2017 Offseason Thread

[redsox4evur]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

No supermax for CP, PG or Hayward. How does this news change the offseason?




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I hate to say this because of sounding like a homer, but I imagine it makes seeing Gordon Hayward in Boston a little more likely.

Sorry Jazzman.


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[Majingir]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Whoever didn't put LeBron or Westbrook on 1st was the one who had Curry,Durant over them. I'm guessing we saw Curry, Durant,Draymond,DeAndre and Harden on that guys ballot. And he probably had Kawhi on 3rd team too.

These league's need to eliminate "that guy". Mlb has it with hof ballots where guys intentionally don't put someone on for stupid reasons, like all these clear cut first ballot hof guys who might get only 95-99% of vote because of "that guy".

Not that it impacts anything, but guys with that type of ego or issues shouldn't be given the right to participate in things like that.

[IlliniM1ke]

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Something has to give. Bradley and IT (who is said to be seeking a Russell Westbrook like extension) are up for extensions next season. First overall pick needs to play significant minutes. So someone between Bradley, IT, Smart and Rozier will have to be dealt. I think Bradley ends up the odd man out. Ainge has some interesting decisions ahead of him.

I agree I think it will be Bradley who goes but IT has some risk if they give him a huge deal. I love him as a player but he's a defensive liability and you have to figure as he gets older and his athleticism takes a hit he could have difficultly finishing due to his lack of size.

Bradley you know you at least have a good defensive player but he has his own issues with his injury history.

[JazzMan]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

I hate to say this because of sounding like a homer, but I imagine it makes seeing Gordon Hayward in Boston a little more likely.

Sorry Jazzman.


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I still think he stays, but this definitely makes moving to Boston more enticing for him.

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[BleacherBum2310]

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I agree I think it will be Bradley who goes but IT has some risk if they give him a huge deal. I love him as a player but he's a defensive liability and you have to figure as he gets older and his athleticism takes a hit he could have difficultly finishing due to his lack of size.

Bradley you know you at least have a good defensive player but he has his own issues with his injury history.

I love Bradley so much but IT is elite on offense. unless you see a big decline coming I mean and They simply struggle to create offense without him. So building around him even with the AGE/and defense makes sense.

[King_B_Mack]

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I agree I think it will be Bradley who goes but IT has some risk if they give him a huge deal. I love him as a player but he's a defensive liability and you have to figure as he gets older and his athleticism takes a hit he could have difficultly finishing due to his lack of size.

Bradley you know you at least have a good defensive player but he has his own issues with his injury history.

I mean, aging affects defense too. Kobe Bryant, Kirk Hinrich are guys that come to mind immediately. Kobe especially as he was one of the best defenders in the league, but age and injuries took that away in his final years where he got by on reputation.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Per WojGod:

For the Lakers, they are pretty confident and have a great deal of belief that they’re in position to get Paul George in 2018. Whether he stays in Indiana or he’s traded elsewhere, he’s going to be a free agent in 18 if he doesn’t re-sign this summer in Indiana. They don’t have to give assets up to go and try to trade for him. In fact, I think they’ve been encouraged to do just the opposite. If Paul George is going to go there, he wants them to have assets. He wants them to be as good of a team as they can when he walks in.

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[z Revis]

2017 Offseason Thread

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That'd be dumb to wait IMO. By waiting they risk Pritchard putting together a solid team this year or Turner taking a big step in his game and Indy becoming good enough for PG to stay. Plus that also gives PG another season to make All NBA and potentially hit the bonus next season and resign. Get him now while things aren't looking good and while he's not that happy before he changes his mind.

As for the lists, I don't understand the huge gap in voting between PG and Butler. Figured it would've been closer than that. Can't say I'm surprised he didn't make it though. If not for his last 2 months of great play he wouldn't have even been considered lol.

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[ProfessaPackMan]

2017 Offseason Thread

They've seen what the Knicks did when they gutted half of their team to get Melo when they could've gotten him a few months later without giving up anything especially considering how pressed he was to go to NY. And all they have to show for it is one playoff series win in 7 years.

And if PG is that pressed to play in LA, he'll take that chance in FA. No lose situation for LA by waiting because they get to keep their young guys, draft picks and cap space to go after another big time FA next offseason.

Now whether or not Magic will do that is another question, but the smart and logical thing for them to do is wait til 2018.


Edit: Forgot to say Boston is another example of this as well.

[Boltman]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

They've seen what the Knicks did when they gutted half of their team to get Melo when they could've gotten him a few months later without giving up anything especially considering how pressed he was to go to NY. And all they have to show for it is one playoff series win in 7 years.

And if PG is that pressed to play in LA, he'll take that chance in FA. No lose situation for LA by waiting because they get to keep their young guys, draft picks and cap space to go after another big time FA next offseason.

Now whether or not Magic will do that is another question, but the smart and logical thing for them to do is wait til 2018.


Edit: Forgot to say Boston is another example of this as well.

Rebutted & spoken like a genius.

I'm in complete agreement and I also agree with if Magic & Pelinka actually do this is another thing. I hope they do.

[ojandpizza]

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Just trade Russell for him and get him now. They already have Clarkson and soon to snag Ball and Indiana knows he's leaving so they'll take the trade. By doing that they'll have his bird rights and will be able to go over by keeping him and afford to sign other guys.


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[Vni]

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Just trade Russell for him and get him now. They already have Clarkson and soon to snag Ball and Indiana knows he's leaving so they'll take the trade. By doing that they'll have his bird rights and will be able to go over by keeping him and afford to sign other guys.


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Calm down Magic.

[IlliniM1ke]

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I mean, aging affects defense too. Kobe Bryant, Kirk Hinrich are guys that come to mind immediately. Kobe especially as he was one of the best defenders in the league, but age and injuries took that away in his final years where he got by on reputation.

I agree and I prefer keeping IT but I do worry about how his game will age, AB will likely have further issues with injury due to age so he carries lots of risk as well but he's definitely the cheaper option.

I still hope they go with IT but have concerns with either.

[z Revis]

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It is a risk because it's also PG's decision, not just Magic's. If PG made All NBA this year he resigns and isn't going to the Lakers. If they refuse to take a trade who's to say that doesn't happen next year?


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[Vni]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Would be cool to get PG at some point but let's not act like he's a once in a generation type of talent.

I don't see the urgency about getting PG and if the front office does it's purely an ego type thing.