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  • ProfessaPackMan
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    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #151
    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

    Excellent write up from Zack Lowe regarding Brooks and the Wizards.

    Now that the Wizards have a new coach, just what kind of team will they be -- and what can the Thunder show us to answer that question?


    Pretty much brings up everything that has been discussed good and bad about him, while going into more detail.
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    • Nevertheles109
      Pro
      • Nov 2012
      • 643

      #152
      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
      Couldn't you say that playcalling and play designing are two different things?

      Only reason I ask because it seems like your issue is moreso with his play designing when you said "one dimensional pick and roll concepts and ISO with no movement was terrible".

      Yes, but they also go hand and hand with the way Brooks allowed the offense to be ran.

      Both are ball dominant and no, they are not Steph or Klay when it comes to off ball action. But would you agree if they had a coach like Pop we would see much more off-ball action from the role players?

      I feel like Brooks gave the opposing team the ability to hone in on his offensive scheme overnight and it stunted the team's effectiveness as a whole.

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #153
        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by Nevertheles109
        Yes, but they also go hand and hand with the way Brooks allowed the offense to be ran.



        Both are ball dominant and no, they are not Steph or Klay when it comes to off ball action. But would you agree if they had a coach like Pop we would see much more off-ball action from the role players?



        I feel like Brooks gave the opposing team the ability to hone in on his offensive scheme overnight and it stunted the team's effectiveness as a whole.

        The problem is there is no "coach like Pop".. Every time people want to bash a coach, or bash a coach hiring they act as if it's just easy to find a better replacement, assuming there even is one.

        I'm not trying to say that Brooks is the perfect coach, but when was OKC or now WAS going to lure Pop from San Antonio? Just being realistic about it, there aren't many coaches that you couldn't pick out just as many flaws from as you can Brooks.. A small handful, and they aren't leaving.


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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #154
          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by Nevertheles109
          Yes, but they also go hand and hand with the way Brooks allowed the offense to be ran.

          Both are ball dominant and no, they are not Steph or Klay when it comes to off ball action. But would you agree if they had a coach like Pop we would see much more off-ball action from the role players?

          I feel like Brooks gave the opposing team the ability to hone in on his offensive scheme overnight and it stunted the team's effectiveness as a whole.
          Not necessarily, especially considering that they're still doing the same exact thing with Donovan that they were under Brooks. IIRC, Donovan was lauded heavily for how his Offenses placed a heavy emphasis on off ball movement.

          Your last point, I don't disagree with it but I don't agree with it though because when Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka were all healthy, they were still one of, if not the best Offense in the league and pretty much a lock to get to the WCF every year. All while playing that same style. Check out the link I posted earlier since it does bring up your point about it's effectiveness.
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          • Nevertheles109
            Pro
            • Nov 2012
            • 643

            #155
            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by ojandpizza
            The problem is there is no "coach like Pop".. Every time people want to bash a coach, or bash a coach hiring they act as if it's just easy to find a better replacement, assuming there even is one.

            I'm not trying to say that Brooks is the perfect coach, but when was OKC or now WAS going to lure Pop from San Antonio? Just being realistic about it, there aren't many coaches that you couldn't pick out just as many flaws from as you can Brooks.. A small handful, and they aren't leaving.


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            OOO yeah, I fully understand Pop is the holy grail. It was more or less a rhetorical question and an example that a good coach can utilize players in different ways.

            I can agree that there aren't many great options out there as well. I just hope he realizes Bradley Beal is not that type of player and he can succeed with off-ball action schemes. That's all.

            So, I was thinking last night. Who would be good coach for the Lakers young core? And do we have a chance in hell to get Boogie Cousins since SAC has pissed in his Cheerios?

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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #156
              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

              They might as well make Cousins the HC and Rondo his Assistant HC.
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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #157
                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                What y'all think about Whiteside going to Dallas in the offseason? Think they might go after him after DeAndre Jordan's fiasco last year?
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                • Fresh Tendrils
                  Strike Hard and Fade Away
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 36131

                  #158
                  re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                  I'd rather have him in DC. We need somebody to clean the boards because Gortat and Nene get pushed around too much.



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                  • Vni
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 14833

                    #159
                    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                    I'am just hoping the lakers get him.

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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #160
                      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by Vni
                      I'am just hoping the lakers get him.


                      Negative. We locking that up this offseason. You can have Pau back though

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                      • Vni
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 14833

                        #161
                        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                        I imagine Russell and whiteside working the p'n'r while KD is chilling on the wing.

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                        • wwharton
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26949

                          #162
                          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          You legit don't know or you don't know because you "don't see everything that goes on outside of what's not being reported with it so I can't really give an opinion"? Legit question BTW.
                          Good question (and bad wording by me). I should've said "I don't think he's better or worse." I think it's true, we don't really "know" but I was giving an opinion.

                          I'm still cautiously optimistic. I don't like how he handled all the pieces on THAT team but that doesn't mean that's how he'd approach every situation. There are no Durants or Westbrooks on the Wizards so he'll have to take a different approach. I guess it's one we haven't seen before so hard to judge.

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          Excellent write up from Zack Lowe regarding Brooks and the Wizards.

                          Now that the Wizards have a new coach, just what kind of team will they be -- and what can the Thunder show us to answer that question?


                          Pretty much brings up everything that has been discussed good and bad about him, while going into more detail.
                          If I didn't know any better I'd think someone from this forum wrote that, lol.

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                          • Themayorofawsometown
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                            • Sep 2015
                            • 1101

                            #163
                            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                            Im still hoping whiteside comes back to the heat by some miracle

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                            • Checmate101
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                              • Mar 2006
                              • 9947

                              #164
                              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                              Lets go..

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                              • JazzMan
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                                • Feb 2012
                                • 13547

                                #165
                                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                I think Brooks will do well in Washington without all of the pressure he had in OKC. Hope he does alright.

                                I think McHale would have been a superior hire though.
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