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  • redsox4evur
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    • Jul 2013
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    #136
    Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Vni
    I think the more he does it the the more it seems unintentional. It's hard to believe he'd be that dumb or that he could think that he could get away with it. Although it's still tough to make sense of such a high kick in the air like that.

    Exactly. I posted a video in the Finals thread of him shooting like 20 times and kicking a dude. He's not going into a game and saying let me Crane Kick some dude.


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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #137
      Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Vni
      I think the more he does it the the more it seems unintentional. It's hard to believe he'd be that dumb or that he could think that he could get away with it. Although it's still tough to make sense of such a high kick in the air like that.
      Didn't guys like Rodman and Ben Wallace used to do that **** back in the day or am I tripping?

      This type of thing happens more than we think it does in the league. May not happen with every single team, but it's not just limited to one team or one person like we think.
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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #138
        Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        We're not brushing it off as saying that's what he does.

        People here are saying they don't think he's going into a game with the thought process of "Hmmm, let's see who I can kick in the face"(which is basically what "Intentional" means") like teapot is saying. People are too quick to paint that man as the NBA version of Vontaze Burfict and even I think his rep is overblown by folks.
        Lol, theres premeditated and intentional..

        I don't think MWP went into that game a couple years back saying, 'I'm going to elbow James Harden in the head after an inbound' ...but I think we can all agree that was intentional.

        but to your point, I didn't say any one here was brushing it off- much like no one here said he was Burfict...its just pretty much calling a spade a spade. He's gotta stop kicking people...(for his and his teams sake anyway)

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        • Vni
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          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #139
          Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

          I think Artest came into every game thinking he was gonna elbow the entire opposing team. He just had tremendous self control.

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #140
            Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            Lol, theres premeditated and intentional..

            I don't think MWP went into that game a couple years back saying, 'I'm going to elbow James Harden in the head after an inbound' ...but I think we can all agree that was intentional.

            but to your point, I didn't say any one here was brushing it off- much like no one here said he was Burfict...its just pretty much calling a spade a spade. He's gotta stop kicking people...(for his and his teams sake anyway)
            Premeditated and Intentional are pretty much one in the same, if I'm not mistaken...but that's beside my point here.

            And I still didn't think Artest did it on purpose. Said it at the time when it happened too but I also knew that he had to miss games because you couldn't have guys out there elbowing dudes with no consequence, especially with all the Concussion Talk that was just starting to ramp up at the time.
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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #141
              Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Vni
              I think Artest came into every game thinking he was gonna elbow the entire opposing team. He just had tremendous self control.
              Touche' lol

              First example I could think of off the top of my head though....theres many, many more to choose from.

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              • ojandpizza
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                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #142
                Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                I don't believe it's intentional personally...



                but quirk, flail, whatever you want to call it, you can't continue kicking guys and say 'Oh that's just what Draymond does'. This isn't a league wide issue they're just singling Dray out on.



                It's just something he's going to have to try and control.


                This so my thoughts 100%

                I don't believe he's doing it on purpose, but damn he's kicked people like 10 times in just the past couple months of basketball. Intentional or not I think it's something he's going to start getting warning for and he'll have to keep a mental note of it.

                Otherwise, if continued, it needs to consistently be a foul. Sometimes players unintentionally jump over the back for a rebound, throw an elbow on a drop step, land under a shooter trying to contest, etc. They'll have to start calling something. Accidental fouls happen, you can't just allow him to kick people.


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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #143
                  Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  Didn't guys like Rodman and Ben Wallace used to do that **** back in the day or am I tripping?

                  This type of thing happens more than we think it does in the league. May not happen with every single team, but it's not just limited to one team or one person like we think.
                  Yes Rodman showed off some Chun Li Street Fighter moves whenever be grabbed a rebound.
                  "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                  "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                  • DamnYanks2
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 20794

                    #144
                    Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                    Really ESPN, we are doing this Mj, LeBron debate again?

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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #145
                      Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                      These Bulls Grey Unis are kinda slick though


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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #146
                        Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                        I'm not used to Bron in the UC without getting booed on every possesion

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                        • DamnYanks2
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                          • Jun 2007
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                          #147
                          Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                          Haha Taj even knew he got bailed out.

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24451

                            #148
                            Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            These Bulls Grey Unis are kinda slick though


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                            I hate the sleeved jerseys but even I copped one last year. Really like those greys.

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                            • CMH
                              Making you famous
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #149
                              Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                              This 4th quarter is the reminder I needed that I am indeed watching a Knicks game.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • lilteapot
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                                • Aug 2013
                                • 4550

                                #150
                                Re: 11/29 - 12/5 Games Discussion Thread

                                JR Smith has been really bad

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