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  • Boltman
    L.A. to S.D. to HI
    • Mar 2004
    • 18283

    #4351
    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by 23
    Pat Riley



    That letter was awkward.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #4352
      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by DIESEL
      Doesn't make much sense to not match given the circumstances. We obviously have an open spot at SG, he counts virtually nothing against the cap for us the next 2 seasons, and we can trade him at any time and he will only count 12.5 mil against any other teams cap.

      I say keep him, see what he can do, trade him if it doesn't work out.

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      He'll count $12.5 Mil against the cap for us in all 4 years.

      He'll count whatever he's making each year against the cap. Better off just continuing to develop Richardson's game while he's on a bargain now. You can always find a Tyler Johnson, especially in that system, which tends to get the most out of PGs in recent memory.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #4353
        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by Hassan Darkside
        How Riley handled the entire Wade situation is exactly why I can't fault guys like KD for taking their destinies into their own hands. Wade basically made every sacrifice a star player could make in order to win. He took a paycut to bring two other stars to town (where he was paid the least of the three), sacrificed his ego, and sacrificed his status to help get the franchise two more rings, only to be hardballed two years in a row at the end of his contract. It'll be hard to see him in another uniform but good for him, because loyalty is supposed to be a two-way street.
        But does he meet the Tier 1 HOF qualifications?
        #RespectTheCulture

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #4354
          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

          Not too bad for what was predicted to be a boring off season.

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          • wrestlinggod1
            MVP
            • Jan 2008
            • 2490

            #4355
            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
            We root for teams, not players. Which in turn causes most people to side with employer over employee, despite the fact that most of us are employees in our day to day. It's the greatest con in sports.
            The thing is, I feel like D Wade IS the Heat. He's the reason I personally got into basketball back in 2006. I have faint memories of Kobe and Shaq, MJ in Washington. But I didn't start consistently watching basketball until 2006, our first championship season. So I've only really watched Miami Heat basketball with him on the team.
            My fear is that in this day and age, Riley's way of doing things is too old school. Challenging players to be "the man" and to be tough seems like a thing of the past. And from what I'm hearing, the way he handled this situation was absolutely disgusting. To not even call Wade is absurd to me. Regardless of what his plans are for the franchise, I feel like what happened here completely went against the "family" and "loyalty" he preaches. How is a FA going to want to come here if the face of the franchise was treated this way?
            #HeatNation
            #HeatLifer

            Go MIAMI Teams!!

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            • DieHardYankee26
              BING BONG
              • Feb 2008
              • 10178

              #4356
              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by ehh
              I wasn't reading much news/rumors/info last night - is that true about him not calling Wade? If so, that's pretty damn obvious that Riles didn't want Wade back.

              Now im seeing LeBatard say that may have been because D Wade told them to speak only through his agents, that he didn't want to be involved. 2 sides of the same story, probably both true. Im surprised that could get in the way though. We all know the Rat's favorite is the fax machine anyway.
              Originally posted by G Perico
              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #4357
                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                We root for teams, not players. Which in turn causes most people to side with employer over employee, despite the fact that most of us are employees in our day to day. It's the greatest con in sports.
                We can't root for both?

                I'm sure Bulls Fans wanted Rose to get his money back in the day but I'm sure they were also ready for management to move on him.
                #RespectTheCulture

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                • Boltman
                  L.A. to S.D. to HI
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 18283

                  #4358
                  re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  We can't root for both?

                  I'm sure Bulls Fans wanted Rose to get his money back in the day but I'm sure they were also ready for management to move on him.
                  I think we can and do root for both, he was just making an argument for that viewpoint and it makes sense. But I def feel ya on the rooting for both, I'm sure many people do.

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                  • dsallupinyaarea
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2764

                    #4359
                    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    We can't root for both?

                    I'm sure Bulls Fans wanted Rose to get his money back in the day but I'm sure they were also ready for management to move on him.

                    Of course we can. There's a reason we're here and not on some crazy fan page though. This forum does not represent the majority of sports fans.
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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #4360
                      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                      I guess im just trying to put myself in the shoes of a Heat fan, but I can't because I hate Pat so much.

                      If a guy brings us 3 chips in 12 years, taking pay cuts and bringing stars in, etc. I as a fan feel I can watch the team suffer for 2 years while he gets his money. I feel like I would owe him that. It's hard for me to imagine just being ok with him being let go, and I guess Lakers fans are the best to ask.

                      To me, seeing these guys in another uniform is more painful than the team being bad for 2 years. Talk about legacy? This is the legacy of your franchise wearing a Bulls jersey over a few million dollars. And this guy (Pat) was preaching loyalty and family? Ridiculous.
                      Originally posted by G Perico
                      If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                      I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                      In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                      The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #4361
                        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #4362
                          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                          I look at it like this: Is it possible to hate the contract the Lakers gave to Kobe but then also be mad at Riley for not giving him that same contract(minus the extra year)basically?
                          #RespectTheCulture

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                          • dsallupinyaarea
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2764

                            #4363
                            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                            It's also just a terrible business decision. Heat fans half a$$ showed up for the Heatles years, you think they're about to spend Saturday night in Miami watching Goran Dragic? Good luck with that.




                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            I look at it like this: Is it possible to hate the contract the Lakers gave to Kobe but then also be mad at Riley for not giving him that same contract(minus the extra year)basically?

                            I never took issue with the Kobe deal. It was legacy pay from a team that was nowhere near contention but still needed to put butts in the seats. Anyone who thought it was a pure basketball decision was naïve.


                            but to your point, it would be hypocritical to hate one and not the other.
                            Last edited by dsallupinyaarea; 07-07-2016, 09:44 AM.
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                            • areobee401
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 16771

                              #4364
                              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                              I look at it like this: Is it possible to hate the contract the Lakers gave to Kobe but then also be mad at Riley for not giving him that same contract(minus the extra year)basically?
                              I wanted Riley to give Wade similar deal to Kobe. Heat now have cap space to menuver in free agency and the trade market. Riley has show an ability to reconstruct a winner and that worries me.
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                              • Vni
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 14833

                                #4365
                                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                I look at it like this: Is it possible to hate the contract the Lakers gave to Kobe but then also be mad at Riley for not giving him that same contract(minus the extra year)basically?
                                Riley wanted no part of Wade farewell tour and I can't blame him.

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