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  • CaptainZombie
    Brains
    • Jul 2003
    • 37851

    #16
    Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

    Originally posted by Altimus GTR
    Done.
    Thanks
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    • JayBee74
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2002
      • 22989

      #17
      Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

      The best online boxers to choose are ones with good stamina and dexterity, because power means little. The boxer's "shield" needs to be reduced by as much as 100%, or you have eliminated sluggers in this game. The scoring system needs to be adjusted to give more weight to power punches, although ones landed weakly shouldn't count that high although that might be too much for 2K to handle. Obviously collision detection and sluggish gameplay are problems but then we are talking about a total do over, which isn't a bad idea.

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      • Mason81Ballin!!!
        Banned
        • Jan 2007
        • 840

        #18
        Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

        Originally posted by kcxiv
        I played someone from here online earlier and we both had our rounds, but i felt he fought better and the judges awarded him the match. Mind you this was my first time online. I thought they called it dead one.

        My only complaint online is that punches dont do enough damage. I am going to push for this to be adjusted. The big punches need to be felt a little more.
        If your talking about our fight.. I started out well but after the 4th round you took control when I tried to go inside with you.. But in the last round I went back to the first plan( use my speed on you) but otherwise it was a great fight and I had fun with it

        As well on the flip side,I had a fight with a friend where i knocked him out in the 4th round in a 10, 2 minute rounds so.. it does happen

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        • thelwig14
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3145

          #19
          Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

          After spending many hours with this title already and knowing you can't fix everything, here is what I would like fixed asap:

          1. More power to the punches. I am 10-0 online and I have never sent anyone to the canvas, yet I have OWNED some guys (and yes, I am cognizant of my blue bar and timing my adrenaline punches and whatnot). The best guys on the leaderboard have very few knockdowns. This has to be fixed. Whether it is not regaining so much stamina between rounds or adding more oompf to the punches, fix it. And this should be an easy fix.

          2. If you fix number 1, then fix the boxing ratings. Not to be an ***, but you can even tell in the career mode where the "real" boxers are set up that the developers never have watched these guys fight. This would take seriously two seconds to adjust the ratings appropriately for each fighter. I will gladly help for free.



          On a side note, I don't think the judging is that bad because I haven't been burned by it. All fights felt scored appropriately.

          But in sum, please fix the power. I fought a guy in 12 rounds with 3 minutes each round and absolutely OWNED him and he never hit the canvas. Just not right.

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          • Sausage
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 3905

            #20
            Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

            I have not been online yet. Though in exhibition I believe one loses to much energy from just a few non heavy blows. Mainly the human player. It seems to me the A.I. on all the difficulties have inflated stats because they dish out more damage per punch and recover at a faster pace.

            One thing I find disturbing is when you have a good round the following round they are nostradamus and know every punch your going to throw and counter everything. I love the aggressive and tough A.I. but it does not feel natural.

            Loving the story mode.

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            • JayBee74
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 22989

              #21
              Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

              Originally posted by thelwig14
              On a side note, I don't think the judging is that bad because I haven't been burned by it. All fights felt scored appropriately.
              For the most part you won't get burned by this scoring system because of it's simplicity. Generally speaking most punches landed gives you the round unless it's within three, in which case it's a draw. The only time it won't be in your favor is if you are hurting the guy and landing heavier punches and still lose the round because he "out connected" you 38-34.
              Originally posted by Sausage
              I have not been online yet. Though in exhibition I believe one loses to much energy from just a few non heavy blows. Mainly the human player. It seems to me the A.I. on all the difficulties have inflated stats because they dish out more damage per punch and recover at a faster pace.
              Online is the place to be. I notice that immediate energy is loss when gamers throw to many punches particularly the confused ones that mash buttons when their opponent's boxer is well out of punching range. It's possible that missed punches drain your fighter even more.
              Last edited by JayBee74; 06-15-2008, 11:22 AM.

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              • fluent2332
                MVP
                • Aug 2005
                • 1735

                #22
                Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the punches are starting to do more damage online. I scored a 3rd RD KO using Roman Karmazin, he was down once and didn't get back up. I also got KO'd in round 2 by Kelly Pavlik and I was Karmazin, both of us were pretty hurt but he was ripping me, body and head. Again the ref waived it off without a count. So it seems like maybe they tweaked something about the online play. But I'm loving the gameplay. Just fix the scoring issue and I'll be officially hooked

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                • JayBee74
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 22989

                  #23
                  Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                  Originally posted by fluent2332
                  Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the punches are starting to do more damage online. I scored a 3rd RD KO using Roman Karmazin, he was down once and didn't get back up. I also got KO'd in round 2 by Kelly Pavlik and I was Karmazin, both of us were pretty hurt but he was ripping me, body and head. Again the ref waived it off without a count. So it seems like maybe they tweaked something about the online play. But I'm loving the gameplay. Just fix the scoring issue and I'll be officially hooked
                  For some reason I'm feeling the same way but isn't that impossible? Isn't there a notification of an update for a particular game followed by a reboot?

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                  • CaptainZombie
                    Brains
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 37851

                    #24
                    Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                    Originally posted by JayBee74
                    For some reason I'm feeling the same way but isn't that impossible? Isn't there a notification of an update for a particular game followed by a reboot?
                    Yes, if there is an update you will be notified upon booting the game. No patch yet JayBee, and you know how long it takes Take Two games to be patched. Usually months after a game is out, even if it is a critical bug. They have such a nice game here and I think with a few more months of development, it could have been so much more.
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                    • thelwig14
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3145

                      #25
                      Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                      Originally posted by candymanGT
                      Yes, if there is an update you will be notified upon booting the game. No patch yet JayBee, and you know how long it takes Take Two games to be patched. Usually months after a game is out, even if it is a critical bug. They have such a nice game here and I think with a few more months of development, it could have been so much more.


                      Yep, it is a shame. The majority of the flaws in Prizefighter are very simple tweaks. Inexcusable as a company to release a product like this, though 2k unfortunately has a streak of this type of behavior.

                      Though early reports are Top Spin 3 just might have finally got tennis right...

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                      • kcxiv
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 2564

                        #26
                        Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                        Me and some of the other 2ksports.com mods did a report for a patch. We have submitted it to Ron who then takes it to the other guys.

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                        • PSU_DW2
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1081

                          #27
                          Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                          That Proposed Patch Document on the 2ksports.com forum is kind of ridiculous. So many things apparently need to be tweaked and values need to be changed in terms of damage and judging. This is just not a very polished game.

                          These things need to be embedded in the final version of the game or else the game should not be released. The designers need to oversee how these values get intertwined with core gameplay elements and mechanics so that the game plays an accurate simulation out of the box. Games aren't supposed to be like this. Gamers shouldn't be "testers" communicating bugs to fix to the programmers.

                          This is unacceptable no matter how great the graphics look. This is a problem with 2K and a problem with next-gen sports games in general. They just are not as well rounded and refined than similar games on ps2 and xbox1.

                          I still say this game can be fun, but this type of game patching on console games is not a good direction to be going.

                          2K / Venom has shown that they have talent, but they do not make good decisions about how to program, intertwine gameplay mechanics to values and ensure that the game executes accurately to the best of its ability.

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                          • kcxiv
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 2564

                            #28
                            Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                            I agree that prizefighter should not have been released in its current condition, but about the patches. Just about every single game thats out there right now has had a patch. ITs just the way things are going to work from here on out. If you go back and think about your favorite sports games there is always things that could be patched to fix this or fix that, but they didn't have the ability to patch. Madden, had a patch, Ncaa had a patch. All pro football had a patch. Fifa i beleive had a patch. All sports games just have them now.

                            People just have to get used of the patch thing. At least they are looking into things. They could have just told you. To bad deal with it, it is what it is.

                            Also, the reason why we need to see patches is becuase people can now be more vocal about it. When it goes through QA testing they have what 10-20 people testing the game. Game gets released and you all of a sudden have in certain games millions playing. All the people finding ways to find glitches and exploits. Its just going to happen with sports game.

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                            • PSU_DW2
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1081

                              #29
                              Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                              Originally posted by kcxiv
                              I agree that prizefighter should not have been released in its current condition, but about the patches. Just about every single game thats out there right now has had a patch. ITs just the way things are going to work from here on out. If you go back and think about your favorite sports games there is always things that could be patched to fix this or fix that, but they didn't have the ability to patch. Madden, had a patch, Ncaa had a patch. All pro football had a patch. Fifa i beleive had a patch. All sports games just have them now.

                              People just have to get used of the patch thing. At least they are looking into things. They could have just told you. To bad deal with it, it is what it is.

                              Also, the reason why we need to see patches is becuase people can now be more vocal about it. When it goes through QA testing they have what 10-20 people testing the game. Game gets released and you all of a sudden have in certain games millions playing. All the people finding ways to find glitches and exploits. Its just going to happen with sports game.
                              It's like a catch 22. Now that devs have the ability to patch, they fall back onto it when it gets towards the end of the dev cycle. It's like, we know it has bugs, but we can always patch it so then lets just release it. It's like every since next-gen, the games have become much more graphic and intensive.

                              If you keep the scope of the design simple, then there will be less bugs to deal with. Prizefighter shows promise, but really is not tailored to the user when it comes to throwing punches. I like the idea of having to create your punch with your own movement. This game relies on the different types of punches you can queue. I'd rather have faster speed and more of a manual punch kind of like the victorious boxers series.

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                              • TheCreep
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1792

                                #30
                                Re: Prizefighter Patch Suggestions

                                I have a suggestion for Prizefighter. Let it rest in peace. Its hot garbage, bottom line. Hate to be so blunt about it folks, but it is what it is.

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