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  • TheFinalEvent97
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    • Jul 2016
    • 1519

    #151
    Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    Saw that it was the only 50/15/15 game ever. Crazy to think that is true. I'm sure Russell/Wilt came close to that with blocks back when they weren't recorded as a stat, but damn all these years and nobody has had a game quite like that.

    Edit* game not season lol

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    The link below is for the games where Wilt Chamberlain's shot block numbers were recorded though they arent official. Looking through it he has 1 50/15/15 game on the 23rd October vs the Pistons, 53 points,21 rebounds,15 blocks
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...k_data_exists/

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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47568

      #152
      Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by redsox4evur
      Kris Dunn out here playing NBA Street V3.


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      Napier face is priceless lol. WTF just happen. How does he have the ball again?




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      • DieHardYankee26
        BING BONG
        • Feb 2008
        • 10178

        #153
        Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

        D'Antoni doesn't have anything to do with Harden, dude is a monster. Giving him the ball is more common sense than a genius coaching decision.
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        • Caveman24
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          • Jul 2011
          • 1352

          #154
          Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
          D'Antoni doesn't have anything to do with Harden, dude is a monster. Giving him the ball is more common sense than a genius coaching decision.
          Pringles track record with guards is pretty good. He deserves some credit for Harden season.
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          • DieHardYankee26
            BING BONG
            • Feb 2008
            • 10178

            #155
            Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

            Based on what I'd seen D'Antoni and Harden say about each other, D'Antoni came in and said "Oh James, you like handling the ball, playing fast, and shooting 3's? Me too! Let's do that."

            I don't know. This is a basketball coaching thing I guess. Is D'Antoni calling plays that make Harden better or did he unleash the beast that was always there? I lean towards the latter, and don't know how to credit him. But I don't like D'Antoni, I don't think he's some kind of offensive genius, I think he gets great players and does great things with them, and when he doesn't his system sucks and is worthless. I guess I respect that he saw a situation where he could succeed and went there.
            Originally posted by G Perico
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            • ProfessaPackMan
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              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #156
              12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

              I knew Harden was great, but never thought he could get THIS great. Even when he came in 2nd behind Curry for MVP, he wasn't like this.

              Hell, it wasn't that long ago when we were all calling him James Har_en and we've stopped that now that he's putting up triple doubles. [emoji38] Not to mention, we were dogging him because he wasn't passing the ball and we were hating him because of how he was getting his points, lol.


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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #157
                Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                3 triple doubles in one night. I don't know how I feel about this.

                Malcolm Brogdom (This guy is a rookie. Been a huge surprise in my opinion for the Bucks. Vaughn was suppose to get Middleton minutes when he went down)


                Russell Westbrook (Beast or as 2k calls him One of a Kind)


                James Harden (The suns system fits him well. I just don't see the Rockets going deep because of their defense. Once the playoffs start the game changes)


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                • Vni
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 14833

                  #158
                  Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  Not to mention, we were dogging him because he wasn't passing the ball and we were hating him because of how he was getting his points, lol.
                  Wasn't it like just a week ago ?

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                  • JazzMan
                    SOLDIER, First Class...
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 13547

                    #159
                    Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                    Alec Burks expected to make his season debut tonight

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                    • Streets
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                      • Aug 2004
                      • 5787

                      #160
                      Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                      Based on what I'd seen D'Antoni and Harden say about each other, D'Antoni came in and said "Oh James, you like handling the ball, playing fast, and shooting 3's? Me too! Let's do that."

                      I don't know. This is a basketball coaching thing I guess. Is D'Antoni calling plays that make Harden better or did he unleash the beast that was always there? I lean towards the latter, and don't know how to credit him. But I don't like D'Antoni, I don't think he's some kind of offensive genius, I think he gets great players and does great things with them, and when he doesn't his system sucks and is worthless. I guess I respect that he saw a situation where he could succeed and went there.
                      It's obvious your dislike of MDA is blinding you to all he's done for Harden (and Houston).

                      - The offense before MDA was everyone stand there and Harden Isos. Now people cut, people set picks and roll, the team runs the break. There's just a lot more motion and Harden always finds the gaps to either attack himself or set someone else up.

                      - Making Harden the PG was another genius move. First, Harden has become a much more unselfish player knowing his number 1 job is getting his team going and he's gone on record saying he enjoys setting guys up MORE than scoring this season. He also has to fight less through screens to get the ball which makes him more energized.

                      - The development of young players like Capela, Harrell, and Dekker has been amazing under MDA. He has put them into positions to succeed.

                      Now admittedly MDA needs a great facilitator for his teams and "system" to work (Nash, Harden, Lin for a bit). Without an engine it doesn't work. In that way I think Harden and MDA have both helped eachother. What Harden is doing, making the players around him significantly better is astonishing. He's going to take a second option of Gordon and Anderson (same core that Anthony Davis did nothing with for years) to possibly home court advantage in the playoffs. This is a team most had slated below the Thunder, Clippers, Grizzlies, etc. when the season started. Both Harden and MDA were kind of being looked at as washed up/overhyped and had a lot to prove and both have helped change the league's perception of them by buying in to one another.

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                      • DieHardYankee26
                        BING BONG
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 10178

                        #161
                        Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                        I guess if Harden doing this is super surprising to you then you would attribute a lot of his improvement to D'Antoni.

                        I agree that he has done a lot for their offense, they also went out and got shooters in free agency that Harden could pass to and got Dwight out of there who was demanding umpteen touches per game. I disagree that making Harden point guard was a "genius move" vehemently. It's about as much genius as making LeBron your point guard. He's a force of nature offensively, you put the ball in his hands. I don't know who was looking at Harden as overhyped or washed up but they were wrong and I would've told them they were wrong then. Harden was the first player voted MVP, Pop says he's the only player in the league who he wants to watch tape of, D'Antoni isn't doing anything for the way the league looks at him.
                        Originally posted by G Perico
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                        I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                        In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                        The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                        • BleacherBum2310
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                          • Aug 2010
                          • 7107

                          #162
                          Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                          I guess if Harden doing this is super surprising to you then you would attribute a lot of his improvement to D'Antoni.

                          I agree that he has done a lot for their offense, they also went out and got shooters in free agency that Harden could pass to and got Dwight out of there who was demanding umpteen touches per game. I disagree that making Harden point guard was a "genius move" vehemently. It's about as much genius as making LeBron your point guard. He's a force of nature offensively, you put the ball in his hands. I don't know who was looking at Harden as overhyped or washed up but they were wrong and I would've told them they were wrong then. Harden was the first player voted MVP, Pop says he's the only player in the league who he wants to watch tape of, D'Antoni isn't doing anything for the way the league looks at him.

                          well the league probably looks at him as a good coach and great offensive mind that was in an awful situation is his last stop.
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                          • ProfessaPackMan
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                            • Mar 2008
                            • 63852

                            #163
                            Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                            McHale tried that and we seen how that ended up. Harden was ball dominant before D'Antoni got there except he would look to get his first, second or third before passing it out to anyone else.

                            The only shooter they really brought in was Anderson in the offseason and nobody was sure about Gordon because he was always hurt.


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                            • ojandpizza
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                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29807

                              #164
                              Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                              I give Houston credit, D'Antoni move was great for the direction they're headed and for Harden. They also added pieces to make the coaching move an even better fit, they have guys that benefit both Harden and the system.

                              Harden's decision making is better, but he's still basically the same guy. I would maybe argue he was even better the year he was considered MVP given what little was around him and the fact that he was actually playing defense that year (what was swaying votes his way in the first place). It was last season where he regressed back to no passing, no defense, usual self.

                              Moving him to PG and changing up some things the D'Antoni way was a big improvement. Sure you can say it was Harden just being the beast he is, but that doesn't happen without the D'Antoni changes and "guidance" for lack of a better word. He's still the same player, it's not like he just woke up a decided he would make more plays this year and everyone on the team will automatically be in sync with him. There is a reason everything is coming together the way it is, Harden is a great player but to not give pringles any of the credit is silly.




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                              • DieHardYankee26
                                BING BONG
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 10178

                                #165
                                Re: 12/27 - 1/2 Games Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
                                well the league probably looks at him as a good coach and great offensive mind that was in an awful situation is his last stop.
                                It might not've been clear by the way I worded it but I was saying D'Antoni isn't doing anything for the way the League looks at Harden.

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                McHale tried that and we seen how that ended up. Harden was ball dominant before D'Antoni got there except he would look to get his first, second or third before passing it out to anyone else.

                                The only shooter they really brought in was Anderson in the offseason and nobody was sure about Gordon because he was always hurt.
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                                Disagree, Harden's selfishness has been a corny meme since he got to Houston. He's been getting better as a playmaker every year. McHale tried that and what happened? Playoffs, playoffs, conference finals appearance.

                                Everybody was sure that if Eric Gordon was healthy, he would shoot the lights out. That's what he's doing.

                                "I didn’t know what to expect," Harden admitted to the Post. "I know what Steve Nash did, but I didn’t know what to expect. Now it’s free flowing. He doesn’t try to control anything. If he has a play, he’ll throw it at me, and if I have something better, I’ll just tell him I have something better, and he’s cool with it.
                                D'Antoni is putting him in great positions, but I really feel a lot of it is just letting the artist paint.
                                Last edited by DieHardYankee26; 01-02-2017, 12:44 PM.
                                Originally posted by G Perico
                                If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                                I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                                In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                                The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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