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  • Vni
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2011
    • 14833

    #466
    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by redsox4evur
    I'm hearing from my sources the Lakers are going to trade the pick for Boogie Cousins and bring in another Big FA. And hope to sign Goatbrook next offseason.
    Yeah well we've been hearing that for a while now.

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    • Vni
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2011
      • 14833

      #467
      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by Teddy_Long
      vni, i hope la get ingram and say no to signing any big names. develop the young guys.
      That would be the best way to do it. It's a good time to be rebuilding. Let the Warriors have their run. I'am not sure the lakers can wait though.

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      • Teddy_Long
        MVP
        • Jul 2003
        • 2458

        #468
        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by redsox4evur
        I'm hearing from my sources the Lakers are going to trade the pick for Boogie Cousins and bring in another Big FA. And hope to sign Goatbrook next offseason.
        la would be stupid to trade and get that guy, numbers and no wins.

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        • vtcha
          MVP
          • Nov 2009
          • 2180

          #469
          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

          If I'm Philly, I'm taking Ingram over Simmons.

          Simmons is still a big question mark over his shooting and Ingram is better defensively.

          I also think Ingram's floor spacing is a much better fit for Philly. I mean sure Simmons could eventually be the better player, but right now I envision him as a bigger version of Evan Turner.

          A front-court lineup of Simmons, Noel, and Okafor does not look to great on paper.

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          • Teddy_Long
            MVP
            • Jul 2003
            • 2458

            #470
            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by Vni
            That would be the best way to do it. It's a good time to be rebuilding. Let the Warriors have their run. I'am not sure the lakers can wait though.
            no team wins through signing players, even the heat had wade through the lottery. that's how they got lebron. say no to being the nets. lol

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            • JazzMan
              SOLDIER, First Class...
              • Feb 2012
              • 13547

              #471
              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by Teddy_Long
              la would be stupid to trade and get that guy, numbers and no wins.
              What help has he had though? I agree, LA would be stupid to trade for him, being that they don't have anybody to really complement him yet, but he's a legitimate Top 10 player.
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              • redsox4evur
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2013
                • 18169

                #472
                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by vtcha
                If I'm Philly, I'm taking Ingram over Simmons.

                Simmons is still a big question mark over his shooting and Ingram is better defensively.

                I also think Ingram's floor spacing is a much better fit for Philly. I mean sure Simmons could eventually be the better player, but right now I envision him as a bigger version of Evan Turner.

                A front-court lineup of Simmons, Noel, and Okafor does not look to great on paper.
                Funny thing about Evan Turner and these top players. Ingram actually models his game after Turner, lol.
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                • Teddy_Long
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 2458

                  #473
                  re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by JazzMan
                  What help has he had though? I agree, LA would be stupid to trade for him, being that they don't have anybody to really complement him yet, but he's a legitimate Top 10 player.
                  dude has no winning intangibles at all. i can't remember any dominant big man with his w/l percentage. dominant big men win 50 games with almost anyone playing beside them. this dude is numbers and drama.

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                  • JazzMan
                    SOLDIER, First Class...
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 13547

                    #474
                    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by Teddy_Long
                    dude has no winning intangibles at all. i can't remember any dominant big man with his w/l percentage. dominant big men win 50 games with almost anyone playing beside them. this dude is numbers and drama.
                    I mean, when he's been playing for a garbage organization his entire career, what do you expect? You can't fire the guy's head coach (who he LOVED), after a hot start slowed down to a sub-
                    500 start after Boogie got hurt, and then hire a guy who clearly wanted him out of town and didn't know how to use him.

                    His best teammate in his career has been Rudy Gay, who is notorious for leaving teams who immediately become successful after he leaves.

                    Put Boogie in Boston, or in San Antonio, or in Denver even with Mike Malone, and he'll thrive. He needs the right coach, and he needs the right support system.

                    Those dominant big men that you say win 50 games had some talent beside them. Boogie has Rudy Gay and an over-the-hill Rajon Rondo.
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                    • Teddy_Long
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2458

                      #475
                      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by JazzMan
                      I mean, when he's been playing for a garbage organization his entire career, what do you expect? You can't fire the guy's head coach (who he LOVED), after a hot start slowed down to a sub-
                      500 start after Boogie got hurt, and then hire a guy who clearly wanted him out of town and didn't know how to use him.

                      His best teammate in his career has been Rudy Gay, who is notorious for leaving teams who immediately become successful after he leaves.

                      Put Boogie in Boston, or in San Antonio, or in Denver even with Mike Malone, and he'll thrive. He needs the right coach, and he needs the right support system.

                      Those dominant big men that you say win 50 games had some talent beside them. Boogie has Rudy Gay and an over-the-hill Rajon Rondo.
                      i agree with your argument but do u want boogie on your jazz over ingram or simmons? lol

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                      • redsox4evur
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 18169

                        #476
                        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by Teddy_Long
                        i agree with your argument but do u want boogie on your jazz over ingram or simmons? lol
                        I would gladly take Boogie over Ingram or Simmons on the Celtics.
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                        • JazzMan
                          SOLDIER, First Class...
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 13547

                          #477
                          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by Teddy_Long
                          i agree with your argument but do u want boogie on your jazz over ingram or simmons? lol
                          Is that a serious question? Of course. Ingram and Simmons are no guaranteed stars. They're not LeBron, or Anthony Davis, or Tim Duncan. Boogie meanwhile is arguably the top center in the league and an incredible offensive talent, while also being possibly his team's best interior defender. He's also what, like 25? He's a legitimate top 10 player in the league and still has so much room to improve.

                          I'm not even a Boogie fan, to be honest, but he seems to be underrated nowadays due to his franchise's incompetence.
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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #478
                            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by vtcha
                            If I'm Philly, I'm taking Ingram over Simmons.



                            Simmons is still a big question mark over his shooting and Ingram is better defensively.



                            I also think Ingram's floor spacing is a much better fit for Philly. I mean sure Simmons could eventually be the better player, but right now I envision him as a bigger version of Evan Turner.



                            A front-court lineup of Simmons, Noel, and Okafor does not look to great on paper.


                            Philly desperately needs scoring.. I wouldn't take Simmons.. Hell I might even trade back a few spots and get a couple quality starters and draft Buddy Hield.

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                            • redsox4evur
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 18169

                              #479
                              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by JazzMan
                              Is that a serious question? Of course. Ingram and Simmons are no guaranteed stars. They're not LeBron, or Anthony Davis, or Tim Duncan. Boogie meanwhile is arguably the top center in the league and an incredible offensive talent, while also being possibly his team's best interior defender. He's also what, like 25? He's a legitimate top 10 player in the league and still has so much room to improve.

                              I'm not even a Boogie fan, to be honest, but he seems to be underrated nowadays due to his franchise's incompetence.
                              He's 25 turning 26 before the season starts.
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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #480
                                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by JazzMan
                                Is that a serious question? Of course. Ingram and Simmons are no guaranteed stars. They're not LeBron, or Anthony Davis, or Tim Duncan. Boogie meanwhile is arguably the top center in the league and an incredible offensive talent, while also being possibly his team's best interior defender. He's also what, like 25? He's a legitimate top 10 player in the league and still has so much room to improve.

                                I'm not even a Boogie fan, to be honest, but he seems to be underrated nowadays due to his franchise's incompetence.


                                If Boogie ever gets mentally focused to where he's giving his best effort consistently he's probably a top 5-8 player in the league.. It's a no brainier to take him IMO.

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