2018 Off-Season Thread

[Caveman24]

Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

We don't really have that many options at center. Zubac looks like he's developped his body quite a bit though.

We should've kept Thomas Bryant over him. He's a better shooter, rebounder & is slightly younger.

[SPTO]

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As one of those “whom are on OS” you don’t need to misrepresent the opinion as if we’re being hypocrites or something, because you’re a Raptors fan. Making a bad move or potentially franchise crippling move doesn’t necessarily have to align with our thought that they needed to make changes to the team after getting embarrassed in the playoffs yet again by LeBron. Especially when the biggest change they did make came AFTER their biggest hurdle in the postseason left the conference. With LeBron heading west, I wouldn’t have been opposed to them allow the current roster one more shot at a postseason run to see if they could finally overcome their demons with him gone. But if you’re going to still change the team once LeBron left, I thought making a move with Lowry was the smarter thing to do or if you were going to move DD, a move that would have given the franchise a better long term investment than the ultimate flight risk in the league would have been the better move than this.



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First, I want to apologize if i've misrepresented your views however when you have arguably a top 5 player in the league (when healthy) even for a year you got to pull the trigger. Also while this deal is fraught with danger it isn't as franchise crippling as some make it out to be. If it doesn't work out it easily pivots itself to an aggressive rebuild which is better to do than to keep clinging on to something that clearly isn't working.

The optics don't look good in some ways but from a clinical, cold analysis these were changes that need to happen. We will know if this gamble has paid off (whether Leonard stays for more than a year or not it doesn't matter. I'm talking performance on the court and team chemistry) by American Thanksgiving.

[DamnYanks2]

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I personally don't see the point in the move the Raptors made. **** over Derozan. Sign a diva. Unless OG truly breaks out. Same team. They aren't getting past Boston. Milwaukee, Indiana, 76ers are equal if not better.

And you are putting all your eggs in the basket. Hoping Kawhi is still Kawhi. Even with a career year from Kawhi. How much better is Toronto?

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[King_B_Mack]

Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

so..alex len has no value around the league?

Of course now that you bring it up Shams breaks;

Alex Len to Atlanta. 2-years, $8.5 million


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[SPTO]

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I personally don't see the point in the move the Raptors made. **** over Derozan. Sign a diva. Unless OG truly breaks out. Same team. They aren't getting past Boston. Milwaukee, Indiana, 76ers are equal if not better.

And you are putting all your eggs in the basket. Hoping Kawhi is still Kawhi. Even with a career year from Kawhi. How much better is Toronto?

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Looking at the reporting since the trade it's pretty clear they didn't **** over DeRozan the way it initially came out.

Kawhi at his best makes the Raptors a prohibitive favorite in the East. Like I said we'll see how it all shakes out by US Thanksgiving.

[Vni]

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We should've kept Thomas Bryant over him. He's a better shooter, rebounder & is slightly younger.

I don't know, Bryant looked really awkward against NBA competion. I liked him as a prospect but he had ways to go.

[Majingir]

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Unless OG truly breaks out. Same team. They aren't getting past Boston. Milwaukee, Indiana, 76ers are equal if not better.

And you are putting all your eggs in the basket. Hoping Kawhi is still Kawhi. Even with a career year from Kawhi. How much better is Toronto?

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OG breaking out is a hope of theirs. Doesn't mean this year, but soon. People have saying he could be THE steal of that draft.

What's worse about Raptors this year VS last if Kawhi plays? They haven't decreased anywhere, and upgraded DeRozan for Kawhi. And then the young guys get better too,and an actual 3&D guy in Green added also.

And the big point I make about this deal is that Kawhi in playoffs is gonna be better than the guy people here have called "DeFrozen". The playoffs alone is where this trade could be best evaluated. Former finals MVP and guy who improved in each playoffs he was in, or a guy known for choking year after year?

Kawhi could miss entire regular season, return for playoffs and take them to NBA finals and I'd call that a good trade.

[ojandpizza]

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Unless OG truly breaks out. Same team. They aren't getting past Boston. Milwaukee, Indiana, 76ers are equal if not better.

And you are putting all your eggs in the basket. Hoping Kawhi is still Kawhi. Even with a career year from Kawhi. How much better is Toronto?

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Kawhi getting 100% back to that one year he had 2 seasons ago I still don’t see them for sure beating the teams you listed. If they slip to 4 or 5 I think whichever of those teams are the other could realistically knock them out in the first round.. and then they’ll lose Kawhi for nothing.




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[dubcity]

Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

Raptors can't beat Indy or Milwaukee? Bucks were a 7th seed last year, and they lost to a team that lost to a one-man LeBron squad. But I guess since we're basically in regular season mode we're gonna do the Giannis hype thing again.

[d11king]

Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

Some Lakers fans were hoping that he got the deal that went to Beasley.

Most Laker fans are ******** afffffffff

[Shadow]

Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

I don't know, Bryant looked really awkward against NBA competion. I liked him as a prospect but he had ways to go.

idk but i like Zubac

[BleacherBum2310]

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I personally don't see the point in the move the Raptors made. **** over Derozan. Sign a diva. Unless OG truly breaks out. Same team. They aren't getting past Boston. Milwaukee, Indiana, 76ers are equal if not better.

And you are putting all your eggs in the basket. Hoping Kawhi is still Kawhi. Even with a career year from Kawhi. How much better is Toronto?

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ehh the only team for sure better with a healthy Kawhi is Celtics and some (not on here likes them better than Boston. That's ambitious but i've seen it. but I think they are def better than the rest.

I think it's an obvious move for them. I don't think much of Derozan... It's not like they didn't give it time.

[King_B_Mack]

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OG breaking out is a hope of theirs. Doesn't mean this year, but soon. People have saying he could be THE steal of that draft.

What's worse about Raptors this year VS last if Kawhi plays? They haven't decreased anywhere, and upgraded DeRozan for Kawhi. And then the young guys get better too,and an actual 3&D guy in Green added also.

And the big point I make about this deal is that Kawhi in playoffs is gonna be better than the guy people here have called "DeFrozen". The playoffs alone is where this trade could be best evaluated. Former finals MVP and guy who improved in each playoffs he was in, or a guy known for choking year after year?

Kawhi could miss entire regular season, return for playoffs and take them to NBA finals and I'd call that a good trade.

Then they need to be drug tested and banned from basketball talk forever. How’s he going to be the steal of a draft that Tatum, Mitchell, Markkanen and Kuzma all failed to go number 1 in and only one of them went top 3? Just because people say something doesn’t make it a credible statement.



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[ojandpizza]

Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

Mitchell wasn’t even taken in the top 10.. any argument for someone other than him being the steal of the draft is a poor one.


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[redsox4evur]

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Mitchell wasn’t even taken in the top 10.. any argument for someone other than him being the steal of the draft is a poor one.


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Mitchell was the 2nd to last lottery pick and was arguably the best player from this draft last season, I'll you debate him or Tatum on your own time. There is no bigger steal than Mitchell in that draft.