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  • goledensilence
    Pro
    • Jul 2012
    • 533

    #661
    Re: NBA Draft 2019

    Originally posted by 23
    So Zion wasnt unhappy when he saw who got the #1 2 and 3 picks

    2nd, they took him to interview with Rachel Nichols

    Media lied saying he was unhappy, yet he was smiling

    Then said he was whisked away by his team which didnt happen either


    All of these armchairs trying to tell this man whats best for his career and trying to control it to the point theyre mad is absolutely ridiculous.

    Whats going on here is monumentally embarassing
    Don't understand how people could believe the b.s. that was being reported in the first place. You mean to tell me that a kid that was born & raised in the deep south and played college ball in the deep south, is upset at the fact that he's going to be drafted #1 by a pro team in the deep south?!?! *kanye west voice* "how Sway, yall don't have the answers!"
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    • lilteapot
      MVP
      • Aug 2013
      • 4550

      #662
      Re: NBA Draft 2019

      I do NOT trust AD to re-sign with the Knicks if we trade for him. To me, you avoid trading the #3 pick at all costs. Seen this story all too often. If free agents want to come here, then let them come. Otherwise, forget mortgaging the future.

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      • jeremym480
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        • Oct 2008
        • 18198

        #663
        Re: NBA Draft 2019

        Originally posted by lilteapot
        I do NOT trust AD to re-sign with the Knicks if we trade for him. To me, you avoid trading the #3 pick at all costs. Seen this story all too often. If free agents want to come here, then let them come. Otherwise, forget mortgaging the future.

        If AD goes to the Knicks or Celtics or any other team, then there's no guarantee that the Lakers or Clippers (or wherever he wants to go to) will have cap space next season.

        I suppose one of them could offer one-year deals to a bunch of players like the Lakers did last year. However, I don't see any top guys like Kawhi, Butler, Kemba, etc. taking a one year deal. I also don't see 34/35-year old Lebron teaming up with a bunch of young guys and misfits for the second straight year.

        That's why I say if you have what it takes for AD then you go for it regardless of his contract situation. You get him, try to win him over and hope that a better option doesn't open up for him next offseason. A player of his age and caliber doesn't become too often so you have to "shoot your shot".
        Last edited by jeremym480; 05-17-2019, 01:52 PM.
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        • DieHardYankee26
          BING BONG
          • Feb 2008
          • 10178

          #664
          Re: NBA Draft 2019

          Originally posted by lilteapot
          I do NOT trust AD to re-sign with the Knicks if we trade for him. To me, you avoid trading the #3 pick at all costs. Seen this story all too often. If free agents want to come here, then let them come. Otherwise, forget mortgaging the future.
          The only way we can get AD is to sign the free agents first. Either we get KD and Kyrie in which case the future is now and there's nothing to mortgage, or we strike out and keep going how we are. To get him we would have to first create an environment he'd want to stay in to begin with, I'm not worried on that end. It's more likely than anything we won't have anything to worry about and keep trucking with what we have.
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          • areobee401
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2006
            • 16771

            #665
            Re: NBA Draft 2019

            Fingers crossed Kyrie signs with the Knicks and they trade for AD too.
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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #666
              Re: NBA Draft 2019

              Originally posted by jeremym480
              If AD goes to the Knicks or Celtics or any other team, then there's no guarantee that the Lakers or Clippers (or whoever he wants to go to) will have cap space next season.

              I suppose one of them could offer one-year deals to a bunch of players like the Lakers did last year. However, I don't see any top guys like Kawhi, Butler, Kemba, etc. taking a one year deal. I also don't see 34/35-year old Lebron teaming up with a bunch of young guys and misfits for the second straight year.

              That's why I say if you have what it takes for AD then you go for it regardless of his contract situation. You get him, try to win him over and hope that a better option doesn't open up for him next offseason. A player of his age and caliber doesn't become too often so you have to "shoot your shot".
              I think the Lakers can afford him the next season even with a Kawhi-like contract, everyone on the team besides LeBron and Bonga could potentially have their contracts off the books.

              I think a lot of it also depends on what you have currently. What if RJ Barrett is the best player in this draft? You trade off 10+ possible seasons of having him on your team with the hopes that you get more than just 1 from Davis. I think if they 100% have other stars singing this summer, and they think Davis will stay, then it makes sense to make the trade and try to win. Otherwise, I'm not sold on them risking trying to convince him to stay. Similar to Boston, if Kyrie bounces there isn't much of a reason to trade off the young pieces for AD.

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              • jeremym480
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                • Oct 2008
                • 18198

                #667
                Re: NBA Draft 2019

                Originally posted by areobee401
                Fingers crossed Kyrie signs with the Knicks and they trade for AD too.

                I'm here for the .00000001% chance that Kyrie, AD and KD all form a super team in Boston. Make it happen, Danny!
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                • jeremym480
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                  • Oct 2008
                  • 18198

                  #668
                  Re: NBA Draft 2019

                  Originally posted by ojandpizza
                  I think the Lakers can afford him the next season even with a Kawhi-like contract, everyone on the team besides LeBron and Bonga could potentially have their contracts off the books.

                  I think a lot of it also depends on what you have currently. What if RJ Barrett is the best player in this draft? You trade off 10+ possible seasons of having him on your team with the hopes that you get more than just 1 from Davis. I think if they 100% have other stars singing this summer, and they think Davis will stay, then it makes sense to make the trade and try to win. Otherwise, I'm not sold on them risking trying to convince him to stay. Similar to Boston, if Kyrie bounces there isn't much of a reason to trade off the young pieces for AD.

                  Yeah, I think NY only deals for Davis if they pretty much know that they have another star (or stars) coming. Would AD leave Kyrie/KD for Lebron/Kawhi? I don't know, I guess it depends on how much success that they have but I think that's a chance you take.
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                  • Smallville102001
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                    • Mar 2015
                    • 6542

                    #669
                    Re: NBA Draft 2019

                    Originally posted by jeremym480
                    If AD goes to the Knicks or Celtics or any other team, then there's no guarantee that the Lakers or Clippers (or wherever he wants to go to) will have cap space next season.

                    I suppose one of them could offer one-year deals to a bunch of players like the Lakers did last year. However, I don't see any top guys like Kawhi, Butler, Kemba, etc. taking a one year deal. I also don't see 34/35-year old Lebron teaming up with a bunch of young guys and misfits for the second straight year.

                    That's why I say if you have what it takes for AD then you go for it regardless of his contract situation. You get him, try to win him over and hope that a better option doesn't open up for him next offseason. A player of his age and caliber doesn't become too often so you have to "shoot your shot".
                    Lakers have almost enough cap space for 2 max guys though would just need to make a few small moves to have that space. If I am the lakers I try to get AD in a trade and than get Kemba to have a big 3 of James, AD and Kemba.

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                    • TMagic
                      G.O.A.T.
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 7550

                      #670
                      Re: NBA Draft 2019

                      Originally posted by Smallville102001
                      Lakers have almost enough cap space for 2 max guys though would just need to make a few small moves to have that space. If I am the lakers I try to get AD in a trade and than get Kemba to have a big 3 of James, AD and Kemba.
                      How? We're sitting on about 39 mil. Max contracts are worth about 30 mil.

                      I'm honestly asking. I have zero clue about how salaries and contracts work at all. Which is why I just let you guys have fun with all that stuff. Lol

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                      • jfsolo
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                        • May 2003
                        • 12965

                        #671
                        Re: NBA Draft 2019

                        Originally posted by TMagic
                        How? We're sitting on about 39 mil. Max contracts are worth about 30 mil.

                        I'm honestly asking. I have zero clue about how salaries and contracts work at all. Which is why I just let you guys have fun with all that stuff. Lol

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                        • ojandpizza
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #672
                          Re: NBA Draft 2019

                          With next years projections jumping to 109 that means the Lakers are more at 43ish, they can afford two max contracts, but only if Lonzo/BI are traded to acquire one of them. That would get them up over 50 mil minus the player they trade for.

                          No way they can sign two max guys outright. In a scenario where they trade for someone like AD, or Bradley Beal, whoever, they should still have 25-30 left over to sign another guy.


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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #673
                            Re: NBA Draft 2019

                            Originally posted by TMagic
                            How? We're sitting on about 39 mil. Max contracts are worth about 30 mil.

                            I'm honestly asking. I have zero clue about how salaries and contracts work at all. Which is why I just let you guys have fun with all that stuff. Lol

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                            Yeah, the projected cap is $109 mm in 2019/20.


                            The Lakers are projected to have around $66 mm in committed salary not including their picks.


                            If they sign a star like Kawhi Leonard, it would add about $35 mm. So they would be at $101 mm.



                            Because Anthony Davis will make $27 mm, the Lakers will need to send about $20 mm in salary to make the deal work.


                            So bye bye their 4th pick ($4.5 mm), Ball, and Ingram. Then I think they will need to decide on two of the following four: Hart, Kuzma, Wagner, Bonga. And we know who the two the Pelicans will want in a deal.


                            Good luck to the Lakers if they make this move. They will need a ridiculous amount of minimum contracts to have a team capable of providing depth.
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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29807

                              #674
                              Re: NBA Draft 2019

                              I think the Lakers best move would be to shoot your shot at Kawhi/Klay/Kyrie without losing anyone, if it happens then you can explore trades.

                              If none of those guys work out, then explore a trade for AD or Beal, if that works out rather than trying to completely clean house and offer someone else a max I think fill the roster with guys like Noel, Millsap, Danny Green, Redick, Ross, Aminu, Ariza, Collison, Robin Lopez, Ed Davis, Wes Matthews, Dedmon etc..

                              If they were able to keep Kuz and Hart for example and add 2-3 of those guys they could build a pretty good team that is competing now and still improving.

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                              • Smallville102001
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 6542

                                #675
                                Re: NBA Draft 2019

                                Originally posted by TMagic
                                How? We're sitting on about 39 mil. Max contracts are worth about 30 mil.

                                I'm honestly asking. I have zero clue about how salaries and contracts work at all. Which is why I just let you guys have fun with all that stuff. Lol

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                                I thought it was closer to 50 million instead of 39 million and I known they have a lot of guys that were on 1 year deals that money could come off the books.

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