Official Slider Discussion Thread

[Ankido]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

i wondered if they affect both because i bumped the power slider all the way up and i noticed the cpu started to really pound me more.....then i started thinking that it might be for both

Parker already explained it. If it doesn't say CPU, the sliders are for both Human and CPU. If you put power to 10, you'll do massive damage and so will the CPU. The only CPU sliders are offensive awareness, defensive awareness and punch output.

I'm going to lower defense to 8 and give it a test. I noticed speed made a difference in counter punching as well. The faster the speed, the faster CPU blocks and throws counters. Adjusting defense to 8 might do the trick.

[acts238shaun]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Parker already explained it. If it doesn't say CPU, the sliders are for both Human and CPU. If you put power to 10, you'll do massive damage and so will the CPU. The only CPU sliders are offensive awareness, defensive awareness and punch output.

I'm going to lower defense to 8 and give it a test. I noticed speed made a difference in counter punching as well. The faster the speed, the faster CPU blocks and throws counters. Adjusting defense to 8 might do the trick.

Yes, speed plays a huge factor. I would say the counters are 70% CPU DEF AWR and 30% speed. At five speed and 10 def awr, slower power punchers with looping punches are countering jabs with looping hooks and at times haymakers. Three speed and 8 AWR feels much better and makes for better fights, especially with mine in the three minute rounds.

[Ankido]

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I found out going down to 8 was really bad. I felt the game was on Pro level. I went up to 9 and it felt a bit better. I knocked down Joe Calzaghe with Jones Jr. after countering and following up with an uppercut. After Joe got up; he was in defense mode the whole time afraid to throw a punch. He through 45 total punches. Had it not been for that KD the CPU would have 50+ punches thrown. I still need to test more with defense at 9 in order to make it official. Good finding though!

Edit: By decreasing the defense it seems as though the CPU is more aggressive on offense. Not feeling it on 8 or 9. Going to leave it at 10.

[parker002]

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I found out going down to 8 was really bad. I felt the game was on Pro level. I went up to 9 and it felt a bit better. I knocked down Joe Calzaghe with Jones Jr. after countering and following up with an uppercut. After Joe got up; he was in defense mode the whole time afraid to throw a punch. He through 45 total punches. Had it not been for that KD the CPU would have 50+ punches thrown. I still need to test more with defense at 9 in order to make it official. Good finding though!

Edit: By decreasing the defense it seems as though the CPU is more aggressive on offense. Not feeling it on 8 or 9. Going to leave it at 10.

I've been playing with having it much lower than that and it seems to be better than having it between 7 and 9.

[Ankido]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Try these out, not official still testing with various fighters and weight class.

Ank & Ben's Champion Simulation Sliders

Difficulty: Champion
Length: 2 minute Rounds
Foul Awareness: 10
Damage Awareness: 10
Boxer Power: 8 (changed from 7)
Boxer Speed: 2 (changed from 3)
Physical Damage: 9 (fights last longer, might drop down to 8)
Toughness: 4 (changed from 3)
CPU OA: 0
CPU DA: 9 or 8 (changed from 10 still testing)
CPU PO: 10

[acts238shaun]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Yes, they are more aggressive at lower levels, that is for sure. I just have a hard time with the lack of balance on Champion with a higher CPU defensive awareness. I will give nine a chance though. I am not looking for accurate punch totals as much as balance in the fight. As far as punches thrown I am sure lowering the output can take care of that. I will try that as well.

[parker002]

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Just had my first fight stoppage due to cuts. Unfortunately, it was me with the cut and I lost in the 9th.

[CBMerling]

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Just had my first fight stoppage due to cuts. Unfortunately, it was me with the cut and I lost in the 9th.

Haha, nice. Too bad you had the cut.

[dorismary]

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My problem is that I can't LOSE on Pro.

Maybe thats why I like Pro ? When I find some good sliders and get better Ill move up again .
Inside boxers like Duran and tyson really get screwed in this game dont you think ?
Parker I liked your Pro ones can you please post what your currently using on Champ
Are they current on page 1 ?
Now heres the funny part Parker is on Champion and his speed is 10 but with his sliders its the perfect pace very natural ? more feedback in a bit but his may be a nice bridge from pro to champ ?

[Ankido]

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Ank & Ben's Champion Simulation Sliders v1.3 Beta
Difficulty: Champion
Length: 2 minute Rounds
Foul Awareness: 10
Damage Awareness: 10
Boxer Power: 8 (changed from 7)
Boxer Speed: 2 (changed from 3)
Physical Damage: 9 (fights last longer, might drop down to 8)
Toughness: 4 (changed from 3)
CPU OA: 0
CPU DA: 9 or 8 (changed from 10 still testing)
CPU PO: 10

Ank's Pro Sliders v1.0 Beta
Difficulty: Pro
Length: 2 minute Rounds
Foul Awareness: 10
Damage Awareness: 9
Boxer Power: 6
Boxer Speed: 3 (Might bring this down; boxers are too fast on pro.)
Physical Damage: 9
Toughness: 8
CPU OA: 10
CPU DA: 9
CPU PO: 10

[parker002]

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I think I'm done with Champion. I just cannot find a happy medium. Either you lower power and fights go the distance or you up power and the fight ends in a knockout.

There's just no happy medium.

[dorismary]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

I think I'm done with Champion. I just cannot find a happy medium. Either you lower power and fights go the distance or you up power and the fight ends in a knockout.

There's just no happy medium.

Back to Pro ? yeah with your champ alot of them go the distance or my health ect is way to low to ko even if i have a chance at the end .
The cpu KOs me in the 9th ,10th but nice try just no variation on champion at least for me .
I told you Pro might be the better as ratings seem to matter more .
I might try 1 minute rounds to blend KOs or the distance that may give more variation . Almost a choice risk reward aggressive or passive

[Jukeman]

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Lol I cant get down with pro, its too easy for me

right n my legacy(goat) I find myself restarting my fight I have cuz he keeps knocking me out in the first round but Im going to ride it out becuz Im 71 rated and he's 70 but the bog diff is that his powerin both hands are 71 and 72 while my toughness is 58 and 59(toughness slider at 0 btw) but its balanced becuz my last fight was against some can who was rated a 65 and I knocked him out in the 4 round easily(lol felt like pro) Guess I just gotta watch out for this guy's hooks and uppercuts...

[Ankido]

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Try out my pro sliders. The 3 minutes was a typo. Set it 2 minutes and see how that works. I had some really good fights in all weight classes. Heavyweight went to 6 rounds I won with TKO; Heavy Lightweight, middle weight and lightweight went to 8-9 rounds TKO.

The only bad thing about this game is; the CPU sucks at points. You can never lose a decision unless the CPU knocks you down in almost all rounds.

[Vince]

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Ank, speed at 3 becomes a counter fest for me..It's so easy to time the CPU's punches..