The Shaquille effect

[WTF]

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I'm actually getting ready to go back to college to become a teacher, and to coach. I can't wait. I have coached a few summer leagues, and have had a lot of success. I really enjoy the game of basketball and feel I am fairly knowledgeable, so I think it will be a good fit for me.

I figured more people would post in a thread, since everyone seems to have an opinion on Shaq and Wade, but I guess when two knowledgeable vets discuss basketball, everyone else just sits back and intakes the vast knowledge that we hand out, :y4:

[WTF]

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I'm actually getting ready to go back to college to become a teacher, and to coach. I can't wait. I have coached a few summer leagues, and have had a lot of success. I really enjoy the game of basketball and feel I am fairly knowledgeable, so I think it will be a good fit for me.

I figured more people would post in a thread, since everyone seems to have an opinion on Shaq and Wade, but I guess when two knowledgeable vets discuss basketball, everyone else just sits back and intakes the vast knowledge that we hand out, :y4:

[nkhera1]

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well what you guys said did make sense, but what if the star player keeps burning you over and over again. Like in the case of shaq. He can pretty much score whenever he wants on whomever he wants. I mean if you just guard him with one player he can probably go off for about 40 a night at least.

[nkhera1]

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well what you guys said did make sense, but what if the star player keeps burning you over and over again. Like in the case of shaq. He can pretty much score whenever he wants on whomever he wants. I mean if you just guard him with one player he can probably go off for about 40 a night at least.

[WTF]

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I guess my point is this.

If Shaq scores 45 points in a game, but doesn't get the other's involved, then a TEAM can beat them.

If Shaq scores 18 points per game, but gets other players involved, who also score 20+, then you have a problem. You have two hot hands instead of one guy doing all of the scoring. In the Miami heat's case, Wade get's hot, score's 25 points, Shaq has 18, Jones get's open looks and picks up 15, Butler and the other's pick up 10 a piece, you have more of a problem on your hand. You have guys who are involved in the game, instead of just watching Shaq dominate.

It's hard to explain, but that is where I am coming from.

[WTF]

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I guess my point is this.

If Shaq scores 45 points in a game, but doesn't get the other's involved, then a TEAM can beat them.

If Shaq scores 18 points per game, but gets other players involved, who also score 20+, then you have a problem. You have two hot hands instead of one guy doing all of the scoring. In the Miami heat's case, Wade get's hot, score's 25 points, Shaq has 18, Jones get's open looks and picks up 15, Butler and the other's pick up 10 a piece, you have more of a problem on your hand. You have guys who are involved in the game, instead of just watching Shaq dominate.

It's hard to explain, but that is where I am coming from.

[nkhera1]

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I guess my point is this.

If Shaq scores 45 points in a game, but doesn't get the other's involved, then a TEAM can beat them.

If Shaq scores 18 points per game, but gets other players involved, who also score 20+, then you have a problem. You have two hot hands instead of one guy doing all of the scoring. In the Miami heat's case, Wade get's hot, score's 25 points, Shaq has 18, Jones get's open looks and picks up 15, Butler and the other's pick up 10 a piece, you have more of a problem on your hand. You have guys who are involved in the game, instead of just watching Shaq dominate.

It's hard to explain, but that is where I am coming from.

i get what you are saying, but other players will still score, or they can just keep giving it to shaq.

[nkhera1]

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I guess my point is this.

If Shaq scores 45 points in a game, but doesn't get the other's involved, then a TEAM can beat them.

If Shaq scores 18 points per game, but gets other players involved, who also score 20+, then you have a problem. You have two hot hands instead of one guy doing all of the scoring. In the Miami heat's case, Wade get's hot, score's 25 points, Shaq has 18, Jones get's open looks and picks up 15, Butler and the other's pick up 10 a piece, you have more of a problem on your hand. You have guys who are involved in the game, instead of just watching Shaq dominate.

It's hard to explain, but that is where I am coming from.

i get what you are saying, but other players will still score, or they can just keep giving it to shaq.

[CMH]

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i get what you are saying, but other players will still score, or they can just keep giving it to shaq.

I understand your point, but I think something like that would only work if Shaq was going to put up Wilt numbers.

The case is this. If you double team Shaq, he's going to score 20+. If you don't, he's going to score 25-30 points (just based on averages).

I would rather give up 5-10 points to Shaq if it means that guys like Robert Horry or Wesley Person rarely see the ball beyond the three-point arc.

I still always look back at the game winning shots in past championship years and it's always been a role player (Kerr, Paxon, Avery Johnson, Horry, etc.) Everyone always puts their full concentration on the big scorers and leave the other guys open. There is a reason why the Steve Kerr's of the league are playing in the NBA - they can hit a spot-up three.

THen I watch what Detroit did last year and they let Kobe and Shaq do their thing and kept the rest of the bench off the ball. They just played man defense.

In my opinon the percentage of stopping a shot is better when you have two players guarding two players rather than two players guarding one player with another one wide open.

[CMH]

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i get what you are saying, but other players will still score, or they can just keep giving it to shaq.

I understand your point, but I think something like that would only work if Shaq was going to put up Wilt numbers.

The case is this. If you double team Shaq, he's going to score 20+. If you don't, he's going to score 25-30 points (just based on averages).

I would rather give up 5-10 points to Shaq if it means that guys like Robert Horry or Wesley Person rarely see the ball beyond the three-point arc.

I still always look back at the game winning shots in past championship years and it's always been a role player (Kerr, Paxon, Avery Johnson, Horry, etc.) Everyone always puts their full concentration on the big scorers and leave the other guys open. There is a reason why the Steve Kerr's of the league are playing in the NBA - they can hit a spot-up three.

THen I watch what Detroit did last year and they let Kobe and Shaq do their thing and kept the rest of the bench off the ball. They just played man defense.

In my opinon the percentage of stopping a shot is better when you have two players guarding two players rather than two players guarding one player with another one wide open.

[patrick17]

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In my opinon the percentage of stopping a shot is better when you have two players guarding two players rather than two players guarding one player with another one wide open.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

when i read that, i thought my brain stopped b/c of how intelligent and logical that is

[patrick17]

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In my opinon the percentage of stopping a shot is better when you have two players guarding two players rather than two players guarding one player with another one wide open.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

when i read that, i thought my brain stopped b/c of how intelligent and logical that is

[kuruption]

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i agree , why doesnt everyone play him like the pistons did , he wants to be double teamed so teamates can get easier looks. its like why are they doing what he wants them to do .

[kuruption]

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i agree , why doesnt everyone play him like the pistons did , he wants to be double teamed so teamates can get easier looks. its like why are they doing what he wants them to do .

[CMH]

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when i read that, i thought my brain stopped b/c of how intelligent and logical that is

lol, I know it sounds so duh, but really I think it would surprise you how many people and coaches in the league don't seem to undertand this simple concept.