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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
That's the problem with this shortened free agency signing period. Anyone with a pen and an outlet can drum up nonsense and put it out there and slap a "sources" on it.
I don't know what is worse-
The Knicks trade Amar'e for Chris Paul or
The Nets trade Deron Williams to Orlando
Who gives the green light to these guys writing stories?Comment
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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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New York Times paying Daily News and Post writers too?
Sent from my mobile device."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
Knicks on the verge of bringing in Jerome Jordan
Chandler- 7'1Add another 7-footer to the team.
The Post has learned 7-foot center Jerome Jordan, a 2010 second-round draft pick, will be the next addition to the Knicks' roster as he was involved in heavy contract negotiations late last night to bring him to New York, according to his agent Todd Ramasar.
Jordan spent the lockout playing in Slovenia but signed an opt-out clause for when the lockout ended. There was also a small buyout in the Slovenia deal. The Knicks were waiting on inviting Jordan to see if they had the room, pending which free agents they pursued. Jordan's agent had told the Post last week if Jordan was not invited to camp, he would demand a trade for his client.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knick...#ixzz1g8knSdfr
Jordan- 7'0
STAT- 6'11
Jorts- 6'10
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
NEW ERA:
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
I gotta say, as much I rag on ya'll....*takes off Nets goggle* I definitely love that move for ya'll in picking up Tyson and think he'll be a great fit there.
Ughhh I feel dirty giving ya'll props lol.#RespectTheCultureComment
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
Well, we now officially have the best front court in the East, probably the entire NBA once the Lakers ship Pau out.
We still need to fill out the roster and fill the PG hole but I'm excited.
Pringles saying that our offense will run through Melo "like Bird and the 80's Celtics" makes me happy. Hopefully he isn't going to be incredibly stubborn and will play to our strength and now slow things down (granted he drastically slowed the pace after the Melo trade last year).
Looks like Bibby will be signed too.
At least we'll have one true PG on the roster to start the season lol.Mike Bibby will sign a one-year deal with the Knicks.
Bibby signed with the Heat toward the end of the 10-11 season after agreeing to a buyout with the Wizards.
Via Sam Amick/SI.com (via Twitter)"You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
"Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren BuffetComment
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
From Hollinger, one of my least favorite members of the media...
If I would characterize the New York Knicks organization in one word, it would be "impatient."
Over the past two decades, the Knicks have looked for every shortcut and thrown money at every problem. The ultimate result is that they've spent twice as much as everybody else, but the results haven't been much different.
So it was when they gave a fully guaranteed $95 million to Amare Stoudemire, an uninsurable (and thus untradable) player who has had two microfracture surgeries, and so it was when they threw in pretty much every useful asset they had in order to get Carmelo Anthony from Denver.
But here's the thing: Given those parameters, what they did with Tyson Chandler makes a lot of sense. If you start from the assumption that there's no such thing as a bad contract with the Knicks because they don't care if they pay luxury tax and they'll never be under the cap again in the next half-decade, then paying $58 million to Chandler over four years isn't that big a problem.
Make no mistake, this deal will be untradable the second it's signed. But given the decisions New York has already made and its unique immunity to fiscal sanity, it still made sense.
The Knicks will have this cap space once and only once. It behooved them to use it on the best player who would take their money. Moreover, using it on a center -- the most expensive position -- made all kinds of sense. Guards are dramatically less expensive; you can get good ones using the midlevel exception. So the Knicks will more than happily use that exception each of the next three years. ...
... and this one! Because in a nice bit of cap management, the Knicks set this up as a sign-and-trade, meaning they never signed a free agent using cap space and thus retain all their exceptions.
In the meantime, New York can add two backcourt pieces with the newly generated exceptions -- if you're wondering, they can't sign Chauncey Billups, whom they intend to amnesty the rest of this season -- and plenty of good guards are still available. And while we're at it, I'll just throw this out there now: In the summer of 2012, Steve Nash and Grant Hill can be had as a combo deal with the midlevel and biannual exceptions, respectively.
The Knicks did one other cute little piece of cap management: They've set themselves up for a four-year run with the Melo-Amare-Chandler group, and then they can bust out the TNT and try again. All three players have deals that expire after the 2014-15 season, as will whomever the Knicks pick up with this year's midlevel and, if he signs a three-year deal, Nash. (And yes, I am getting ahead of myself. Thanks for asking.)
Again, it's the Knicks, so they are taking every shortcut, are overpaying every free agent and ultimately aren't going to win a ring this way. For goodness' sake, they set $10 million on fire by guaranteeing Billups' final year and then using the amnesty on him months later. (Again, with feeling: 10 million dollars. Burnt to a crisp. The New York Knicks, everyone!)
But the more you look at this deal with respect to decisions New York has already made, the more sense it makes, and the more you have to tip your cap to basketball operations VP Glen Grunwald and player personnel director Mark Warkentien for thinking outside the box.
Additionally, the fit for New York is impeccable. Since the Knicks have two forwards who are somewhere between agnostic and allergic to defense, Chandler can protect the rim for New York and provide some modicum of resistance for what was previously a lineup full of DHs. Stoudemire will also be saved from the banging of playing the center position, which he did much of the time last season. If Chandler (with a little help from Toney Douglas) can make the Knicks just average on defense, the two forwards will take care of the rest."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Now I really can't wait for Christmas!Comment
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
The part Hollinger states about us having both the MLE & 2.5 Exception seems to be confusing. Many including Larry Coon state we lost the MLE in the Chandler deal, but did get to keep the 2.5 exception.Comment
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