NBA Draft 2019

[jeebs9]

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Still, he wasn't an efficient player. On the season he shot 36.9% from the floor 38.8% from inside the arc. In the tournament he shot 34.9% from the floor and 33.3% from inside the arc so he was actually worse in the Big Dance. That's heinous.

Cuse just got hot at the right time; they'd lost 5 of 6 going into the tournament and were 19-13. Wasn't that the year there was a bunch of controversy about them making the field? Even in their biggest win vs Virginia and Richardon's best scoring output of the tournament, he shot 37.5% en route to 23 points.

Yeah man... Throwing a lot numbers at me lol. JK Keep them coming. They Always puts me in my place. But I still think he's young. I've said this many times in here. You got to give these guys a chance to develop. I'd wait until year 5-6 before passing final judgement.

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[jeebs9]

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Yes all of that is true. The level of tournament success that we've had these past few years when the team's overall play has fallen off so far from its Big East days has been really bizarre lol. Malachi was another one of those guys where he looked the part but it just never really worked on anything remotely close to a consistent basis. Oshae Brissett is that way too, but draft analysts aren't getting tricked by him like they were with Malachi.

OMG Brissett. That's like Battle entered the draft the other day. Now he's going to be pretty bad lol. Definitely g league or overseas.

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[jeebs9]

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He just updated his big board. Has Jerome #30 on the big board and Edwards #25 on the big board now.



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Will probably go higher if workouts play out well. I like Ty. Solid defender. Great shooter. Obviously reminds me me of Lumber Joe (Harris).

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[jeebs9]

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Ehh and Yeah that guy... How do you guys feel about Nasir Little? We haven't talked much about him.

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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Ehh and Yeah that guy... How do you guys feel about Nasir Little? We haven't talked much about him.

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I think the only games I caught of UNC this year were the game against Syracuse and the Auburn game and I don't really remember him doing anything in either of them lol

[jeebs9]

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I think the only games I caught of UNC this year were the game against Syracuse and the Auburn game and I don't really remember him doing anything in either of them lol

hahaha I was about to say the same thing. But I've seen more UNC games. Just don't have much to go off of.

[Rocky]

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Ehh and Yeah that guy... How do you guys feel about Nasir Little? We haven't talked much about him.

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I've seen about 30 or so UNC games this year. Little reminds me of a Jeff Green or a Josh Jackson. Excellent body type and athleticism but it is gonna take awhile for him to put all his skills together (if ever). He's just wildly inconsistent.

He should've probably never been rated as high as he is but he put a string of great games together in all-star games which is probably where he's best at. In a structured defense however, he misses tons of assignments and picks up all types of cheap fouls. On offense, his handles need a ton of work. He does have a good pull up jumper and can finish well but again his court sense and handles make it hard for him to even a second option on offense.

[ehh]

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Ehh and Yeah that guy... How do you guys feel about Nasir Little? We haven't talked much about him.

I keep thinking about his potential as a smallball 4 in the NBA. I think of him in a Rondae Hollis-Jefferson role, who measured at 6'5.5" with a 7'2" wingspan at his combine--Little is supposedly 6'6" with a 7'1" wingspan-- plus RHJ and Little have nearly identical college DRB% and TRB%. Both are around 220 lbs.

Little bulked up a bit at UNC, I'm fairly certain his best path to success is to stay on that route and try to be a smallball four. His shot is smooth with sound mechanics and should improve. Him as a wing/perimeter player, there isn't a ton of potential there in the NBA; I don't think he's skilled enough. He can't pass at all and isn't great off the dribble unless he's attacking a closeout. Him as a smallball 4, I'm intrigued.

He's one of those guys whose highlights look fantastic and lowlights look scary. He's the biggest wildcard in the draft after Bol Bol. His physical profile is great. He doesn't appear to have any delusions about what he is at least. He plays within himself and bought into Roy's system at UNC. He came off the bench. He played the 4 and was the PnR big/roll man often enough. He crashes the offensive glass. He's tough.

Like most young guys, he's a lazy/bad off-ball defender but has potential as a switchable defender. Like Reddish, Little is invisible for long stretches on the floor. Part of that is on him, part of that is UNC's style of play.

He's an enigma without a high ceiling but I think he has a place in the NBA. I'd say late lottery to mid-first for him. If I'm a team in the 12-17 range who plays at a fast pace or plays small, he's near the top of my board.

[redsrule]

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Wow I haven't posted in this thread at all. I know I'm not on OS much anymore but that surprises me.

The fact that people think Reddish is still a top 5 pick is astounding to me. He doesn't shoot well. He turns the ball over at a staggering rate. He doesn't rebound well despite good measurements. He's a good, not great athlete.
I think part of his problem was he was a bad fit on a team as a 3rd wheel, but he still had a very high USG% for Duke and was awful.

After watching too much college ball this year it's a good thing Zion and Ja broke out because otherwise this draft would rival the 2000 draft in terms of quality imo.

[jeebs9]

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I've seen about 30 or so UNC games this year. Little reminds me of a Jeff Green or a Josh Jackson. Excellent body type and athleticism but it is gonna take awhile for him to put all his skills together (if ever). He's just wildly inconsistent.

He should've probably never been rated as high as he is but he put a string of great games together in all-star games which is probably where he's best at. In a structured defense however, he misses tons of assignments and picks up all types of cheap fouls. On offense, his handles need a ton of work. He does have a good pull up jumper and can finish well but again his court sense and handles make it hard for him to even a second option on offense.

Agree

Wow I haven't posted in this thread at all. I know I'm not on OS much anymore but that surprises me.

The fact that people think Reddish is still a top 5 pick is astounding to me. He doesn't shoot well. He turns the ball over at a staggering rate. He doesn't rebound well despite good measurements. He's a good, not great athlete.
I think part of his problem was he was a bad fit on a team as a 3rd wheel, but he still had a very high USG% for Duke and was awful.

After watching too much college ball this year it's a good thing Zion and Ja broke out because otherwise this draft would rival the 2000 draft in terms of quality imo.

I can understand the dislike of Cam Reddish game. But like I've said. He went from a ball dominate player to being a third wheel off the ball. I think learning to play off the ball takes a few years to understand. He's had to attack close outs. When he's use to dribbling off pick and rolls and iso's. You play besides Zion (stat wise could probably be the best ever) and RJ (We don't even have to get into that). I think he also need to get stronger.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Wow I haven't posted in this thread at all. I know I'm not on OS much anymore but that surprises me.

The fact that people think Reddish is still a top 5 pick is astounding to me. He doesn't shoot well. He turns the ball over at a staggering rate. He doesn't rebound well despite good measurements. He's a good, not great athlete.
I think part of his problem was he was a bad fit on a team as a 3rd wheel, but he still had a very high USG% for Duke and was awful.

After watching too much college ball this year it's a good thing Zion and Ja broke out because otherwise this draft would rival the 2000 draft in terms of quality imo.

Even with my hesitations about Barrett, I think I'd still lean his way over Ja as the #2 prospect. I need to see a lot more video of some of these guys still, but I think Culver is up there with Ja too. I like the little I've read and seen of Jaxson Hayes too, but that's admittedly VERY little.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I can understand the dislike of Cam Reddish game. But like I've said. He went from a ball dominate player to being a third wheel off the ball. I think learning to play off the ball takes a few years to understand. He's had to attack close outs. When he's use to dribbling off pick and rolls and iso's. You play besides Zion (stat wise could probably be the best ever) and RJ (We don't even have to get into that). I think he also need to get stronger.

Also, as much as I hate Reddish as a prospect, I would say that this year's Duke team was so lacking for shooting that I think it really affected all of them. Coach K's inability to put any shooting around those 3 guys (though Reddish was supposed to be part of addressing the shooting woes even though he shot like 30% in high school too) is one of the most confusing things I've ever seen from Coach K.

Duke has been able to get basically any recruit they wanted the past couple years; to put together a team with almost zero shooting ability in today's age is just so weird. He even pushed a kid like Jordan Tucker out, who has plenty of flaws, but in the very least, he's a good 3 point shooter.

[redsrule]

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I can understand the dislike of Cam Reddish game. But like I've said. He went from a ball dominate player to being a third wheel off the ball. I think learning to play off the ball takes a few years to understand. He's had to attack close outs. When he's use to dribbling off pick and rolls and iso's. You play besides Zion (stat wise could probably be the best ever) and RJ (We don't even have to get into that). I think he also need to get stronger.

I get that. But he was bad the summer before on the U19 Team USA tournament. His stats have never matched his skills. He was billed as a silky smooth scorer only to shoot a horrific percentage. He didn't shoot well from deep. I mentioned the third wheel thing, but he was an outright disaster this year. I don't think getting used to being a third wheel should make him that bad.

Even with my hesitations about Barrett, I think I'd still lean his way over Ja as the #2 prospect. I need to see a lot more video of some of these guys still, but I think Culver is up there with Ja too. I like the little I've read and seen of Jaxson Hayes too, but that's admittedly VERY little.

My problem with Barrett is that he's too inefficient and has a serious Kobe gene without the skills to match. When you have the best prospect in years on your team and you lose multiple games because you keep hogging the ball there's a problem there. I do think NBA floor spacing will help him a lot, but he's not a great athlete either and bullying himself into the lane will not work nearly as well. Not to mention he can't shoot off the bounce.

I love PJ as a fringe lottery pick. I think he could be Draymond Green for a team in the long run. Not a superstar but a guy who can do a lot of things. He shot 42% from deep this year and it was criminally underused by Cal.

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[jeebs9]

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Also, as much as I hate Reddish as a prospect, I would say that this year's Duke team was so lacking for shooting that I think it really affected all of them. Coach K's inability to put any shooting around those 3 guys (though Reddish was supposed to be part of addressing the shooting woes even though he shot like 30% in high school too) is one of the most confusing things I've ever seen from Coach K.

Duke has been able to get basically any recruit they wanted the past couple years; to put together a team with almost zero shooting ability in today's age is just so weird. He even pushed a kid like Jordan Tucker out, who has plenty of flaws, but in the very least, he's a good 3 point shooter.

Totally agree with the last part. I think he thought shooting would of have come from his veteran group of players like Alex O'Connell and Jack White. Alex can't play much defense like Cam or Jack White (but can shoot). Jack White had the opposite problem Where he played good defense. But was totally in his own way shooting. I feel like he missed 3's for entire month. So that's why he went to the bench. I think he tired him out in the elite 8. But he airballed the vs first shot. Missed the second. And was pulled for the game. DeLaunier just didn't shoot.

Totally agree with Tucker situation. But I feel sometimes a player comes in and he just doesn't fit in. The same could be said about the Herro stepping for the Wildcats. I forgot the player that left now.

[jeebs9]

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Also Zion is playing basketball... Jeeezz

Back at it again

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