion of how crazy it is to compare 22 yo Rose to 27 yo Rus has been decent so we can leave it open.
                  I never compared 22 year old rose to westbrook today

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                  • Sportsbuck
                    The Predator
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 4326

                    #24
                    Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                    Secondly we know what this is about with you whether it's being salty cause it wasn't LeBron or salt because it wasn't Dwight, you're looking like a Nabisco product right now
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                    • kaletore11
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                      • Sep 2013
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                      #25
                      Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                      All I can say is that Rose in his prime was the most exciting player I've seen in the last 10 years. Of course it's completely subjective, but I absolutely loved watching him play and I'm not a Bulls fan at all.
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                      • wwharton
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26949

                        #26
                        Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                        Originally posted by richard2001
                        I never compared 22 year old rose to westbrook today

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                        Yet that is what's kept this thread worth staying open.

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                        • Moses Shuttlesworth
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                          • Aug 2006
                          • 9435

                          #27
                          Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                          I remember Rose's MVP season he was the talk of the town. People weren't mentioning Russ like they were Rose, and everyone I knew was like "dude Derrick Rose is ridiculous..." and as his game evolved, so too did Russ's - there's no way to know what he would have added to his game but we can only speculate his shooting and D would have improved.

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                          • richard2001
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                            • Dec 2015
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                            #28
                            Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                            Originally posted by Moses Shuttlesworth
                            I remember Rose's MVP season he was the talk of the town. People weren't mentioning Russ like they were Rose, and everyone I knew was like "dude Derrick Rose is ridiculous..." and as his game evolved, so too did Russ's - there's no way to know what he would have added to his game but we can only speculate his shooting and D would have improved.
                            It sucks that we don't get to see Rose v Westbrook while they're both in their primes.

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                            • jgthedon
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                              • Feb 2016
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                              #29
                              Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                              Rose has looked like his old-self as of late. The way he's driven to the basket has reminded me of his prime.

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                              • King_B_Mack
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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24452

                                #30
                                Re: What if Derrick Rose stayed healthy?

                                Originally posted by jgthedon
                                Rose has looked like his old-self as of late. The way he's driven to the basket has reminded me of his prime.

                                How can it remind you of something we haven't seen yet? That wasn't Rose's prime. He'd just now be entering his prime right now.


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