Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

[acts238shaun]

I am right now on a 10-12 match streak, my longest ever. I keep getting these cluber lang wanna be's that rush in and toss punches, following me all over the ring. Defense, being a joke online, is not the answer as you can't sit there and swap punches, weave, counter, punch a bunch more, etc. It gets old and starts to look like a DBZ episode minus the flying around.

I like to box, stay on the outside, find an opening/tendency and exploit it. These guys are all the same, so the tendency is bum rush and toss punches. My response is stay out of the reach, circle their jab hand and stay off the ropes and let them punch themselves out. I want to post some stats of my last three fights to let you see what I mean. I am on the right on the first two, the left on the last one.

Total Knockdowns 0 3
Punches Thrown 630 298
Punches Landed 369 152
Jabs Thrown 10 2
Jabs Landed 5 2
Punches Thrown to the Head 212 133
Punches Landed to the Head 120 76
Punches Thrown to the Body 418 165
Punches Landed to the Body 249 76

Total Knockdowns 0 3
Punches Thrown 264 229
Punches Landed 120 146
Jabs Thrown 52 18
Jabs Landed 21 4
Punches Thrown to the Head 151 116
Punches Landed to the Head 54 68
Punches Thrown to the Body 113 113
Punches Landed to the Body 66 78

Total Knockdowns 3 1
Punches Thrown 289 712
Punches Landed 159 332
Jabs Thrown 10 283
Jabs Landed 2 133
Punches Thrown to the Head 138 459
Punches Landed to the Head 58 205
Punches Thrown to the Body 151 253
Punches Landed to the Body 101 127

In all three fights I threw at least 70 haymakers, landing over 50% in each one. My opponents are connecting at less than a 50% clip, mostly because of the constant following and tossing punches. When they keep rushing I toss a haymaker here and there to the gut to slow them down and if that doesn't work I mix in a haymaker uppercut to the head and they tend to slow down a little. They will start to box a little more, as will I, and then they go back to running and swinging.

I just want to know if what I am doing is sound strategy, especially considering how most online fights go? I know half the people online don't have a clue about boxing strategy, so I guess I have adapted to the ones who toss a lot of punches. Please give an honest opinion. By the way, these were all in World Champion mode, where I am now 12-2 and ranked in the top 3000 (finally). Thanks for your honesty!

[judgejudy]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

i don't get what the point of this thread is? if you say you've won 10-12 in a row using this strategy...doesn't that tell you it works? or does somebody just need an e-pat on the back?

[acts238shaun]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

i don't get what the point of this thread is? if you say you've won 10-12 in a row using this strategy...doesn't that tell you it works? or does somebody just need an e-pat on the back?

No, that's not it. What I mean is am I cheesing or adjusting to strategy from the community viewpoint? I could care less about e-pats and I know the strategy is working. I am using their own aggressiveness against them and it is working for now. Is 70 haymakers per fight something a sim fighter would do if they are forced to do so? Boxing/defense online with auto-tracking the way it exists makes defense almost a joke. That's what I am getting at.

[judgejudy]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

the way i see it is this, you're not taking advantage of any flaw with the game, you're taking advantage of your opponents stupidity and inability to adapt. that doesn't equal cheese in my opinion.

[acts238shaun]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

the way i see it is this, you're not taking advantage of any flaw with the game, you're taking advantage of your opponents stupidity and inability to adapt. that doesn't equal cheese in my opinion.

That's what I was wondering. Thanks man.

[Sausage]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

That's what I was wondering. Thanks man.

I win using similar methods, but I tend to occasionally slug more than I would like. In all my fights that last the distance or more than 5 rounds, my opponent usually has double the punches thrown. My connect rate against 16 opponents are 68% and they land around 55%, my goal is to get them under 50%.

[acts238shaun]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

The bum rush and spam crew, I circle and make them miss. Haymakers are initially a suggestion not to spam and wear them down so they aren't throwing 100 punches a round. On top of that I try to stack my points until round five or six (skip instead of play or auto in the corner between rounds).

[acts238shaun]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

Just to show I do like to jab, lol.

Statistics WarSooie Mad Pugilist
Total Knockdowns 3 1
Punches Thrown 758 670
Punches Landed 436 287
Jabs Thrown 332 199
Jabs Landed 166 99
Punches Thrown to the Head 539 534
Punches Landed to the Head 272 201
Punches Thrown to the Body 219 136
Punches Landed to the Body 164 86

Great fight, great guy!

[phant030]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

Just Do you and get the W. Its guys that play that only block to the head. I punish the body. Punish the body. And Punish the body some more. Im not about to sit outside and box if ur not going to defend yourself.

Or if you throw head punches as i move in everytime...I'm going to bob and weave and eat on u the whole fight. Not going to sit outside and box if u aren't smart enought to mix it up.

Thats realism. Punish the weakness and stubbornness of your opponent. I'm not looking for the approval of forum guys for sim vs arcade. I'm getting the W.

If I beat the daylights out of u b/c you dont know how to defend yourself. You can throw that sim BS out the window. I could careless what the "strengths" are of my fighter. I'm going to dominate u with force. No need for points or 12 rounds.

Truth is. PPl just dont know how to defend. This body spammer, just another user who cant play the game, and passive "sim" guys allow them to dominate b/c they dont know how to defend themselves.

[teambayern]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

You're straight. I feel like once someone shows themselves to be that kind of fighter, they open themselves up to attacks of this nature.

My favorite is when I get inside guys who chase me when I'm middleweight or lower outside fighter. They catch straight after straight without getting close enough. Then when they block the head, it's haymakers to the body. I actually had one guy quit in the 2nd round and say in all caps, something like "I WON'T CHASE YOU AROUND THE RING ALL NIGHT!!! FIGHT, YOU *****!!!!" and then "YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE SIM FIGHTERS WHO THROWS 8 PUNCHES A ROUND, GET THAT **** OUT OF HERE!!!"

I was lmao all night from that one.

[acts238shaun]

Re: Need an honest opinion from some sim fighters.

I just don't like to slug it out if I can avoid it in WC mode because of the 85 chin rating auto assigned. The chin rating controls stuns and flash KO's and with guys swinging constantly I don't like the randomness of that. I do defend well, keeping most opponents under 55%, but two or three lucky punches and its lights out. You can't be countered if you aren't in their reach to be hit.

The other reason I am not big on slugging in WC is the simple fact that it's boxing, not Tekken or an episode of Dragonball where all you see is a whirling mass of fists an ducking at 90 miles an hour, which is how most want to play. It's not my fault most others don't have the attention span for six rounds, much less ten.

Baybern, I know what you mean. I played a guy last night who chased and tossed straights starting out. He threw 14 punches, landing one. He pulled the plug because I wouldn't stand there and let him hit me. I landed six of seven punches, all haymakers to the gut to deter his rushing methods. My wife, who slaughtered many a neigborhood boy in MK 2 as a kid, said "Is he stupid? He does realize - did he just quit?" I had never had someone quit inside of a minute before. I don't think I was better, I just think a lot of guys online don't want to learn how to box efficiently.