2019 Offseason Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

2019 Offseason Thread

Who was trying to go to the Clippers like that?

As far as “big name” players, nobody but then again it wasn’t like they were hitting FA like that back then.

But then again, which ones were begging to go to the Knicks in that same timeframe?

I mean, no player is ever gonna say "I would love to play for ___" if they aren't already on the team. I've never heard a player say "I'm on the Celtics but I'd love to play for the Lakers/Knicks/Clippers" it just wouldnt make sense unless the player is begging to get fined or burn bridges. That's why all we have is hearsay.

Dwight Howard did.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2019 Offseason Thread

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[lilteapot]

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As far as “big name” players, nobody but then again it wasn’t like they were hitting FA like that back then.

But then again, which ones were begging to go to the Knicks in that same timeframe?



Dwight Howard did.

He also burned a ton of bridges on his way outta Orlando so yeah my point still stands

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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But that’s still disregarding the fact that the Clippers have enough cap space to sign Kawhi and another superstar. So if Kawhi signs there it’s likely with the idea that they’re getting someone else.


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Which was exactly what I asked because that was pretty much my argument.

Just like it would be silly to assume that team with Kawhi/Lou would be better than a team with Kawhi/Lebron, it would be also be silly to assume that the Clippers wouldn’t add anyone else to their squad.

That was why I responded the way I did in the first place. And now I see that’s how we got here in the first place.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2019 Offseason Thread

He also burned a ton of bridges on his way outta Orlando so yeah my point still stands

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What bridges did he burn exactly?

Teams were still signing him and going after him despite that.

[lilteapot]

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What bridges did he burn exactly?

You want me to draw a map?

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[ProfessaPackMan]

2019 Offseason Thread

You want me to draw a map?

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I take it you didn’t catch my edit.

He wanted to get traded to the Nets and said so specifically.

It was going to happen until he made that stupid decision after the Spurs game and waived his opt out clause. Which pretty much killed any chance of getting to go where he wanted. He then wanted to go to LA and that’s where he ended up at.

Left LA and got paid in Houston, got paid in Atlanta, Charlotte and DC.

So please tell me what bridges did he burn even after that crazy night in 2012? If you wanna draw me a map, please do.

Edit: If you’re talking about ever having a number/jersey retired then I would still disagree. All he needs to do is apologize, do a little goodwill/community service for the Magic and all will be forgiven. Not to mention that enough time will pass by for both sides to forgive and move on as well.

[TMagic]

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But that’s still disregarding the fact that the Clippers have enough cap space to sign Kawhi and another superstar. So if Kawhi signs there it’s likely with the idea that they’re getting someone else.


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You can't turn what he's saying into something else he's not arguing though. Especially when he specifically stated that the clippers top to bottom are a better destination and he's just solely speaking to 2018 Lakers + Kawhi and comparing it to 2018 Clippers + Kawhi essentially.

Regardless, as far as predicting rosters are concerned... doubtful that the Clippers sign anyone as impactful as LeBron James with that extra money. Lol

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The whole argument was silly.

At least it killed a few slow hours at work on a Friday.

[lilteapot]

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I take it you didn’t catch my edit.

He wanted to get traded to the Nets and said so specifically.

It was going to happen until he made that stupid decision after the Spurs game and waived his opt out clause. Which pretty much killed any chance of getting to go where he wanted. He then wanted to go to LA and that’s where he ended up at.

Left LA and got paid in Houston, got paid in Atlanta, Charlotte and DC.

So please tell me what bridges did he burn even after that crazy night in 2012? If you wanna draw me a map, please do.

Edit: If you’re talking about ever having a number/jersey retired then I would still disagree. All he needs to do is apologize, do a little goodwill/community service for the Magic and all will be forgiven. Not to mention that enough time will pass by for both sides to forgive and move on as well.

To me, getting my coach fired by going behind his back and then demanding a trade anyway, putting everyone through a soap opera season would never rub my teammates or the organization I was with the right way.

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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To me, getting my coach fired by going behind his back and then demanding a trade anyway, putting everyone through a soap opera season would never rub my teammates or the organization I was with the right way.

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I would agree with this somewhat if he was planning on coming back but he wasn’t and nobody thought he would return at the time(and even now)which is why I didn’t get your comment in the first place.

But as we’ve seen in this post-Decision NBA, time heals wounds and makes people forgive and move on. And considering he’s been gone from Orlando for 7 years(and accomplished some good things there in his time)those bridges he supposedly burned, can still be rebuilt, especially considering that the people who were around for that are gone anyway.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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From Sam Amick of The Athletic

But there’s a recent sense in Warriors circles that maybe he’ll think twice about joining them on this trek across the Bay Bridge, that this recent stretch of domination and fan appreciation might be the kind of thing that convinces him to – cue LeBron James’ personal motto that hasn’t exactly panned out in Laker Land – RWTW (Roll With The Winners).

[ojandpizza]

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Boy OJ you a trip. I really wish LeBron never got hurt last year cause y'all dudes cling to that 1/2 game seed like it was the end all be all. They literally only needed to lose 2 games to fall all the way to 8th or 9th in the conference and injury or not they're chemistry issues were going to happen with the optics of LeBron and Magic trying to trade half the squad for AD. Even despite all that LeBron came back in enough time get that team to the playoffs and it STILL didn't happen. Period. End of story.



But beyond that. You're funny, I literally came at you during the year because I had to listen to y'all riding Bron jock for 9 years that you could put LeBron on ANY team in the league and he'd carry them to the playoffs. Not him and another star, not him and any additions, but to ANY team in the league as they were constructed yes even trash like the Kings during that timeframe. Then when the time came to prove that mess, your tune changed to injuries and how LeBron is old now and not his young self from that time, but now you're trying to tell us that a 35 year old LeBron who has suffered the first major injury and real missed time of his career on a dysfunctional team is better than Kawhi teaming with Gallo, Lou Will, a dog defender like Beverly and 61 million dollars in cap space and we're stupid to think otherwise? Yeah okay OJ. Okay.

The idea of LeBron carrying any team to the playoffs was assuming he and half of his team weren’t missing 20 games a piece. You yourself claimed that missing Draymond for ONE GAME was equal to the Cavs missing Kyrie and Love for the whole series the year before.. surely if that’s your logic it can’t change suddenly to where the Lakers missing their best passer and defender for half the year, missing their best rim protector for a couple weeks, missing their leader scorer, rebounder, assist man for nearly 30 games, their 2nd best scorer for 30 games, and their 3rd leading scorer for 12 games, and their starting lineup only get to play a 4th of the season together wasn’t going to change the outcome of that a bit..

LeBron taking a team to the playoffs is based on him being available. He missed nearly 30 games and wasn’t right for a few weeks after he returned anyways to the point that Lakers media was leaking they were concerned with how healthy he was.

But yes, LeBron, Lonzo, Kuz, Kawhi and whatever else they had because they also have more cap space and tons of trade chips is significantly better than Lou, Gallo, Pat, Kawhi and whatever other free agent isn’t going there..




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[ojandpizza]

2019 Offseason Thread

Y’all playing this “the Clippers could sign someone else” game like the Lakers don’t have 50+ mil in cap space as well.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

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Y’all paying this “the Clippers could sign someone else” game like the Lakers don’t have 50+ mil in cap space as well.


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If you had simply said “Lebron, Kawhi and other signings would be better than....”, I wouldn’t have even responded to your original post.

Arguments all over the place because you’re saying like 20 different things while everyone else are just arguing 2, lol.