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  • Vni
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2011
    • 14810

    #421
    Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

    Looks like Utah gonna take this one. Gobert doing his thing.

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    • DieHardYankee26
      BING BONG
      • Feb 2008
      • 10178

      #422
      Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

      Gobert is not a Porzingis fan.
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      • Vni
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2011
        • 14810

        #423
        Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by fluent2332
        Yeah, it's crazy. But if teams keep doing it they are going to force the NBA's hand on it, I think. Makes no sense to have it the current way if players will just be rested this early in the season.
        I don't know I don't think I've ever heard of a team resting 3 of his stars 5 games into the season. Back to back or not It's mind boggling.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #424
          11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

          We held Lopez out in the 3rd game of the season. Played at home on a Friday night against the Pacers and then held him out the next night when we traveled to Milwaukee, which was the 4th game of the season.

          It shouldn't matter who you are or if you're a playoff team or not because every situation isn't the same and ya'll shouldn't treat them like they are. The Sixers have Embiid and Okafor on a minutes restriction and rightfully so. Should they be playing 35+ mins every night just because they're young or not on a playoff team?

          As for Wall, you gotta remember he had surgery on BOTH of his Knees and was out the entire offseason and early on in camp so it makes sense to hold him out early on. This ain't 2K, lol.

          Originally posted by Vni
          Extending the season and eliminating back to backs make a lot of sense. The schedule is too intense as it is.

          But 5 or 6 games in, throwing games because rest ? Really ?
          They've already reduced the number of B2Bs over the years when players first started griping about it after the Lockout.
          Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 11-06-2016, 02:36 PM.
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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #425
            11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

            ............
            Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 11-06-2016, 02:34 PM. Reason: Double post
            #RespectTheCulture

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            • JazzMan
              SOLDIER, First Class...
              • Feb 2012
              • 13545

              #426
              Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

              Gobert with that dunk and block on Porzingis in back-to-back possessions was exactly what I needed to see before going to work this afternoon.

              Hayward with 28 points in his season debut. Hill and Hood still did their thing. This offense is going to be humming once Hayward finds his shot again.

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              • Vni
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2011
                • 14810

                #427
                Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                We held Lopez out in the 3rd game of the season. Played at home on a Friday night against the Pacers and then held him out the next night when we traveled to Milwaukee, which was the 4th game of the season.

                It shouldn't matter who you are or if you're a playoff team or not because every situation isn't the same and ya'll shouldn't treat them like they are. The Sixers have Embiid and Okafor on a minutes restriction and rightfully so. Should they be playing 35+ mins every night just because they're young or not on a playoff team?

                As for Wall, you gotta remember he had surgery on BOTH of his Knees and was out the entire offseason and early on in camp so it makes sense to hold him out early on. This ain't 2K, lol.



                They've already reduced the number of B2Bs over the years when players first started griping about it after the Lockout.
                Minutes restriction is something I totally understand though. Memphis basically threw a game away 5 games in. Coudn't they've had Gasol, Conley and Parsons play 25 minutes instead ? Maybe they'd have had a shot to win the game. (not sure if my gramar is right)

                Conley got Lebron money and he's sitting games 2 weeks in. Must be nice.
                Last edited by Vni; 11-06-2016, 02:52 PM.

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                • fluent2332
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1728

                  #428
                  Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Vni
                  I don't know I don't think I've ever heard of a team resting 3 of his stars 5 games into the season. Back to back or not It's mind boggling.
                  It is, but it's probably going to happen more often and more teams will start doing it.

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                  • Vni
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 14810

                    #429
                    Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                    Pop was fined $250K for resting Timmy, Ginobily, Parker and Green at the end of a 6 games road trip but I guess they only fined him because it was the only game in Miami and it was supposed to be a big game and not because they don't allow resting players for no reason ? It was early in the season too, just not this early.

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                    • Vni
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 14810

                      #430
                      Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by fluent2332
                      It is, but it's probably going to happen more often and more teams will start doing it.
                      If so yeah extending the season makes a lot of sense. The off season is stupidly long too and might even be counter productive so might aswell.

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                      • fluent2332
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 1728

                        #431
                        Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                        They need to give Pop his money back for that one. That was absolutely absurd.

                        All the teams are trying to get some form of advantage so they are taking advantage of the rules that are in place. There is no rule that says you can't rest players, so they are going to have to tweak something in that equation to fix it (if more teams start doing it, which they probably will since the NBA is a copycat league and analytics will show that players perform better after rest, etc. etc.)

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47890

                          #432
                          Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Vni
                          Extending the season and eliminating back to backs make a lot of sense. The schedule is too intense as it is.

                          But 5 or 6 games in, throwing games because rest ? Really ?
                          The worst back to back is playing in 2 diff cities in 2 nights, and those 2 teams happen to be the Cavs and Warriors. At least NBA won't ever do that.........lol j/k, Raptors do that right before going on a long western road trip in a week or so from now.

                          NBA and NHL need to do the old school hockey scheduling. You still have back to backs, but you face the same team both times. EX, let's say tonight is Knicks-Nets from NY. Tomorrow will then be Knicks-Nets from Brooklyn. So back to backs still happen, but at least you play a team in same situation as you. It's not perfect, but way better than current system in both leagues.

                          Not to mention, it builds rivalries too. Whatever happened the night before, still fresh in everyone's mind, so gm2 of back to back could almost pick up where gm1 left off. Better than just having stuff happen early November, then the next meeting in January or something doesn't have same feel to it.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #433
                            Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                            The NBA fined Pop for an absurd amount of money because he was protecting his team. It was wrong of them then and is wrong today.

                            Get used to seeing analytical teams resting players. It's been accepted now that players don't get true rest by playing limited minutes, especially on back to backs or afternoon games.
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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #434
                              Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Majingir
                              The worst back to back is playing in 2 diff cities in 2 nights, and those 2 teams happen to be the Cavs and Warriors. At least NBA won't ever do that.........lol j/k, Raptors do that right before going on a long western road trip in a week or so from now.

                              NBA and NHL need to do the old school hockey scheduling. You still have back to backs, but you face the same team both times. EX, let's say tonight is Knicks-Nets from NY. Tomorrow will then be Knicks-Nets from Brooklyn. So back to backs still happen, but at least you play a team in same situation as you. It's not perfect, but way better than current system in both leagues.

                              Not to mention, it builds rivalries too. Whatever happened the night before, still fresh in everyone's mind, so gm2 of back to back could almost pick up where gm1 left off. Better than just having stuff happen early November, then the next meeting in January or something doesn't have same feel to it.
                              That is horrible idea. In that case, you might as well have teams play ALL of the Western Conference teams on the road when they only go out west as opposed to taking multiple trips.

                              And you're not going to make people care any more about rivalries, especially in the regular season. You want them to matter more, meet in the playoffs. That's what happened with Raptors-Nets when we became public enemy #1.


                              Originally posted by Vni
                              Minutes restriction is something I totally understand though. Memphis basically threw a game away 5 games in. Coudn't they've had Gasol, Conley and Parsons play 25 minutes instead ? Maybe they'd have had a shot to win the game. (not sure if my gramar is right)

                              Conley got Lebron money and he's sitting games 2 weeks in. Must be nice.
                              Parsons is coming back tonight. Not sure what money has to do with it either.

                              And I still agree with what Pop did and would agree with any coach that does it. He only got fined because it was a National TV game and that he didn't give an earlier advanced notice. I'll be sure to look for y'all outrage if Lopez gets held out of another meaningless November game. I'll be looking to see if y'all count his money too, lol.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • Majingir
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 47890

                                #435
                                Re: 11/1 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                That is horrible idea. In that case, you might as well have teams play ALL of the Western Conference teams on the road when they only go out west as opposed to taking multiple trips.

                                And you're not going to make people care any more about rivalries, especially in the regular season. You want them to matter more, meet in the playoffs. That's what happened with Raptors-Nets when we became public enemy #1.




                                Parsons is coming back tonight. Not sure what money has to do with it either.

                                And I still agree with what Pop did and would agree with any coach that does it. He only got fined because it was a National TV game and that he didn't give an earlier advanced notice. I'll be sure to look for y'all outrage if Lopez gets held out of another meaningless November game. I'll be looking to see if y'all count his money too, lol.
                                If it's back to back,home & home, it won't be East vs West games. Which is why I used Nets-Knicks as an example.

                                Let's say each team has 14 back to backs, why not just have one set against each of the 14 teams in your own conference?

                                Road trip wise, there's only need for 3 of them. Each being 5 game road trips spaced out throughout the season. 5 games in 9 days, that's the length of each trip.

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