1/30 - 2/15 Games Discussion Thread

[ojandpizza]

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To me it's a performance based pay raise. You meet the requirements, you get the raise. Thinking of it as "that's money they are owed, and you are taking it away by requiring X," seems to miss the definition of what it actually is. I would love to get that raise that I missed out on because of some specific performance requirement, but to describe that as an unfair paycut would be next level delusion.

I get that but some instances it isn’t in their control and in years past players under the same circumstance weren’t getting their money taken away. So I definitely get players having the “this hurts me but it didn’t effect this guy or this guy” mindset.

Not saying what you’re describing isn’t fair but I do feel like if players are missing games for reasons out of their control it does become a bit unfair. And I do think someone getting hurt and missing like 60 games is different than someone actually getting hurt but making a comeback and missing that 65 game mark by like 2-3 games because of that.. especially if that player felt “good to go” but was held out and extra few days from the medical team. And we’ve been told that happens all the time.

[jeebs9]

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Driving team (Magic) vs Spurs (Wemby). This should be fun

[jeebs9]

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Besides the above. I'm so disappointed that so many key players are out tonight.

No Luka vs the Wolves
Zion out vs the Rockets
Jokic out for the Thunder

All really great match up if only those players players SMH

[ggsimmonds]

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I get that but some instances it isn’t in their control and in years past players under the same circumstance weren’t getting their money taken away. So I definitely get players having the “this hurts me but it didn’t effect this guy or this guy” mindset.

Not saying what you’re describing isn’t fair but I do feel like if players are missing games for reasons out of their control it does become a bit unfair. And I do think someone getting hurt and missing like 60 games is different than someone actually getting hurt but making a comeback and missing that 65 game mark by like 2-3 games because of that.. especially if that player felt “good to go” but was held out and extra few days from the medical team. And we’ve been told that happens all the time.

Is the contract in their control though? Genuine question, seems like in the NBA there is less freedom to "customize" contracts.

The NFL part of my brain wants to say "well you agreed to a incentive heavy contract instead of having a higher salary so deal with it" but I don't know if that reasoning applies to NBA contracts*.

*I would like to take this time to say I strongly dislike the NBA's "max contract" system.

[dubcity]

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I get that but some instances it isn’t in their control and in years past players under the same circumstance weren’t getting their money taken away. So I definitely get players having the “this hurts me but it didn’t effect this guy or this guy” mindset.

Not saying what you’re describing isn’t fair but I do feel like if players are missing games for reasons out of their control it does become a bit unfair. And I do think someone getting hurt and missing like 60 games is different than someone actually getting hurt but making a comeback and missing that 65 game mark by like 2-3 games because of that.. especially if that player felt “good to go” but was held out and extra few days from the medical team. And we’ve been told that happens all the time.

I just have less faith that there would be an an endpoint. If you lower it to 60 and a guy is at 59, why should that cost him $40M? Maybe he missed the game because of an Ayton situation. That could seem unreasonable using this logic.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Is the contract in their control though? Genuine question, seems like in the NBA there is less freedom to "customize" contracts.

The NFL part of my brain wants to say "well you agreed to a incentive heavy contract instead of having a higher salary so deal with it" but I don't know if that reasoning applies to NBA contracts*.

*I would like to take this time to say I strongly dislike the NBA's "max contract" system.

For the most part, no.

They can tell their Agent was they want and go from there but ideally it’ll come down to the team. The player will generally focus on the yearly average as opposed to minute details(Unless the player is repping themselves, in which case they’ll want to know about EVERY thing in that deal).

I only know this because I was listening to a space on Twitter with some Agents over the offseason and basically breaking down the process and what players want/don’t get, etc.

[jeebs9]

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Nets hanging around the Nets. Cam Thomas doing Cam Thomas things

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Cam is looking good so far, which means Vaughn bout to yank him for the rest of the game.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Royce O’Neal at the 5 and Mikal running the 4 spot.

Perfectly normal lineup there. [emoji849]

[jeebs9]

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Magic have had 2 two collapses in Texas. Two 20 point ones [emoji23]

[jeebs9]

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Royce O’Neal at the 5 and Mikal running the 4 spot.

Perfectly normal lineup there. [emoji849]

It has promoted switching. ONeal been off though.

[jeebs9]

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I think Scoot Henderson wants the world to know. Dame left. But he is here [emoji23]

[jeebs9]

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That **** extra hit LMAO

https://twitter.com/ridiculouscage/status/1752904791066624063?t=yxvUbLTpUZpCYN_E5C-QFQ&s=19

[jeebs9]

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SGA doing SGA things. 1 first team everything. He's starting to become my MVP right now.

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1752906541726904639?t=yTcfsCdRDsj3Zgzvew5E8w&s=19

Donovan went for 45

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1752887779028004978?t=xZICnjU2-TN72p9vui7g_g&s=19

[Majingir]

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NBA refs

https://twitter.com/FelipeFromMiami/status/1752387742669869546?t=DlGu2LqfhClXE9PDxq5kdQ&s=19