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  • ragnarok1978
    Rookie
    • Aug 2004
    • 93

    #511
    Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by parker002
    Man, I just don't know if I can play Legacy on Champion. I eat so many punches because the blocking is bad and then I get impatient and start eating haymaker counters.
    What do you play leagy on then? Pro? And do you tweak the sliders? I find I eat alot of bodyshots as well (using your champion sliders for legacy), but I usually outlast my opponents cause I return the favor and get more combinations off. Usually byt the 4th-6th round their damage is climbing and I've still coserved enough stamina to kill their block-meter and still have enough punching power to take them down.

    Out of curiosity, do you have any pro sliders for legacy, which give a challenge? Usually on pro I cruise into the top15 without breaking much sweat, where-as on champion I gotta stay sharp pretty much as soon as I hit anyone inside the top30.
    It isn't how good you are. It's chaos and luck and anyone who thinks differently is a fool.

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    • dhrupick
      Rookie
      • Apr 2009
      • 8

      #512
      Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by acts238shaun
      Ok, Juke, if you want to post these feel free. These are my G.O.A.T. sliders, for right now. I use these in legacy and in fight now. I get more two knockdown fights than four and five. I also get a lot of flash KO's.

      Ref sliders - both 10
      Power 8
      Speed 3
      Damage 6
      Toughness 5
      CPU AI - Both 10
      Output 0
      I'm going to try these for awhile. I'll let you know how I feel about them.

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      • parker002
        MVP
        • Oct 2004
        • 1465

        #513
        Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ragnarok1978
        What do you play leagy on then? Pro? And do you tweak the sliders? I find I eat alot of bodyshots as well (using your champion sliders for legacy), but I usually outlast my opponents cause I return the favor and get more combinations off. Usually byt the 4th-6th round their damage is climbing and I've still coserved enough stamina to kill their block-meter and still have enough punching power to take them down.

        Out of curiosity, do you have any pro sliders for legacy, which give a challenge? Usually on pro I cruise into the top15 without breaking much sweat, where-as on champion I gotta stay sharp pretty much as soon as I hit anyone inside the top30.
        I use my Champion sliders in Legacy right now, but I'm getting sick of them.

        Way too many one punch knockdowns. Every time the CPU counters, I go down. I just don't think I'm good enough. Yeah, they're challenging, but it's starting to kill the fun.
        Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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        • parker002
          MVP
          • Oct 2004
          • 1465

          #514
          Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

          I think I'm done with this game until they get a punch accuracy slider.
          Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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          • acts238shaun
            MVP
            • Dec 2005
            • 2714

            #515
            Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by dhrupick
            I'm going to try these for awhile. I'll let you know how I feel about them.
            Yeah, they work well for me, but you can't get complacent. As sim as I can do.

            As far as punch accuracy, I try to block more and time-counter less on GOAT and that works well for me as long as the speed is not higher than three. I keep the CPU to 40% or less most fights and I usually hit about the same.

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            • parker002
              MVP
              • Oct 2004
              • 1465

              #516
              Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by acts238shaun
              Yeah, they work well for me, but you can't get complacent. As sim as I can do.

              As far as punch accuracy, I try to block more and time-counter less on GOAT and that works well for me as long as the speed is not higher than three. I keep the CPU to 40% or less most fights and I usually hit about the same.
              I'm getting hit about 65% of the time, and that's on every difficulty level. The only difference between the difficulty levels is how much it hurts when they hit me. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but it's frustrating. I can't keep the CPU below 60% on any level. I'm really ready to throw in the towel for good.
              Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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              • Sausage
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 3905

                #517
                Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                Guys, it's just my opinion, but stop messing with these sliders and play on default on a comfortable difficulty. I've learned from the football forums that when the sliders don't do exactly what you want, you forget to enjoy the game; which by the way is great.

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                • parker002
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1465

                  #518
                  Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Sausage
                  Guys, it's just my opinion, but stop messing with these sliders and play on default on a comfortable difficulty. I've learned from the football forums that when the sliders don't do exactly what you want, you forget to enjoy the game; which by the way is great.
                  But how is that possible? On default Pro, I can't lose. On default Champion, I struggle to win. That's the problem, for my skill level I can't find a level that suits me.
                  Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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                  • parker002
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 1465

                    #519
                    Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                    Let me ask you guys this - how much do you use the bob and weave? Because I can't do it, it just doesn't work. I don't know if it's my controller or what, but even looking at the controller and carefully making the motions don't work.

                    If that's how you guys are playing defense, no wonder I suck, because I've not done it a SINGLE time during a match.
                    Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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                    • Sausage
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3905

                      #520
                      Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by parker002
                      But how is that possible? On default Pro, I can't lose. On default Champion, I struggle to win. That's the problem, for my skill level I can't find a level that suits me.
                      I say stick it out in "Champion" difficulty" and stop stressing yourself on those sliders.

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                      • parker002
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 1465

                        #521
                        Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Sausage
                        I say stick it out in "Champion" difficulty" and stop stressing yourself on those sliders.
                        Nah, playing on Champion is killing my enjoyment of the game. I've started a new Legacy using my current Champion sliders, only on Pro difficulty with CPE awareness turned all the way up.
                        Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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                        • poster
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 7506

                          #522
                          Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                          It took me a while to get better at the game as I can't play as much as I would like, but I am starting to get win on Champion. My big issues are blocking as I just can't keep the CPU below 60% either, and running out of juice at the end of fights.

                          I didn't get better though until I started limiting my punch output and countering more, and also by moving around more. Be it by backing away when possible and bobbing and weaving. I notice that sometimes the CPU squats when moving, but I can never do that. Is it possible?

                          Alot of times it seems that I am blocking more shots, but they count them as landed. Maybe my block is weak for my created guy, not sure. Not even sure what sliders I am using anymore, but still enjoying the game. That being said, frustrating at times to be sure.

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                          • parker002
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1465

                            #523
                            Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by parker002
                            Nah, playing on Champion is killing my enjoyment of the game. I've started a new Legacy using my current Champion sliders, only on Pro difficulty with CPE awareness turned all the way up.
                            Well so much for that. 6-0 with 6 KO's as a lightweight. Pretty realistic.
                            Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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                            • parker002
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 1465

                              #524
                              Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                              I am officially f***ing SICK of counterpunching in this game. It's EVERY BIT as bad as the f***ing parrying from FNR3.
                              Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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                              • parker002
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 1465

                                #525
                                Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                                I posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating.

                                I've discovered through testing that the counter PUNCH itself has a hidden power bonus for the CPU that is independent of the Punch Power slider - it's how they achieved "Champion" and "GOAT" difficulty levels - by giving the CPU a boost on certain attributes.

                                On Pro, the bonus might actually be negative, because I'm noticing if I raise Punch Power out of proportion to Toughness, my counter punches get VERY strong but the CPU's do not increase in power at the same rate. However, on higher difficulties this is reversed.

                                So if I adjust the Power slider down to limit the damage the CPU counter can do on higher difficulties, I can't knockout or even knockdown my opponent. But if I turn Power up so that I can score a knockdown once in a while, it only takes 1 CPU counter and I'm out like a light.

                                I'm coming to realize that the entire game revolves around the counter. Every fighter is essentially a counter-puncher.
                                Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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