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  • freezeframe
    Pro
    • Jul 2005
    • 799

    #1

    Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

    Judah and Kirlov will win their fights!
  • rockchisler
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    • Oct 2002
    • 8290

    #2
    Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

    Is this tonight? pay per view? Showtime?
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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #3
      Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

      HBO.

      They're showing Margarito/Cotto replay right now.

      I'm calling Judah losing by DQ.

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      • freezeframe
        Pro
        • Jul 2005
        • 799

        #4
        Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

        Yes Judahs fight is on HBO and the Darchinyian fight is on Showtime Tonight!

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        • bigeastbumrush
          My Momma's Son
          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #5
          Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

          Judah fight ends in controversy. What a shocker.

          I have Judah up 77-75 at this point. He just might pull it out.

          I didn't score the last round though. Here Judah 86-85 if I'm scoring the last round.

          I have Judah winning it only because he was more active. Clottey's shots were much sharper and crisp. The uppercut cut him. Not a headbutt.

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          • bigeastbumrush
            My Momma's Son
            • Feb 2003
            • 19245

            #6
            Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

            WOW.

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            • Complex
              MVP
              • Oct 2005
              • 2494

              #7
              Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

              I had it 77-75 for Judah but there were two very close rounds in the fight as my friend had the same score for Clottey. I gave those close rounds to Judah due to his work rate, which went in the tank later in the fight.

              That cut was opened by a punch, tough break Judah.

              Clottey is wise to call out Berto, get that belt from him (as I think he would win) and force Margarito and Williams your way.
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              • freezeframe
                Pro
                • Jul 2005
                • 799

                #8
                Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

                I think Zab won as well he got robbed!

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                • SHAKYR
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 1795

                  #9
                  Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

                  Judah quit to me. He see he couldn't penetrate his guard that well.
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                  • freezeframe
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 799

                    #10
                    Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

                    Well the Darchinyian fight should be good!!

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                    • thelwig14
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3145

                      #11
                      Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

                      Judah is a classic case of a fighter who had a lot of talent but after he chicken danced for the entire world, he lost whatever dawg he had...

                      I hope Clottey gets another chance at Margo. Both fighters weren't at the top of their games the first fight because of injuries.

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                      • pk500
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 8062

                        #12
                        Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

                        Judah was more active, but the majority of his shots hit leather. Clottey was landing more crisp, quality shots than Judah.

                        Clottey would have been robbed if the cards awarded the fight to Judah, especially since Clottey's uppercut -- not a head butt -- caused the cut over Judah's eye.

                        Judah fought with more heart and discipline -- especially his attention to Clottey's body in the middle rounds -- than I've seen recently, but the guy is still a Grade A head case. His career as a welterweight contender must be over now. There are at least five or six guys in the division who are better or more marketable than him now: Mayweather (I don't believe for a second he's done), De La Hoya, Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Hatton (although he's much better at 140), Quintana and maybe Berto.

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                        • Complex
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2494

                          #13
                          Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

                          Originally posted by thelwig14
                          Judah is a classic case of a fighter who had a lot of talent but after he chicken danced for the entire world, he lost whatever dawg he had...

                          I hope Clottey gets another chance at Margo. Both fighters weren't at the top of their games the first fight because of injuries.
                          Talking with guys from my gym, one who is a fighter at 140lbs, he said Judah's career went downhill once he started hanging with Mike Tyson.

                          Judah is a gifted fighter, if you can re-view the fight, its obvious who has the faster hands. Same thing in the Floyd fight. But for the life of me, a guy who has a horrible chin and prone to cuts...why doesnt he keep his hands up? Is it fatigue or just horrible basic fighting skills?
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                          • bigeastbumrush
                            My Momma's Son
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 19245

                            #14
                            Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

                            Originally posted by Complex
                            But for the life of me, a guy who has a horrible chin and prone to cuts...why doesnt he keep his hands up? Is it fatigue or just horrible basic fighting skills?
                            Definately the latter.

                            Zab's more style than substance. He had a great gameplan at the start of the fight- Jab upstairs, quick body shot. He kept throwing it...until he got hit. Once he gets slightly hurt or cut, he goes into freestlye streetfighting mode.

                            I watched youtube of alot of his amateur fights and he's pretty much always fought with his hands down. Difference is, he was just light years ahead talent-wise over everyone he faced.

                            Another thing I noticed over his last handful of fights- he has horrible cutmen in his corner. Last night, his nose got bloodied around the 3rd round. And they send him back into the next round with blood spilling from his nose. Did anyone catch that? And we've all seen how easily he swells up.

                            Not good traits to have in such a stacked division. Especially against Clottey who weighed nearly 160 lbs at the start of the fight.

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                            • thelwig14
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3145

                              #15
                              Re: Jab Judah vs Joshua Clottey and Dimitri Kirilov vs Vic Darchinyian!

                              Originally posted by Complex
                              Talking with guys from my gym, one who is a fighter at 140lbs, he said Judah's career went downhill once he started hanging with Mike Tyson.

                              Judah is a gifted fighter, if you can re-view the fight, its obvious who has the faster hands. Same thing in the Floyd fight. But for the life of me, a guy who has a horrible chin and prone to cuts...why doesnt he keep his hands up? Is it fatigue or just horrible basic fighting skills?
                              I respect your boys' opinion, but I just disagree. Judah reminds me of Tyson in many ways, but I don't think that is the reason. I think it is just a convenient excuse. There is no sport like boxing. When you get embarrassed, especially as bad as Judah did, it takes an unbelievable amount of mental toughness to come back and get right. And Judah simply just doesn't have the mental game. For every one of Ali and Lennox and Evander and whoever...there are 300 guys to each that had a ton of talent and when they got beat or something bad happened, they just couldn't get right.

                              It is really easy to dominate and look great against inferior opponents. But fighting fighters that are not quite as good, equal, or a little bit better, it takes a different mindset. Judah doesn't have it. He never adjusted and/or never recovered.

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