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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #61
    Re: NBA Draft 2021

    Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
    Not that it's saying all that much, but this kid is easily the most excited I've been about a Syracuse recruit since Tyler Lydon and MCW. Obviously neither of them panned out in the NBA, but I think this kid has 1st round potential like they did.



    All these passes are from the same game and it's just beautiful to watch.



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    Tyler Lydon... Jeeez lol.

    But yeah I like what I've seen. I need some bigger games and a jumper.
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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47568

      #62
      Re: NBA Draft 2021

      Scottie Barnes



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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #63
        Re: NBA Draft 2021

        11K likes, 180 comments - frankievision on December 11, 2020: "Luka Garza DOMINATED tonight vs Iowa St scoring 34 pts (13-14 FG) in JUST 17 MINUTES 👀👀 Hawkeyes beat Iowa St 105-77...should they be ranked higher than 3??".


        In 17 minutes. I'm sticking to my Chris Kaman with a gun lol
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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #64
          Re: NBA Draft 2021

          Dude moves so well in the half-court, he never stops. I legitimately have never watched a player as a good as him and wondered if he can even play at the next level or not.

          Even his bad game against UNC he was making passes out of double teams all game and they blew them out because of it.

          I still see lots of Joker, Boogie, Gasol in his game but the way he’s so grounded and just bounces guys off his shoulder under the rim to get shots off even though he can’t jump kinda reminds me of ZBo even.

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          • DamnYanks2
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 20794

            #65
            Re: NBA Draft 2021

            Garza isn't a fluke. He's really good. He's not just a big guy overpowering dudes in college with little skill. He's really skilled. I like his motor. He has vision for a big. You see he can stretch the floor. He has very little athleticism. But nba scouts value that **** too much anyway.

            Garza is a sound big man. I believe the hype. He could be a steal in a deep draft.

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            • redsrule
              All Star
              • Apr 2010
              • 9396

              #66
              Re: NBA Draft 2021

              Originally posted by ojandpizza
              Dude moves so well in the half-court, he never stops. I legitimately have never watched a player as a good as him and wondered if he can even play at the next level or not.

              Even his bad game against UNC he was making passes out of double teams all game and they blew them out because of it.

              I still see lots of Joker, Boogie, Gasol in his game but the way he’s so grounded and just bounces guys off his shoulder under the rim to get shots off even though he can’t jump kinda reminds me of ZBo even.
              I'm not sure there is a good example for Garza. He's really good at the college level. But he's not the athlete Boogie/Gasol were and Jokic is special passing the ball.

              I would bet he ends up being a decent role player at the minimum though. He's really well rounded offensively. Just not sure who he can guard in the NBA.
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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #67
                Re: NBA Draft 2021

                Originally posted by redsrule
                I'm not sure there is a good example for Garza.
                There isn't, that's why I'm always naming off some mixture of 3-4 guys every time I try to think of how his game could translate.

                He's really good at the college level. But he's not the athlete Boogie/Gasol were and Jokic is special passing the ball.

                I would bet he ends up being a decent role player at the minimum though. He's really well rounded offensively. Just not sure who he can guard in the NBA.
                He's definitely not as athletic as DPOTY Gasol was, but he might be compared to the Gasol we see now and have seen the last 3-4 years. Which is more so what I was getting at questioning if he could play in the modern NBA not necessarily will he be prime Marc Gasol at some point.

                I think he mostly reminds me of some combination of older ZBo and Jokic. Obviously isn't the passer Joker is, I don't think he needs to be. I don't think many teams are looking to target big, slow, point-centers.

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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #68
                  Re: NBA Draft 2021

                  Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                  Garza isn't a fluke. He's really good. He's not just a big guy overpowering dudes in college with little skill. He's really skilled. I like his motor. He has vision for a big. You see he can stretch the floor. He has very little athleticism. But nba scouts value that **** too much anyway.

                  Garza is a sound big man. I believe the hype. He could be a steal in a deep draft.

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                  Yep, what it basically comes down to for me is anybody else with his blend of talent/skill is a number 1 pick, no brainer top 5 pick. He just has so many athletic limitations for what the modern NBA requires. Back when guys like Ostertag and Reeves were top 5 picks he would be a unanimous number 1, his offensive game is, so far, just as dominant as the Zion and KDs of college hoops.

                  I think of teams like the Bucks, Clippers, Lakers, Jazz, who could be like we need you to play 15 minutes a night backing up Lopez, Zubac, Gasol, Gobert, and I think he would bring tremendous fire power to a contending team late in the first. Massive steal for a team like that.

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #69
                    Re: NBA Draft 2021

                    I'd say Garza is a perfect prospect for the Knicks but then I remembered he can shoot the ball.
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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #70
                      Re: NBA Draft 2021

                      I've posted above him a few times. Looking like a late first round pick for me. I like his production and blood line lol

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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #71
                        Re: NBA Draft 2021

                        I still don’t know how to feel about Harper


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                        • ehh
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 28962

                          #72
                          Re: NBA Draft 2021

                          There are going to be a lot of people who'll have Suggs at the top of their board by June.
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                          • DamnYanks2
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 20794

                            #73
                            Re: NBA Draft 2021

                            Originally posted by ehh
                            There are going to be a lot of people who'll have Suggs at the top of their board by June.
                            And rightfully so. I think Jalen Green is the real deal though. But Suggs and Green are my 1-2. And obviously that's not going out on much of a limb lol


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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #74
                              Re: NBA Draft 2021

                              I haven't gotten a chance to watch Green yet but it's interesting that this may be shaping up to be like two years ago where everyone had Barrett as the #1 before the season and he became a distant third by draft night. Wonder if the same will happen with Cade. Not that it's a knock on Cade, he's still a very good prospect.
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                              • DamnYanks2
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 20794

                                #75
                                Re: NBA Draft 2021

                                Originally posted by ehh
                                I haven't gotten a chance to watch Green yet but it's interesting that this may be shaping up to be like two years ago where everyone had Barrett as the #1 before the season and he became a distant third by draft night. Wonder if the same will happen with Cade. Not that it's a knock on Cade, he's still a very good prospect.
                                I haven't gotten a chance to see Mobley or Kuminga yet. Cade is very good and I think scouts gotta love his size. But Suggs has out played him from the eye test so far imo.

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