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  • Vast
    MVP
    • Sep 2003
    • 4015

    #181
    Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

    Originally posted by ehh
    I didn't see the game, we really went over the top on screens w/ MCW?
    Yeah man, soooo frustrating. I was yelling at the tv "go under the ****ing screens!" lol RoLo also doesn't even defend jumpshots. He just sticks his hand up and watches.
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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #182
      Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

      Don't wanna hear any fluff pieces, Devil's Advocate or whatever...Melo has one of the lowest basketball IQs in the league and there is no denying it.
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      • NYJets
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 18637

        #183
        Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

        Well Porzingis was exciting. Everything else sucked.

        Defense awful all game. ****ing miserable watching Felton play well against us.

        Melo getting the technical and then whatever he was trying to do on that screen killed us down the stretch.

        I know he's had his moments, but I really don't like Seraphin's game and would rather see O'Quinn out there.
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        • nuckles2k2
          MVP
          • Sep 2006
          • 1922

          #184
          Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

          Originally posted by ehh
          Don't wanna hear any fluff pieces, Devil's Advocate or whatever...Melo has one of the lowest basketball IQs in the league and there is no denying it.

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          • JoFri
            Pro
            • Mar 2013
            • 1486

            #185
            Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

            Originally posted by NYJets
            Well Porzingis was exciting. Everything else sucked.

            Defense awful all game. ****ing miserable watching Felton play well against us.

            Melo getting the technical and then whatever he was trying to do on that screen killed us down the stretch.

            I know he's had his moments, but I really don't like Seraphin's game and would rather see O'Quinn out there.

            absolutely awful. what is on their mind for the coaches in the defensive department? i never see onball screen switches so frequent in phil's days. yes, offball maybe. ron harper/mj/pippen switch to chase reggie miller off the screens. this knicks .... they need to watch the spurs. their hedge defense is so well executed.

            and then when the mavs switched on them, they rushed the attack and not able to exploit the mismatch.

            i really hate the way the players were subbed out. got one instance both grant and williams missed open shot. they were out in the next time-out. c'mon the guys need to be comfortable in taking the shots, and not fear or pressured to take the shots. knowing they would go back to the bench after a misfire could lose their confidence in shooting.

            i almost want to smash the screen.

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            • Jeffx
              MVP
              • Jan 2007
              • 3045

              #186
              Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

              My jaw dropped watching Carmelo take that awful shot to end last night's game. Are you kidding me????

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #187
                Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                Originally posted by Jeffx
                My jaw dropped watching Carmelo take that awful shot to end last night's game. Are you kidding me????
                At least NBA admitted Melo was fouled.

                Everyone seems to believe the same thing. I haven't seen any footage.

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                • gmac0322
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1650

                  #188
                  Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                  Melo definitely gets hacked a lot when he takes it to the basket especially

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                  • Vast
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 4015

                    #189
                    Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                    Wow look at that... the Knicks win a game due to O'Quinn getting minutes and Calderon riding the pine in favor of perimeter defense. What an outrageous concept.
                    Lance Thomas is an idiot for that foul on Lillard on that last 3pt shot.
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                    • CMH
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #190
                      Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                      I thought the same thing (didn't we all) with O'Quinn and Calderon.

                      Why it takes coaches so long to see what fans see is beyond me. It's like the louder we are, the more they refuse to do it so it doesn't seem like they listen to fans.

                      Maybe.

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                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • Vast
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 4015

                        #191
                        Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                        Originally posted by CMH
                        I thought the same thing (didn't we all) with O'Quinn and Calderon.

                        Why it takes coaches so long to see what fans see is beyond me. It's like the louder we are, the more they refuse to do it so it doesn't seem like they listen to fans.

                        Maybe.

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                        It's strange, there are a TON of difficult tasks a head coach has to deal with but the parts the fans complain about the most and feel like we can do better is recognizing who is playing well and who deserves playing time.

                        For example I would never rely on Calderon to guard a starting NBA point guard for extended minutes and expect to win games... but maybe thats just me.
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                        • Hassan Darkside
                          We Here
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 7561

                          #192
                          Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                          I don't think it's ever as simple as us fans make it and I'm sure it's not a foreign thought to the coaching staff. We're only really concerned about Ws and Ls. Coaches have much more to worry about.
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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #193
                            Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                            It's clear to me at least that Fisher likes Amundson and Thomas' defensive versatility. I think that's the main reason why Amundson was playing over KOQ for a while.

                            Thomas has proven to be reliable enough on the offensive end of the floor so there isn't much to complain about regarding him.
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                            • CMH
                              Making you famous
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #194
                              Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                              Originally posted by Hassan Darkside
                              I don't think it's ever as simple as us fans make it and I'm sure it's not a foreign thought to the coaching staff. We're only really concerned about Ws and Ls. Coaches have much more to worry about.
                              Definitely true. There is much more for them to consider. But it does seem that some things are pretty clear cut.

                              I'm not suggesting Calderon get cut or traded like some across the internet have said. I just think when you see that a player can't defend against other players, you might want to actually try to win the game by playing someone that can. That's not even a long term project. That's just game-to-game.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • gmac0322
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 1650

                                #195
                                Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                                Originally posted by CMH
                                Definitely true. There is much more for them to consider. But it does seem that some things are pretty clear cut.

                                I'm not suggesting Calderon get cut or traded like some across the internet have said. I just think when you see that a player can't defend against other players, you might want to actually try to win the game by playing someone that can. That's not even a long term project. That's just game-to-game.
                                I agree completely.

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