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  • PlayaHataSupreme
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 2209

    #151
    Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

    Originally posted by ludacris06
    Yao Ming needs to be benched and Deke should start.
    You do know how old Deke is, right?

    Even if he did start, he would give us more rebounding and defensive presence, but at the sacrifice of scoring, and I don't think he can play starters minutes every night anymore.
    Favorite Teams:
    NBA: Houston Rockets
    NFL: Tennessee Titans
    MLB: Chicago White Sox
    NCAA: Florida State Seminoles


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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #152
      Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

      didn't think Van Gundy was a big problem for the Rockets last year. His coaching style got them into the playoffs and they were very competitive. If the Rockets beat the Lakers in the playoffs I doubt you would hear anyone saying anything about Van Gundy.
      Tell me, why did Mobley say his style isnt good and limiting, and called him a dictator (although I dont agree with that part but what do I know).. Do you disagree with the guy who played for him?


      As far as Tmac you are not watching Rockets games if you say all he is doing it taking jumpers. Too many yes, but that is what the coach set up.. and he is doing what his coach is asking of him.. inside out... let the game go through yao.. Mac has to run off of screen and rolls getting the ball at the top of the key.

      The man gets more rebounds ever game than both PF's combined, he gets more blocks than both PF's and Yao combined, and he gets a good high number of assist most of the time. I mean if you're going to post stats post them all, what about his game where he shot over 50% and almost had a TD?

      How about the games where he got 13 11 9 10 assist? You wanna ignore that to say all losses are his fault. The man has hit clutch jumpers and played great defense for his team. Go back to the Clips and Portland back to back games. Who was the man? Who closed the games out? Who was it? It was Mcgrady...... tell the story like it happened.
      Last edited by 23; 12-07-2004, 08:26 PM.

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #153
        Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

        didn't think Van Gundy was a big problem for the Rockets last year. His coaching style got them into the playoffs and they were very competitive. If the Rockets beat the Lakers in the playoffs I doubt you would hear anyone saying anything about Van Gundy.
        Tell me, why did Mobley say his style isnt good and limiting, and called him a dictator (although I dont agree with that part but what do I know).. Do you disagree with the guy who played for him?


        As far as Tmac you are not watching Rockets games if you say all he is doing it taking jumpers. Too many yes, but that is what the coach set up.. and he is doing what his coach is asking of him.. inside out... let the game go through yao.. Mac has to run off of screen and rolls getting the ball at the top of the key.

        The man gets more rebounds ever game than both PF's combined, he gets more blocks than both PF's and Yao combined, and he gets a good high number of assist most of the time. I mean if you're going to post stats post them all, what about his game where he shot over 50% and almost had a TD?

        How about the games where he got 13 11 9 10 assist? You wanna ignore that to say all losses are his fault. The man has hit clutch jumpers and played great defense for his team. Go back to the Clips and Portland back to back games. Who was the man? Who closed the games out? Who was it? It was Mcgrady...... tell the story like it happened.

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #154
          Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

          hat's why people rate Kobe ahead of T-Mac. It has nothing to do with skill. It's about desire. Kobe can be an egotistical prick and plays as stupid and selfish as anyone but at the same time he offsets that with his effort and desire to win.

          So tell me what happened in the finals again? How his offsetting selfish stupid egotistical desire to win screwed his teammates. How Billups busted his tail., then took the MVP, how Prince shut him down, had him shooting 30% how he was shooting fadeaway 3's and bricking them all. Tell me how that trash is great?

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #155
            Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

            hat's why people rate Kobe ahead of T-Mac. It has nothing to do with skill. It's about desire. Kobe can be an egotistical prick and plays as stupid and selfish as anyone but at the same time he offsets that with his effort and desire to win.

            So tell me what happened in the finals again? How his offsetting selfish stupid egotistical desire to win screwed his teammates. How Billups busted his tail., then took the MVP, how Prince shut him down, had him shooting 30% how he was shooting fadeaway 3's and bricking them all. Tell me how that trash is great?

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            • manu20ginobili
              Rookie
              • Jun 2004
              • 28

              #156
              Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

              Originally posted by KDRE
              Tell me, why did Mobley say his style isnt good and limiting, and called him a dictator (although I dont agree with that part but what do I know).. Do you disagree with the guy who played for him?
              Who cares what Cuttino "black hole" Mobley says? His game never changes no matter who's the coach. He's a chucker plain and simple. What has this newfound freedom done for Mobley's game? Have you seen any difference? I haven't.


              As far as Tmac you are not watching Rockets games if you say all he is doing it taking jumpers. Too many yes, but that is what the coach set up.. and he is doing what his coach is asking of him.. inside out... let the game go through yao.. Mac has to run off of screen and rolls getting the ball at the top of the key.
              I've watched the Rockets a lot actually. And even if McGrady has a lane to drive he rarely does it. The guy barely has a midrange game at all. He's all about taking long jumpers which is a low percentage way of scoring. I'm not gonna sit here and believe someone with his skills needs a freakin coach to draw up plays for him to get to the rim. Other elite guards in the league don't need that ****.

              The man gets more rebounds ever game than both PF's combined
              bullsh*t

              he gets more blocks than both PF's and Yao combined
              bullsh*t

              and he gets a good high number of assist most of the time. I mean if you're going to post stats post them all, what about his game where he shot over 50% and almost had a TD?

              How about the games where he got 13 11 9 10 assist? You wanna ignore that to say all losses are his fault. The man has hit clutch jumpers and played great defense for his team. Go back to the Clips and Portland back to back games. Who was the man? Who closed the games out? Who was it? It was Mcgrady...... tell the story like it happened.
              I'm not going to single out 3 or 4 games out of nearly 20 to make T-Mac look good...sorry. A true superstar posts decent numbers CONSISTENTLY and on top of that WINS games. While you're pointing out those games I can easily point out games McGrady shot below 40% with less than 5 assists and less than 5 freakin rebounds. Now that I think about it McGrady reminds me of Carmelo Anthony with the way he's playing right now. If his jumper is on he plays good but if his jumper is off (which is most of the time these days) he's almost no good to you because he doesn't try to make up for it in other areas and he's not going to go to the rim to draw fouls to get to the line.

              Originally posted by KDRE
              So tell me what happened in the finals again? How his offsetting selfish stupid egotistical desire to win screwed his teammates. How Billups busted his tail., then took the MVP, how Prince shut him down, had him shooting 30% how he was shooting fadeaway 3's and bricking them all. Tell me how that trash is great?
              Ummm...I never said Kobe was great. Why do you think I called him a stupid, egotistical prick? Stupidity and ego aside Kobe shows a hell of a lot more desire and will to win than McGrady does. Anyone denying that is blind.
              Last edited by manu20ginobili; 12-07-2004, 09:15 PM.

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              • manu20ginobili
                Rookie
                • Jun 2004
                • 28

                #157
                Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

                Originally posted by KDRE
                Tell me, why did Mobley say his style isnt good and limiting, and called him a dictator (although I dont agree with that part but what do I know).. Do you disagree with the guy who played for him?
                Who cares what Cuttino "black hole" Mobley says? His game never changes no matter who's the coach. He's a chucker plain and simple. What has this newfound freedom done for Mobley's game? Have you seen any difference? I haven't.


                As far as Tmac you are not watching Rockets games if you say all he is doing it taking jumpers. Too many yes, but that is what the coach set up.. and he is doing what his coach is asking of him.. inside out... let the game go through yao.. Mac has to run off of screen and rolls getting the ball at the top of the key.
                I've watched the Rockets a lot actually. And even if McGrady has a lane to drive he rarely does it. The guy barely has a midrange game at all. He's all about taking long jumpers which is a low percentage way of scoring. I'm not gonna sit here and believe someone with his skills needs a freakin coach to draw up plays for him to get to the rim. Other elite guards in the league don't need that ****.

                The man gets more rebounds ever game than both PF's combined
                bullsh*t

                he gets more blocks than both PF's and Yao combined
                bullsh*t

                and he gets a good high number of assist most of the time. I mean if you're going to post stats post them all, what about his game where he shot over 50% and almost had a TD?

                How about the games where he got 13 11 9 10 assist? You wanna ignore that to say all losses are his fault. The man has hit clutch jumpers and played great defense for his team. Go back to the Clips and Portland back to back games. Who was the man? Who closed the games out? Who was it? It was Mcgrady...... tell the story like it happened.
                I'm not going to single out 3 or 4 games out of nearly 20 to make T-Mac look good...sorry. A true superstar posts decent numbers CONSISTENTLY and on top of that WINS games. While you're pointing out those games I can easily point out games McGrady shot below 40% with less than 5 assists and less than 5 freakin rebounds. Now that I think about it McGrady reminds me of Carmelo Anthony with the way he's playing right now. If his jumper is on he plays good but if his jumper is off (which is most of the time these days) he's almost no good to you because he doesn't try to make up for it in other areas and he's not going to go to the rim to draw fouls to get to the line.

                Originally posted by KDRE
                So tell me what happened in the finals again? How his offsetting selfish stupid egotistical desire to win screwed his teammates. How Billups busted his tail., then took the MVP, how Prince shut him down, had him shooting 30% how he was shooting fadeaway 3's and bricking them all. Tell me how that trash is great?
                Ummm...I never said Kobe was great. Why do you think I called him a stupid, egotistical prick? Stupidity and ego aside Kobe shows a hell of a lot more desire and will to win than McGrady does. Anyone denying that is blind.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #158
                  Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

                  Originally posted by manu20ginobili
                  Who cares what Cuttino "black hole" Mobley says? His game never changes no matter who's the coach. He's a chucker plain and simple. What has this newfound freedom done for Mobley's game? Have you seen any difference? I haven't.
                  Maybe you dont, but if you read the interview you would understand he wasnt lying. Read what he said before you comment on him. He did afterall play for the guy.



                  I've watched the Rockets a lot actually. And even if McGrady has a lane to drive he rarely does it. The guy barely has a midrange game at all. He's all about taking long jumpers which is a low percentage way of scoring. I'm not gonna sit here and believe someone with his skills needs a freakin coach to draw up plays for him to get to the rim. Other elite guards in the league don't need that ****.
                  Then you've seen the screen and roll plays, him being a better playmaker than the PG's No I'm not trying to make him look good, and I know he can play better, but if you dont think he's not trying hard to do exactly as JVG says then you arent paying attention. I agree the spot up jumpshot garbage should stop, but why do you think everyone is harping on JVG's style? The offense should be run through Mac like it was in Dallas not Yao in his 1990's NYK's basketball. The PF's are too soft, and Yao is too finese.


                  Quote:
                  The man gets more rebounds ever game than both PF's combined

                  bullsh*t


                  Then you need to go look at the stats for each and every game. Shall I post some?


                  he gets more blocks than both PF's and Yao combined
                  bullsh*t

                  C'mon man, have you really watched the games? You should look at the stats after the games. Mo Taylor goes games with no rebounds. That's pretty asinine for a man making his money.



                  I'm not going to single out 3 or 4 games out of nearly 20 to make T-Mac look good...sorry. A true superstar posts decent numbers CONSISTENTLY and on top of that WINS games. While you're pointing out those games I can easily point out games McGrady shot below 40% with less than 5 assists and less than 5 freakin rebounds. Now that I think about it McGrady reminds me of Carmelo Anthony with the way he's playing right now. If his jumper is on he plays good but if his jumper is off (which is most of the time these days) he's almost no good to you because he doesn't try to make up for it in other areas and he's not going to go to the rim to draw fouls to get to the line.
                  To a degree I agree with you, but tracy is not a spot up jumpshooter. He needs to have plays ran through him, and not screen and rolls where he gets doubled everytime, and stand and shoot 3's. Let them run, and run the ball through him a bit. Dont give him a shot, then run 2 iso's for Mo Taylor. C. Ward runs up, passes to Mo in the high post or at the 3pt line so he can give it to Yao, then clears out to shoot a 3 when Yao passes it back out. This is what is happening. Inside out. Yao isnt agressive enough, and both PF's are soft as marshmellows. That isnt going to work

                  As JVG said when the trade went down, Tracy wont lead the L in scoring.. He never intended for him to score much. He still thinks he can win scoring 70- 80ppg.. This team is last in posessions of the basketball. Last. That slow down trash isnt working. Dont limit the scoring champ when you have him. Let him get it going like in Dallas, and the team can get on a roll, instead of passing to Yao or Mo almost evertime down, and kicking it out for a 3.

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #159
                    Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

                    Originally posted by manu20ginobili
                    Who cares what Cuttino "black hole" Mobley says? His game never changes no matter who's the coach. He's a chucker plain and simple. What has this newfound freedom done for Mobley's game? Have you seen any difference? I haven't.
                    Maybe you dont, but if you read the interview you would understand he wasnt lying. Read what he said before you comment on him. He did afterall play for the guy.



                    I've watched the Rockets a lot actually. And even if McGrady has a lane to drive he rarely does it. The guy barely has a midrange game at all. He's all about taking long jumpers which is a low percentage way of scoring. I'm not gonna sit here and believe someone with his skills needs a freakin coach to draw up plays for him to get to the rim. Other elite guards in the league don't need that ****.
                    Then you've seen the screen and roll plays, him being a better playmaker than the PG's No I'm not trying to make him look good, and I know he can play better, but if you dont think he's not trying hard to do exactly as JVG says then you arent paying attention. I agree the spot up jumpshot garbage should stop, but why do you think everyone is harping on JVG's style? The offense should be run through Mac like it was in Dallas not Yao in his 1990's NYK's basketball. The PF's are too soft, and Yao is too finese.


                    Quote:
                    The man gets more rebounds ever game than both PF's combined

                    bullsh*t


                    Then you need to go look at the stats for each and every game. Shall I post some?


                    he gets more blocks than both PF's and Yao combined
                    bullsh*t

                    C'mon man, have you really watched the games? You should look at the stats after the games. Mo Taylor goes games with no rebounds. That's pretty asinine for a man making his money.



                    I'm not going to single out 3 or 4 games out of nearly 20 to make T-Mac look good...sorry. A true superstar posts decent numbers CONSISTENTLY and on top of that WINS games. While you're pointing out those games I can easily point out games McGrady shot below 40% with less than 5 assists and less than 5 freakin rebounds. Now that I think about it McGrady reminds me of Carmelo Anthony with the way he's playing right now. If his jumper is on he plays good but if his jumper is off (which is most of the time these days) he's almost no good to you because he doesn't try to make up for it in other areas and he's not going to go to the rim to draw fouls to get to the line.
                    To a degree I agree with you, but tracy is not a spot up jumpshooter. He needs to have plays ran through him, and not screen and rolls where he gets doubled everytime, and stand and shoot 3's. Let them run, and run the ball through him a bit. Dont give him a shot, then run 2 iso's for Mo Taylor. C. Ward runs up, passes to Mo in the high post or at the 3pt line so he can give it to Yao, then clears out to shoot a 3 when Yao passes it back out. This is what is happening. Inside out. Yao isnt agressive enough, and both PF's are soft as marshmellows. That isnt going to work

                    As JVG said when the trade went down, Tracy wont lead the L in scoring.. He never intended for him to score much. He still thinks he can win scoring 70- 80ppg.. This team is last in posessions of the basketball. Last. That slow down trash isnt working. Dont limit the scoring champ when you have him. Let him get it going like in Dallas, and the team can get on a roll, instead of passing to Yao or Mo almost evertime down, and kicking it out for a 3.

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                    • ballerzinc
                      T*mpl* *wls
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1831

                      #160
                      Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

                      If Tracey had more help in the backcourt they would be better. I don't just mean another Mobley back there. It could just be guys who get the job done. Even an Eric Snow would help them because he is solid or a guy like Chucky Atkins. Nothing great but someone who can at least pass and score a bit.

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                      • ballerzinc
                        T*mpl* *wls
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1831

                        #161
                        Re: What is Houston's BIGGEST problem?? (vote)

                        If Tracey had more help in the backcourt they would be better. I don't just mean another Mobley back there. It could just be guys who get the job done. Even an Eric Snow would help them because he is solid or a guy like Chucky Atkins. Nothing great but someone who can at least pass and score a bit.

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