2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #376
    Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Streets



    They win, it's on him - Russ is god!



    They lose and he plays well - it's on his teammates( "he has no help!")



    They lose and he plays bad - "look how awful they are when Russ has a bad game"



    But people say these things for a reason? He has to do so much, they almost only win games when he is playing god-mode. That's the whole point of why people say that, that's why people have him in the MVP conversation even though he's a 6th seed.

    People act like you can't have one without the other. If your team is absolute trash while you're off the floor they are still going to be absolute trash on nights he doesn't play well. If they win games they shouldn't win and he's dropping a 50 point triple double then yes he should get that type of "he was amazing" reaction. Why would he not.

    It's logical reasoning. No **** if the team is bad and they win when he's a freak it's going to get rewarded towards him. What should they say? Man Oladipo's 15 points on 30% sure was nice tonight. Or Kanter's 18 points on pretty much all assists from Westbrook sure were amazing.. I mean you gotta at least be a little bit realistic here...

    This is like all the people who wanted to stopping giving LeBron so much credit because Mo Williams made an All-Star team.. like ****, at some point you have to use some logic on what's fueling the wins here..



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    • DamnYanks2
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2007
      • 20794

      #377
      Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

      WB had four steals and a block tonight too.

      I just think if Westbrook had a supporting cast of shooters like Harden, he'd be seen in a different light.

      I wasn't crazy about his settling, and constant jacking in the fourth. But seriously, who else was gonna score.

      It's sad when Westbrook settling is a better option then some of the okc players shooting a normal shot. There's not a single player on okc that's a true knockdown shooter not one, Harden has multiple guys.

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      • BleacherBum2310
        All Star
        • Aug 2010
        • 7107

        #378
        Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

        Through 3 Quarters Russ was fine and then he just went bad insane russ in the 4th. I don't even think the 4-18 tells the whole story.

        I also really can't get behind the lazy analysis all harden does is flop and get to the line. and also this is what Westbrook wants.

        the OKC has bad teammates is a really tiring discussion btw. I've said my peace on that topic haha.
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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #379
          2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

          This Harden/Westbrook thing reminds me of last year's elections in that both sides go to crazy extremes to prove to the other that they're wrong even if it means using lazy narratives or fake news. Picking and choosing things to fit an argument even if it makes them sound hypocritical.

          And yes, I'm speaking strictly on here if you want me to be specific.


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          • fatleg3
            MVP
            • Aug 2008
            • 3602

            #380
            Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

            OK Javale

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #381
              Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

              Why JaVale trending on twitter tonight? What he do?

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              • Boltman
                L.A. to S.D. to HI
                • Mar 2004
                • 18283

                #382
                Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                Harden sucks, Westbrook rules.

                Westbrook sucks, Harden rules.

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                • DamnYanks2
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 20794

                  #383
                  Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                  Felton> WB Harden

                  Case closed.

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #384
                    Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Boltman
                    Harden sucks, Westbrook rules.

                    Westbrook sucks, Harden rules.

                    Joakim Noah rolling over in his grave because people calling his boy Taj Gibson trash

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #385
                      Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                      Dang man Lillard got his dunk blocked by Steph.

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                      • dubcity
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • May 2012
                        • 17874

                        #386
                        Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                        Respect for the 51 points, but Russ is really showing on a big stage how inefficient a scorer he is. Gotta get more per FGA.

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                        • JohnTaylor
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 280

                          #387
                          Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by dubcity
                          Respect for the 51 points, but Russ is really showing on a big stage how inefficient a scorer he is. Gotta get more per FGA.
                          Its the Roberson effect.

                          Never seen an nba defender sag that far off compared to Tony Allen.

                          Who ever is guarding Roberson is basically a Free Safety to double any scorer.

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                          • Vni
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 14833

                            #388
                            Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                            5 points, 7 rebounds for Adams. That's disappointing. He was much better last year.

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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #389
                              Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                              What's funny is, if Westbrook won with Harden's line, we'd be talking about the 41% shooting and 7 turnovers right now instead of how 'efficient' he was....like how it's been all year after a big Russ game.

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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #390
                                Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                                Harden was 16/17 from the FT Line and at one point had 15 pts on 3/11 shooting thru the 3rd. Tonight really isn't the night to play the "efficiency" card for anyone.

                                And I'd love to see this evidence that shows Harden is a better defender than Westbrook over the years and that it's not as bad as people make it out to be. Despite the fact that not even a year ago, everybody here was calling him James Haren.

                                But again, picking and choosing what fits...


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