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  • wyrm187
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 393

    #1

    knockdown game / knockouts

    not done well at all imo and I apologize if there's athread about this already. I have fought 40 + fights and it's always the same damn thing when I getted knocked down, get up at 2-3 seconds first knockdown, second one takes 5-7 and from then on it's always around 9-10.

    What about a knockdown where you are just knocked the f out? they just decided not to sim this part of the sport which for the record, is exactly why I watch boxing and MMA - for the knock outs when someone is put to sleep. I don't mind the weak knock down animations (again IMO) but have only KO'd the comp once or twice on the 2nd knock down - it usually takes 3-4 times min though. I have never been knocked out on the first knockdown -

    I think they should have put in special animations where you just know the fight is over and he's not getting back up - and I'm not talking about the animation where the ref stops mid count cause your're stumbling to get to your feet - I'm talking about one where you need smelling salts before you're going anywhere.


    Also - finishing a guy who'd just been knocked down (and I mostly talking about fighting the computer) is flawed. I realize sometimes from a flash knockdown you recover pretty quick but I'm tired of getting stunned and knocked down myself when going in for the kill - the computer always fully recovers and just starts winging punches right after they got hurt , I mean come one - like a real fight they should be holding on and easily hurt after a hard knockdown. Instead they get back up as if nothing happened and same goes for me after I get knocked down - I don't feel vulnerable , it's like alright let's just keep fighting.

    Side note : it would have been nice to be able to turn off the knock down game altogether for those of us who think it's stupid
    Last edited by wyrm187; 07-01-2009, 02:09 PM.
  • wyrm187
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 393

    #2
    Re: knockdown game / knockouts

    wow 36 views and not one comment? everyone must be 100% satisified with this part of the game - that surprises me as a gamer/boxing fan

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    • BoJackson
      Rookie
      • Oct 2002
      • 108

      #3
      Re: knockdown game / knockouts

      dude i co-sign the ^^^

      Except for me, its even worst.....takes me 5-7 seconds to get up after first KD, and never able to get up after a second. I can abosultely decapitate the cpu on a KD punch, and if its one of the earlier rounds, he will always get back up.

      So yea, i wish KO's were determined by health/stamina/ and most important of all, the accuracy and force of the punch itself.

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      • cedwebb
        MVP
        • Oct 2005
        • 1159

        #4
        Re: knockdown game / knockouts

        yeah..I don't really like this part of the game either. Getting up is ok but it seems so scripted. They def need knock outs that are just boom..your done! I usually can't get up the third time, I am good for two but the third is still too hard for me to get.

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        • BoJackson
          Rookie
          • Oct 2002
          • 108

          #5
          Re: knockdown game / knockouts

          how do you guys even get up for the 2nd time? Do you touch the left stick very very slightly until it steadies in the middle...THEN push up on the right?

          Cause everytime I tried to push the left stick ever so slightly to the middle, it goes over. then i try to push back and it goes over again and left it out!

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          • Seymour Scagnetti
            Banned
            • Oct 2006
            • 2489

            #6
            Re: knockdown game / knockouts

            Originally posted by BoJackson
            how do you guys even get up for the 2nd time? Do you touch the left stick very very slightly until it steadies in the middle...THEN push up on the right?

            Cause everytime I tried to push the left stick ever so slightly to the middle, it goes over. then i try to push back and it goes over again and left it out!
            Same story here, I think once I've gotten up after the 2nd KD, I don't know how I even did it. It is way too hard and unbelievebly stupid. If I get knocked down in the 1st round and then in the 10th round I will never get up the 2nd time. Yet if in another fight my first KD is in the 10th round and has the same health as the previous scenario I will always get up.

            If I get knocked down twice in the 1st round even with full health it's just as difficult to get up the 2nd time as a 2nd KD in the 10th round. Your health and power of the punch have no bearing on the KD's. It's the same formula. It's 1st time easy, 2nd time incredibly tough, 3rd time impossible even if the 2nd and 3rd KD's are 7 rounds apart.

            Forget the stupid KD mini-game. If your knocked down it all should depend on the severity of the KD and how much health you have and no user input. Whoever designed this was semi-********.

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            • cedwebb
              MVP
              • Oct 2005
              • 1159

              #7
              Re: knockdown game / knockouts

              Originally posted by BoJackson
              how do you guys even get up for the 2nd time? Do you touch the left stick very very slightly until it steadies in the middle...THEN push up on the right?

              Cause everytime I tried to push the left stick ever so slightly to the middle, it goes over. then i try to push back and it goes over again and left it out!
              thats weird cause the second time I get knocked down i can really lay on the left stick and it takes awhile to get it going. It is not as touchy as you described.

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              • Seymour Scagnetti
                Banned
                • Oct 2006
                • 2489

                #8
                Re: knockdown game / knockouts

                Originally posted by cedwebb
                thats weird cause the second time I get knocked down i can really lay on the left stick and it takes awhile to get it going. It is not as touchy as you described.

                It's not touchy when you 1st try and move it but once it gets going it becomes much too sensitive to stop in the middle. Once I think I got it steadied in the middle as soon as I push the right stick up to get back up it starts falling quickly to one side which makes no sense.

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                • wyrm187
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 393

                  #9
                  Re: knockdown game / knockouts

                  Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
                  Your health and power of the punch have no bearing on the KD's. It's the same formula. It's 1st time easy, 2nd time incredibly tough, 3rd time impossible even if the 2nd and 3rd KD's are 7 rounds apart.

                  Forget the stupid KD mini-game. If your knocked down it all should depend on the severity of the KD and how much health you have and no user input. Whoever designed this was semi-********.
                  yeah I agree - and I think the actual 'boxing' portion of the game is true to life but this is what's ruining the game for me - same as FNR3 did, it's too damn scripted. Give us some animations with big knock out shots you aren't getting up from and randomize or at least differentiate the ability to get up (depending on puncher's power and quality of punch) from the knockdowns or this will be very stale quickly.

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                  • thelasthurtknee
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1459

                    #10
                    Re: knockdown game / knockouts

                    change your sliders. they have one for this. makes it much better. got three knockouts last night. two in first round both on second Knock down. i dont know how sliders work online if at all but if your on the same console it helps alot.

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