2023 NBA Trade Deadline

[Master Live 013]

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Ok, so the Lakers did offered the picks and the Nets said no. Come here Bron

[Master Live 013]

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Can't blame Tsai for being spiteful, I know I would

[ojandpizza]

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I think part of it is him not wanting to appease Kyrie and part of it trying to stay winning now. Russ makes more sense with KD and all kinds of shooting than he does with LAL, but no way you can play him and Ben together. Nets get a slight boost defensively with the Dallas trade too. But if more moves were in the pipeline for them having the two extra firsts from the Lakers might have been good assets for them to have.

[King_B_Mack]

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Also on the table apparently




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[Jeffx]

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Can't blame Tsai for being spiteful, I know I would

I don't blame Tsai at all. Why give that pain-in-the-azz what he wants?

[cam21224]

2023 NBA Trade Deadline

People love to rag on Kyrie about his beliefs and off the court mess, need to look further into what Tsai beliefs are away from basketball and how his company has made moves to support his way of thinking.

Just like the Favre story I wonder why certain stories get swept under the rug but then again I don’t. Good move for the Mavs though, just have to add some defense around Luka and Kyrie.

As far as him making this move to spite a player, good luck with that in the future in a player controlled league.

[jfsolo]

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I'm glad we didn't get Kyrie even though it means that we will probably be blowing it all up this offseason, i.e. Bron and AD asking for trades, it's a preferable situation to me.

[BleacherBum2310]

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Good man.

Mavs needed someone to take pressure off of Luka. I'm interested to see if Luka can adapt in ways Harden can't in just the sense of offensive style.

but, good luck with Kyrie man. I'm sure it'll work out for you when it didn't with others lol.

Lakers are toast, thank goodness.

[bigeastbumrush]

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People love to rag on Kyrie about his beliefs and off the court mess, need to look further into what Tsai beliefs are away from basketball and how his company has made moves to support his way of thinking.

Just like the Favre story I wonder why certain stories get swept under the rug but then again I don’t. Good move for the Mavs though, just have to add some defense around Luka and Kyrie.

As far as him making this move to spite a player, good luck with that in the future in a player controlled league.

[Majingir]

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Apparently Nets are trying to do Dinwiddie and draft picks for FVV.

I don't see Raptors doing that move.

[Majingir]

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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1622709297636421633?s=20&t=bFRcDkjoMQ6QBMNQhWcKmw

[ojandpizza]

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Raptors being stingy makes no sense to me. They are not a good team, they missed the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years, were a first round exit last year. Not because of injuries, not because of lack of chemistry with roster overhaul, not because of coaching. It's because the core just isn't very good.

I understand OG. I'd want multiple picks for him too. He's a legitimate 2-way wing, with great size, could easily be a DPOTY type of guy who can also get you 20ish a nigh on the other end. He could be plenty of teams "missing piece". But outside of that, treating Siakam like a tier 1 superstar, not taking first round picks for FVV.. That's wild to me.

FVV was undrafted. He's already outplayed whatever expectation they had from him and likely never becomes anything more than his is now or even get back to the player he was when he was mostly "open" because he was on the floor with Lowry, Kawhi, Siakam, etc.. He's a decent enough shooter from 3 and the FT line to not make him completely inefficient but he's still well in the bottom half of players. He's too small, and not athletic enough to finish, he's under 40% from the field overall over the past 3 seasons. Never going to be a great defender, never going to be the guy to completely run the show for you with the ball always in his hands racking up 8-10 assists a game.

He's a very smart player, understands his role, a great sorta "leader" on a team that has loads of other talent. That's his ceiling. He has no large value on bad teams, fridge teams. He's just another starting caliber guard. Toronto holding firm when they are getting thrown first round picks is silly. They are banking on Barnes becoming the next Giannis before these other guys leave or look old and it doesn't make sense.

I'm not sure if it's the Raptors front office thinking that way or just the fans/team media around the interwebz but not moving some of those guys like that for more assets, cap space, etc when you have Barnes and Siakam seems weird to me.

[King_B_Mack]

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Raptors being stingy makes no sense to me. They are not a good team, they missed the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years, were a first round exit last year. Not because of injuries, not because of lack of chemistry with roster overhaul, not because of coaching. It's because the core just isn't very good.

I understand OG. I'd want multiple picks for him too. He's a legitimate 2-way wing, with great size, could easily be a DPOTY type of guy who can also get you 20ish a nigh on the other end. He could be plenty of teams "missing piece". But outside of that, treating Siakam like a tier 1 superstar, not taking first round picks for FVV.. That's wild to me.

FVV was undrafted. He's already outplayed whatever expectation they had from him and likely never becomes anything more than his is now or even get back to the player he was when he was mostly "open" because he was on the floor with Lowry, Kawhi, Siakam, etc.. He's a decent enough shooter from 3 and the FT line to not make him completely inefficient but he's still well in the bottom half of players. He's too small, and not athletic enough to finish, he's under 40% from the field overall over the past 3 seasons. Never going to be a great defender, never going to be the guy to completely run the show for you with the ball always in his hands racking up 8-10 assists a game.

He's a very smart player, understands his role, a great sorta "leader" on a team that has loads of other talent. That's his ceiling. He has no large value on bad teams, fridge teams. He's just another starting caliber guard. Toronto holding firm when they are getting thrown first round picks is silly. They are banking on Barnes becoming the next Giannis before these other guys leave or look old and it doesn't make sense.

I'm not sure if it's the Raptors front office thinking that way or just the fans/team media around the interwebz but not moving some of those guys like that for more assets, cap space, etc when you have Barnes and Siakam seems weird to me.

Say it with me. The Timberwolves' dumb asses broke trades for the next few years. Every team that's selling something is gonna be out here looking for severe overpays because of what they did in Minnesota.

[ojandpizza]

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Say it with me. The Timberwolves' dumb asses broke trades for the next few years. Every team that's selling something is gonna be out here looking for severe overpays because of what they did in Minnesota.

You might be right, but Toronto was that way before that trade. They’ve been this way for 2-3 years. That’s why they still have all these guys on their roster.

I guess my thought process is they most likely don’t feel like they are in a rush to move these guys. They could finish bottom 5ish with all of them and have just as good of a shot at landing a great pick as they would trading them. Meaning they can wait till the off-season to explore trades. But why would most of these teams give up more for a guy like FVV in the off-season than they would right now? I just don’t see that happening. Much bigger fish to chase than FVV by that point.

And for some of these guys (like FVV and Gary Trent) who says they even accept their player options after this season rather than chase more $$$. Which is just another reason every team wanting those guys are going to give up more for them now because they also want those bird rights.

But it’s whatever to me. If Dinwiddie and multiple picks isn’t enough for FVV then Masai can just keep trying to win trades so massively that he loses them all for nothing and nobody wants to do business with him [emoji2371].. Should work well.

It just feels like the reality of what they actually have and how likely they are to massively win trades while they aren’t very good seems very unrealistic. Maybe landing Kawhi that one time was enough to give that sense of false hope, but every Raptors-side take of all these rumors makes it sound like FVV is Ja and Siakam is Luka. Boston guys weren’t even that protective of Jaylen Brown. Like I said, just unrealistic.

[ojandpizza]

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Some dumb “rumors” of KD for Brown being alive again and then Jaylen Brown misses tonight with “illness”.. c’mon man they just love to fuel the fire I swear lol.