Fight Night Round 4 Announced, Mike Tyson Featured

[Money99]

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now THAT's how you get people excited!

forget tyson though...i'm all about the glancing blows and rough inside fighting/ new physics. EA's rosters have been notoriously weak (3 evander's = 3 boxers!?!? etc.)

Glancing and missed blows are something that have been sorely missed in boxing games for years.
In boxing the punch either hits or it's blocked/ducked. But the punch is always 100% accurate.

In baseball is every hit on the mark? Is it either a hit or a wiff? No. So why would it be the same in boxing.

I'd like to see several factors contribute to whether or not a punch lands:
- fighters overall accuracy
- fighters accuracy for that particular punch
- his opponents defense
- what angle he's firing the punch from

I have no problem with a bit of CPU-aided defense. As in, if you're fighting with Winky Wright, you shouldn't always have to press the 'block' button to dodge a shot. Sometimes the stats should come into play where the CPU helps you clip a punch away or have it skim your gloves.

Fights in video games need to be a bit more greasy. Especially when you start fighting top 10 guys. Notice how almost every fighter's KO% starts to dip when they fight the best? It should be the same in a game. Better fighters means better defenses. Earning a KO against a champ or top 5 guy should be an accomplished act - not something that's expected.

[allBthere]

Re: Fight Night Round 4 Announced, Mike Tyson Featured

Glancing and missed blows are something that have been sorely missed in boxing games for years.
In boxing the punch either hits or it's blocked/ducked. But the punch is always 100% accurate.

In baseball is every hit on the mark? Is it either a hit or a wiff? No. So why would it be the same in boxing.

I'd like to see several factors contribute to whether or not a punch lands:
- fighters overall accuracy
- fighters accuracy for that particular punch
- his opponents defense
- what angle he's firing the punch from

I have no problem with a bit of CPU-aided defense. As in, if you're fighting with Winky Wright, you shouldn't always have to press the 'block' button to dodge a shot. Sometimes the stats should come into play where the CPU helps you clip a punch away or have it skim your gloves.

Fights in video games need to be a bit more greasy. Especially when you start fighting top 10 guys. Notice how almost every fighter's KO% starts to dip when they fight the best? It should be the same in a game. Better fighters means better defenses. Earning a KO against a champ or top 5 guy should be an accomplished act - not something that's expected.

totally agree. And i'd like to add that every punch shouldn't be 'textbook' ..not everyone's technique is great, and not everyone's technique is great on every punch.

I'd like to see some sloppy and wild punches from time to time, because of fatigue or being hurt. And momentum..if you walk or sway right into a punch it's quite different than rolling with it.

[Money99]

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totally agree. And i'd like to add that every punch shouldn't be 'textbook' ..not everyone's technique is great, and not everyone's technique is great on every punch.

I'd like to see some sloppy and wild punches from time to time, because of fatigue or being hurt. And momentum..if you walk or sway right into a punch it's quite different than rolling with it.

Great ideas!
And how about injuries? I'd love to try and muster out wins with broken hands, a separated shoulder or even a broken jaw.

[DTX3]

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Typical EA, they get competition and try to kill it with a big name...im really not excited for Tyson, maybe if it was years ago but not now...just give us a better and bigger career mode, please.

[PikeJR23]

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Roy Jones Jr and Floyd Mayweather Jr are the two best p4p fighters ever. Believe that. I hope they have two versions of them both in the game from when they were young and in their primes.

[fistofrage]

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Typical EA, they get competition and try to kill it with a big name...im really not excited for Tyson, maybe if it was years ago but not now...just give us a better and bigger career mode, please.

I agree its typical EA to try to kill the competition, but for the life of me, I can't figure out 2k's marketing. They do more damage to themselsves with their lack of product promotion than EA could ever do to them.

2k elected to have Don King and paid him $1M +. I am sure they could have gotten Tyson, PBF, etc. for that type of money. EA made the right business move, regardless of how frustrated I get with EA's games, I have to give them all the credit in the world for their marketing tactics.

[Money99]

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I agree its typical EA to try to kill the competition, but for the life of me, I can't figure out 2k's marketing. They do more damage to themselsves with their lack of product promotion than EA could ever do to them.

2k elected to have Don King and paid him $1M +. I am sure they could have gotten Tyson, PBF, etc. for that type of money. EA made the right business move, regardless of how frustrated I get with EA's games, I have to give them all the credit in the world for their marketing tactics.

There's a reason why they're #1.

There are websites out there that have 1/10th the exposure IGN or OS have and yet they get invited to view games privately - on EA's dime. They don't have to do it, but they do.

2K could learn a thing or two about that.

[LP]

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Roy Jones Jr and Floyd Mayweather Jr are the two best p4p fighters ever. Believe that. I hope they have two versions of them both in the game from when they were young and in their primes.

[Behindshadows]

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Cha Ching!!!! I'm buying it.

Mike Tyson baby!!! About time!

I wonder if its going to be an old Tyson model, or that whack one, with the damn tattoo on his face!

[Vast]

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Awesome. Im not even looking forward to Prizefighter that much anymore. This game will hopefully be the real deal.

No lifebars just knockouts based on physics and impact, angles all that. Gimme an awesome career mode with multiple belts and rivals with great AI. and i will forever love EA.

[Writer's Block]

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Cha Ching!!!! I'm buying it.

Mike Tyson baby!!! About time!

I wonder if its going to be an old Tyson model, or that whack one, with the damn tattoo on his face!

It's the young Tyson, it says in this Eurogamer article.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=137762

[acarrero]

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I could be wrong, but I don't think Fight Night ever contained different power for a boxer's different punches - Oscar's left hook should be more powerful than his right, for example. This should be included in the game. Also, please get Cotto in there!

[tyreeii]

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yeah, I am really looking forward to this game. The sad thing about it all is the dire financial situation Tyson is in. This just shows how much he needs the money.

Now, to the fighters. I figure they will make Tyson "hell on wheels" for the first 5-6 rounds but after that he will slow down significantly because stamina was never his strong point (after the Tony Tucker fight). He would always start out strong and fade towards the end. Thats how Holyfield beat him (and a lot of holding) even though Tyson was a shell of himself (footwork, balance, and combo punching were horrible).

Personally, I think that a prime Tyson would give Ali a great fight and he would win 25% of the time. The only way Ali would beat him is via decision or a stoppage on cuts.

I would like to see them bring Mayweather back, hopefully they make him true to form. A thought for everyone to ponder, everyone always talks about how Floyd does not hit hard, but has anyone noticed that all of the fighters who decided to trade punches with him were knocked out or stopped??? The only exception is JL Castillo and the fight when he broke his hand (forgot when but is was in Grand Rapids). De La Hoya was doing well, but he stopped jabbing after the 5-6th rounds, prob cuz he did not want to be countered.

[metallicatz]

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wow, you giive ali absolutely no credit....
his jab was one of the best in the game,his speed and power are 2nd to none.

mike tyson has never ever faced anyone of ali's caliber, but ali has faced a few tysons(foreman,frazier)
tysons 'BUMRUSH" only worked on bums.....you think holyfield picked him apart,ali would have humiliated the best version of tyson, just by floating on the ouside feeding him beautiful combinatios. a prime mike tyson was not smart enough or skilled enough to beat a prime ali.

it get's no smoother than this

I give Ali all the credit in the world.....except the smarts to know when to quit. I wouldn't consider foreman or frazier to be similar in any way to tyson. Just because they were the feared surly fighters of their day doesn't mean they are the same fighters. As i said, Tyson was a phenomenon after a great decade of 70's heavyweight boxing. He was something the world had never seen.....even after all those greats. And Holyfield didn't pick him apart in that first fight, he took his shots too. And let's not forget that the Tyson Holyfield faced was not Tyson in his prime. It was post-prison era Tyson. Again, in my opinion, Ali is unconcsious inside of 4 rounds facing a late 80's era Tyson.

And in that clip Ali's opponent isn't advancing on him. He's keeping his distance throwing those shots. Those moves would never work with a young Tyson coming at him frothing at the mouth looking for the deathblow.

[JayBee74]

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And let's not forget that the Tyson Holyfield faced was not Tyson in his prime. It was post-prison era Tyson. Again, in my opinion, Ali is unconcsious inside of 4 rounds facing a late 80's era Tyson.

Aw, the Tyson legions and their rewriting of history. Mike could beat any all time great except his REAL contemporary opponents Douglas, Holyfield, and Lewis. Their excuse-"Well, it wasn't Late 80's Mike"
The reality-"Mike's late 80's opponents weren't really that good".