2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

[King_B_Mack]

2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

Lmao yeah nah we good over here fam. Mr Ruffles can stay his *** right where he at. He had his chance to be here and he passed. We’ll do the same.

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Not a bad deal for the Lakers? That’s would be ****ing robbery.

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[Master Live 013]

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Meh, LeBron and DeRozan? I'm not sure that moves the needle.

Lakers problems go beyond switching AD for DeRozan. Lakers are LeBron & AD and a bunch of garbage (sorry not sorry, THT hasn't done jack); gotta get working on the garbage.

And if you are not going to surround Bron/AD with defensive oriented personnel then get rid of Vogel.

[ggsimmonds]

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Don't like the move for either side really.

For the Lakers I think it lowers their ceiling. Yes AD is often hurt but when healthy he is still an all-NBA player who compliments LeBron well. For all of their regular season troubles this is a team I would want no part of in the playoffs if they're healthy. I do love DeRozan as a fan, but don't like a LeBron-DeRozan pairing.

For the Bulls, you finally have a reason to be excited and you blow it up by trading for Anthony Street clothes Davis? Nah, I would pass. When AD inevitably gets hurt I don't know that a Lavine-Ball lead team would be enough to hold it down and secure the playoffs. Bulls are where they're at because of DeRozan and depth and in one move they'd lose both.

If I'm the Lakers and looking to make a deal involving AD I would look to get multiple all star players instead of one all-NBA guy. Three team trade to acquire two proven producers and a "potential" guy. Front offices have to learn that you can't win championships just by hoarding stars; you need an actual team. Star(s) with complimentary pieces and role players.

[Master Live 013]

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I mean, if the Lakers are trading AD then just blow it up. LeBron wouldn't approve of an AD trade and if the team went ahead then Bron would publicly ask for a trade.

[ggsimmonds]

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I mean, if the Lakers are trading AD then just blow it up. LeBron wouldn't approve of an AD trade and if the team went ahead then Bron would publicly ask for a trade.

LeBron wouldn't ask for a trade. He structures his contracts to ensure he is never tied down to one place. He understands that a trade is of little benefit to him because the acquiring team would have to give up so much that they would be hamstrung in their ability to make LeBron friendly moves.

I seriously doubt there is any potential for AD to be traded. The quote is just a guy talking out of his rear. Its idle chatter but because he is identified as "NBA executive" people want to give it undue weight. For all we know he could be the VP of concessions.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Team Jordan, Game 7, Ryan Stone, Heavy...

[Master Live 013]

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Ummm, then we are gonna have to agree to disagree. Lakers going ahead against a explicitly directive from Commander Bron is ground for him to go nuclear, one year left in his contract or not.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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For all of their regular season troubles this is a team I would want no part of in the playoffs if they're healthy.

Fear of the Lebron going God mode based on what he’s done in the past is the only reason why anyone would say this.

Because based on how they’ve looked this year and how inconsistent they’ve been(incoming OJ essay in 3,2,1…), I’m not sure why fans of any top team would fear this current team.

[ggsimmonds]

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Fear of the Lebron going God mode based on what he’s done in the past is the only reason why anyone would say this.

Because based on how they’ve looked this year and how inconsistent they’ve been(incoming OJ essay in 3,2,1…), I’m not sure why fans of any top team would fear this current team.

I don't mean to overstate the fear factor. But if I'm any of the top 4 teams in the West*, I'd rather face any other team in the 1st round. Outside of the 1st round, then yeah Lakers would not instill any more fear than any other team remaining.

*Except Memphis because they want all the smoke

[King_B_Mack]

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I don't think anybody fears the Lakers in playoffs, that's way too strong a description for it. But I think the caution for teams would be the fact that playoff basketball is different from regular season basketball and if the Lakers are able to get in and have LeBron, AD and Russ all healthy they are still capable of making some noise in a series and possibly making a run just based on talent level alone despite the issues they've had thus far. The problem for the Lakers is that they've yet to demonstrate any ability to be healthy for any considerable length of time and if they are healthy can they put it altogether in time to win a series as a 7 or 8 seed considering the teams they'll have to face in those spots in order to start a run.

[ggsimmonds]

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Agree that fear is too strong a word. Given the choice of facing LeBron in the playoffs or not facing him I think most people would choose the second option. Going God mode in the playoffs is a habit for LeBron.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

Y’all too focused on that one word as opposed to my overall point, lol

I don't mean to overstate the fear factor. But if I'm any of the top 4 teams in the West*, I'd rather face any other team in the 1st round.

I feel you.

I just feel like it’s more how we THINK they SHOULD play as opposed to how they’ve ACTUALLY played and looked. The Lebron Factor is heavy but other than that, they need a lot of **** to go right(in comparison to the other Top 4-5 teams)for them to have a legit shot at getting to where they should be at.

Out of all the main complaints I’ve heard/read about the Lakers, it’s been:

-Vogel isn’t that good of a coach anymore and his rotations suck(every fan says this about every coach so I don’t put any stock into it)
-AD is always hurt and when he’s on the court, he wants to be Point Guard AD and not Big Man AD
-Russ playing bad

Now obviously we know that if Lebron is healthy and playing like his playoff self, they’ll have a shot but ask yourself out of those 3 I mentioned, which of those is more likely to happen? I’d put my money on 2 and 3 and if that’s the case, they’ll be first round and done for the 2nd year in a row

Of course if everything is equal, they’ll have as a good a shot as anyone…but this is Sports and we all know that all things are never equal. But if I’m Phoenix or Golden State specifically, outside of Lebron having one of his god mode-esq games, which he always has BTW, those 2 shouldn’t be concerned about them.

Talent alone doesn’t always(heavy emphasis on this word) win otherwise BK would’ve gotten farther than the 2nd round and the Suns wouldn’t have been in the Finals. Which ironically enough, a lot of people thought the Lakers would get their **** together, ride that momentum from the play in win over Golden State and take care of Phoenix on their way to the Finals until the opposite happened and surprised most people. And why? Because we all thought LA was the more talented team, they had Lebron and there was no way a Lebron led team could lose in the first round. And next thing you know, it was the other LA team playing for that Finals spot, lol.

If this was any other year, I’d be all in on “Lebron God Mode is enough for them to move thru the playoffs. But I’m 2021-22, that argument don’t hold the same amount of weight like it used to and we have evidence to support that.

OJ bout to nuke my post with an essay, I’m waiting on it haha

[Master Live 013]

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Ummmm, Lakers didn't take care of Phoenix because AD got hurt. And talent didn't take the Nets past the 2nd round because talent got hurt.

[ojandpizza]

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I’m not even sold on the Lakers making it to the play in. Roster is severely flawed.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

AD got hurt.

Water is wet.

Lakers and Nets are going to be known as the reigning “If and When” co-Champs of 2020-2022.