Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

[Flyboy]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

They wanted both Tins, Jones and I think one other player, and while I would have loved to have T-Mac, I wouldnt want to give up almost half of our starting line up and some of our bench

Ah, I didn't know that -- Indy was right for not taking it. I think Artest/F. Jones for McGrady would have been a good trade, though. It wouldn't rape the Pacers too much.

[Skins4Life]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

Ah, I didn't know that -- Indy was right for not taking it. I think Artest/F. Jones for McGrady would have been a good trade, though. It wouldn't rape the Pacers too much.

I hate looking back down memory lane.

We will never know what was really offered,but I asked some of my Pacers friends and here is what they remember from the off season

It was Artest and Bender for McGrady, there were rumors of diff. players, but that's the one I think was true.

believe it was Ronnie, Bender, and Al for TMac. And seeing as how Ron is out for the season, Bender has been out forever, and Al is now a Hawk...

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[Skins4Life]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

Ah, I didn't know that -- Indy was right for not taking it. I think Artest/F. Jones for McGrady would have been a good trade, though. It wouldn't rape the Pacers too much.

I hate looking back down memory lane.

We will never know what was really offered,but I asked some of my Pacers friends and here is what they remember from the off season

It was Artest and Bender for McGrady, there were rumors of diff. players, but that's the one I think was true.

believe it was Ronnie, Bender, and Al for TMac. And seeing as how Ron is out for the season, Bender has been out forever, and Al is now a Hawk...

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[Skins4Life]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

This is some speculation from last June about McGrady coming here.

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"We could make it work, absolutely," Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh said Tuesday. "I have spoken to somebody in their organization, and I sensed there was interest there. What they're telling me is, there's a good chance he's going to be traded. So, yeah, a player like that out there, we're definitely going to be interested."

How to do it?

McGrady's salary cap number is around $14.5 million. The Pacers would have to send Orlando players whose combined salaries fall within 15 percent of that number. So it's like this: Start with Al Harrington ($6.3 million), who will get traded in the media no fewer than 50 times this summer. Then it's an issue of deciding who that second player might be.

Jonathan Bender ($6.5 million)? That would be my preference, but it might not be Orlando's choice.

Ron Artest ($6.2 million)? That would be hard to swallow, but for McGrady, it's a deal I'd make, however grudgingly.

It's a price worth paying to have the Shaq-and-Kobe of the East.

(And no, I don't think the Magic would happily take Austin Croshere and his big contract off Walsh's hands. If we're going to talk about trades, let's talk about ones that might work for both teams.)

"Once everybody agrees on the principals, our two guys for their one, you can make it work," Walsh said. "It wouldn't be that hard."

For his part, McGrady, who is friends with Jermaine O'Neal, has mentioned Indiana as one of the teams he'd be willing to join as part of a sign-and-trade deal. The only caveat for the Pacers: Making sure McGrady would be willing to sign a long-term deal to remain here. Indiana isn't going to mortgage its future for a one-year rental.

Now, keep in mind, you can throw just about anybody's name out there -- George Mikan, for instance -- and Walsh will say, "Sure, it's always worth following up with a phone call." And rumors, big ones, are born.

But this is not one of those.

The Pacers are interested in McGrady, and should be interested in McGrady. And Walsh made it clear Tuesday, he and Larry Bird are willing to move anybody except O'Neal if it means making a deal that catapults them past Detroit.

"Is anybody untouchable?" Walsh was asked.

"No," he said. "No one. Except Jermaine. He's our franchise player."

Not Artest?

"No," Walsh said.

Not Bender?

"No."

[Skins4Life]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

This is some speculation from last June about McGrady coming here.

************************************************** *****

"We could make it work, absolutely," Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh said Tuesday. "I have spoken to somebody in their organization, and I sensed there was interest there. What they're telling me is, there's a good chance he's going to be traded. So, yeah, a player like that out there, we're definitely going to be interested."

How to do it?

McGrady's salary cap number is around $14.5 million. The Pacers would have to send Orlando players whose combined salaries fall within 15 percent of that number. So it's like this: Start with Al Harrington ($6.3 million), who will get traded in the media no fewer than 50 times this summer. Then it's an issue of deciding who that second player might be.

Jonathan Bender ($6.5 million)? That would be my preference, but it might not be Orlando's choice.

Ron Artest ($6.2 million)? That would be hard to swallow, but for McGrady, it's a deal I'd make, however grudgingly.

It's a price worth paying to have the Shaq-and-Kobe of the East.

(And no, I don't think the Magic would happily take Austin Croshere and his big contract off Walsh's hands. If we're going to talk about trades, let's talk about ones that might work for both teams.)

"Once everybody agrees on the principals, our two guys for their one, you can make it work," Walsh said. "It wouldn't be that hard."

For his part, McGrady, who is friends with Jermaine O'Neal, has mentioned Indiana as one of the teams he'd be willing to join as part of a sign-and-trade deal. The only caveat for the Pacers: Making sure McGrady would be willing to sign a long-term deal to remain here. Indiana isn't going to mortgage its future for a one-year rental.

Now, keep in mind, you can throw just about anybody's name out there -- George Mikan, for instance -- and Walsh will say, "Sure, it's always worth following up with a phone call." And rumors, big ones, are born.

But this is not one of those.

The Pacers are interested in McGrady, and should be interested in McGrady. And Walsh made it clear Tuesday, he and Larry Bird are willing to move anybody except O'Neal if it means making a deal that catapults them past Detroit.

"Is anybody untouchable?" Walsh was asked.

"No," he said. "No one. Except Jermaine. He's our franchise player."

Not Artest?

"No," Walsh said.

Not Bender?

"No."

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Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

You can thank Weisbrod for that not happening. Carlisle loves Tmac and I think he could have helped the team out alot, but hockeyman was on another road as far as trying to milk teams beyond reasonable.

Do I blame him, no, but you still have to be realistic at the same time.

[23]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

You can thank Weisbrod for that not happening. Carlisle loves Tmac and I think he could have helped the team out alot, but hockeyman was on another road as far as trying to milk teams beyond reasonable.

Do I blame him, no, but you still have to be realistic at the same time.

[Flyboy]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

*shudders at what O'Neal & McGrady could have been*

Oh well -- but back to the topic: I think if Indy pulls the trigger on the Baron trade it would very interesting. I think they are a force in the East even if they lose their defensive star in Artest who was going to be out for the season anyway.

[Flyboy]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

*shudders at what O'Neal & McGrady could have been*

Oh well -- but back to the topic: I think if Indy pulls the trigger on the Baron trade it would very interesting. I think they are a force in the East even if they lose their defensive star in Artest who was going to be out for the season anyway.

[Kashanova]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

Artest got a better chance of going to ny in my opinion

[Kashanova]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

Artest got a better chance of going to ny in my opinion

[Skins4Life]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

There has been a lot of talk about RA in NY


As for the trade, I got it confirmed it was Artest and Bender for McGrady.

[Skins4Life]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

There has been a lot of talk about RA in NY


As for the trade, I got it confirmed it was Artest and Bender for McGrady.

[Brankles]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

Jameer, Ron, Grant Hill, Al Harrington, and Dwight Howard
with Bender, Battie, Garrity, Turkoglu, and Juwan Howard coming off the bench.

Not bad. Too bad Weisbrod likes "tough guys" who don't play "defense".


Holla

[Brankles]

Re: Trade Rumor: Artest for B. Davis

Jameer, Ron, Grant Hill, Al Harrington, and Dwight Howard
with Bender, Battie, Garrity, Turkoglu, and Juwan Howard coming off the bench.

Not bad. Too bad Weisbrod likes "tough guys" who don't play "defense".


Holla