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  • Relentless
    Banned
    • Oct 2009
    • 188

    #1

    Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)



    A proposed Manny Pacquiao-Paulie Malignaggi fight could sound the death knell for Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather.


    Manny Pacquiao may indeed fight at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas on March 13, but the opponent may not be Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Promoter Bob Arum on Thursday made an offer to former world champion Paulie Malignaggi for a fight with Pacquiao on March 13. Arum extended the offer to Malignaggi promoter Lou DiBella, who could not be reached for comment on Christmas Eve.
    “Lou liked it, but he was having trouble getting a hold of Paulie to discuss it with him because of the holiday,” Arum said.




    While the offer hardly means the proposed Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is off, it makes resuscitating it that much harder. The fight, which is expected to be the highest-grossing bout in boxing history, has come to a halt over a dispute over drug testing.
    Mayweather is insisting upon testing administered by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which requires random urine and blood testing up to and including on the day of competition. Pacquiao is willing to submit blood samples, though he doesn’t want to give blood too close prior to a fight because he believes it weakens him.
    Arum said Pacquiao would submit to testing, but wants it under the auspices of the Kansas City, Mo.-based National Center for Drug Free Sports.
    “All we’re asking is to get a different agency other than (USADA) because they’re clearly inflexible,” Arum said. “We can go with this other one and they’ll come up with a protocol and get it done in an organized way and we’ll still achieve the desired results. “The bottom line is that the (National Center for Drug Free Sports) could do it and wouldn’t interfere as intrusively as USADA.”
    Arum said there appears nothing left to negotiate with the Mayweather side, because it will not back off its demand for testing by USADA. Arum said he spoke with Pacquiao’s attorney, Franklin “Jeng” Gacal on Thursday and said Gacal told him Pacquiao’s position had not changed.
    Arum said he decided to make an offer to Malignaggi because Pacquiao wants to fight before he begins his campaign for a seat in the Filipino congress.
    “(Team Mayweather) has their position and we have ours and it looks like we’re on different paths, so I made the offer to Lou (for Malignaggi),” Arum said. “No big deal.” Arum landed an unlikely ally on Thursday when super lightweight world champion Timothy Bradley spoke out in favor of his position.
    Bradley was brought into the fray when his promoter, Gary Shaw, issued a news release saying that Bradley was willing to fight either Mayweather or Pacquiao if the fight between them fell apart.
    But Shaw then did an interview with Boxingscene.com after his release became public and said Bradley wouldn’t fight Pacquiao unless Pacquiao submitted to the same testing as Mayweather was requesting.
    That would make little sense, because if Pacquiao were to accept such testing, he’d do it to fight Mayweather in what would be the richest fight in history.
    And Bradley said that’s not his position anyway. He said he hoped the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight was made.
    “This whole thing with Pacman and Mayweather is baloney with the steroid and blood testing thing,” Bradley said. “The fans want to see this fight. Everyone wants to see the fight. I want to see it. This is the fight that should be made. But this testing stuff is crazy.
    “I’m not worried about Manny Pacquiao. He’s not on steroids. Just because he’s destroying guys, you want to say he’s on steroids? Come on. He’s just that good. He’s been tested how many times and he’s never tested positive. Neither has Mayweather.” Bradley said he would fight either man if he were given an offer and said he wouldn’t demand tests, as Shaw said he would.
    He said he has confidence in commissions like the Nevada Athletic Commission and the California State Athletic Commission to properly administer testing.
    “These are big-time commissions and they have a track record of doing the right thing and protecting fighters,” he said. “They clearly take their jobs seriously. You have to do a lot to satisfy their requirements. I don’t get why anyone would be asking for these blood tests above and beyond what Nevada or California might do.
    “Neither guy has a history and I think history shows you that the boxers who have tried steroids find it doesn’t work. Look at (Fernando) Vargas. When he fought Oscar (De La Hoya), it turns out he was on steroids and he got tired. Look what happened to him. He got knocked out.”
    Boxing .. politics at its finest.. Paulie.. lmao foreal.. So Paulie is elite now lol. smh this is worse than that Yuri Foreman rumor.. and Mayweathers Matthew Hatton. Gotta love it!

    The fight i would like to see is Sugar Shane vs either or..

    If this fight doesnt come of its not only bad for boxing. but bad for Manny.

    This fight will happen just the necessary drama that boxing always seems to have..
  • Lawless66007
    Rookie
    • Jun 2009
    • 204

    #2
    Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

    Paulie is a good fighter and he pretty much destroyed Diaz but Paulie talks too much in the ring to do anything to Manny. Paulie moves quick and it seems like practice for Mayweather but Manny will destroy Paulie.
    Last edited by Lawless66007; 12-24-2009, 06:26 PM.

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    • Relentless
      Banned
      • Oct 2009
      • 188

      #3
      Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

      Originally posted by Lawless66007
      Paulie is a good fighter and he pretty much destroyed Diaz but Paulie talks too much in the ring to do anything to Manny. Paulie moves quick and it seems like practice for Mayweather but Manny will destroy Paulie.
      Yea Paulie is a good fighter.. but a B fighter.. he would get eaten by Paulie.. and punished my Mayweather.. it would be good for his pockets though.. but i dont want to see that ****..

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      • Pappy Knuckles
        LORDTHUNDERBIRD
        • Sep 2004
        • 15966

        #4
        Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

        Paulie is my boy but c'mon. This ain't what I'm trying to see right now.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #5
          Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

          This is why boxing is a dying sport.

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          • Jukeman
            Showtime
            • Aug 2005
            • 10955

            #6
            Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

            This fight aint gonna happen either...

            Manny has to do the requested drug test or he's not fighting anyone anymore...

            Paulie beleives Manny is on roids, no way he's fighting Manny after he(Manny) denied the Olympic style testing...

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            • XFactah416
              MVP
              • Oct 2008
              • 1708

              #7
              Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

              Yeah.. Paulie thinks PacMan is on some stuff, and if Pac wants to fight any more legitimate contenders, he's gonna have to abide by the random blood testing rules.

              (Link for Paulie thinking that PacMan is on some stuff: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23552)

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              • pietasterp
                All Star
                • Feb 2004
                • 6244

                #8
                Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                This is why boxing is a dying sport.
                Yeah, I couldn't agree more...the promoters have ruined a once great sporting spectacle. Why boxing is dying could be its own 50-page thread, by the way, in which only 10 people would post 100 times each (representative of the sport's fan base).

                The inmates are running the asylum...

                BTW, does anyone else think the money for Mayweather-Pacquiao would be significatly greater if this were a network-broadcast event (hello Superbowl rates for advertising)? And better for boxing in general?

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                • bigeastbumrush
                  My Momma's Son
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19245

                  #9
                  Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

                  Originally posted by pietasterp
                  Yeah, I couldn't agree more...the promoters have ruined a once great sporting spectacle. Why boxing is dying could be its own 50-page thread, by the way, in which only 10 people would post 100 times each (representative of the sport's fan base).

                  The inmates are running the asylum...

                  BTW, does anyone else think the money for Mayweather-Pacquiao would be significatly greater if this were a network-broadcast event (hello Superbowl rates for advertising)? And better for boxing in general?
                  1. More money for whom though? You think that money would go to PBF's and Pacman's camps?

                  2. Better for boxing? IMO, this fight will go to the cards, there won't be a KO. If history holds, there will be some judging controversy with the final scores. Not the thing I want to put on national TV for a sport that already has a huge black eye.

                  The paying PPV customers are going to expect it. The average viewer won't.

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                  • Complex
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2494

                    #10
                    Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

                    I hope this does not go down. To be honest, Pac could lose this fight. Now the judges/promoters will not let it happen but if allowed to play out....Paulie could get a victory.
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                    • pietasterp
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6244

                      #11
                      Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

                      Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                      1. More money for whom though? You think that money would go to PBF's and Pacman's camps?

                      2. Better for boxing? IMO, this fight will go to the cards, there won't be a KO. If history holds, there will be some judging controversy with the final scores. Not the thing I want to put on national TV for a sport that already has a huge black eye.

                      The paying PPV customers are going to expect it. The average viewer won't.

                      Yeah, maybe you're right...but the current PPV model doesn't seem to be doing that well for the sport, which by extension means it can't be that great for the fighters. And theoretically, more money in the pot should mean more money for everyone involved (fighters, promoters, etc).

                      Just to be clear, I'm not saying boxing going broadcast would definitely be better, I was just throwing it out there as a possibility, since the current state of boxing is pretty poor. I mean, I'm just trying to imagine if the Superbowl or NBA Finals were PPV - probably would shrink interest pretty quickly.

                      Of course, top boxers and promoters are multi-millionaires, so I guess there's no real incentive to change. But it seems weird to me that some of the best fighters of our time, 90% of the population has never actually seen fight. It'd be like if most people had never seen Tiger Woods play golf; there can only be so much interest there if you couldn't just flip on the tele and catch Woods scorching stingers down the left side of the fairway...

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                      • pietasterp
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6244

                        #12
                        Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

                        BTW, can I just say how poor a substitute Malignaggi-Pacquiao would be for a Mayweather-Pacquiao bout? I know I'm stating the obvious, but Arum is completely delusional if he thinks that fight would garner any interest whatsoever even amongst the most die-hard boxing fans. Malignaggi is not in the same class as Pacquiao, and this amounts to a sparring session for Pac-Man. Obviously, if offered, Paulie should take the money and run (drug testing or no), but it's crazy to think this would gross dollar one on PPV. I mean, I consider myself a boxing fan, but I might not even watch this fight if it were on "Friday Night Fights" on ESPN, unless I was home and there was nothing else on....

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                        • mattlanta
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2384

                          #13
                          Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

                          Originally posted by mattlanta
                          That's not gonna happen... there's no reason for Pacquiao to face someone like Malignaggi. It's obviously just a smokescreen. Pacquiao has two-three more fights left in him. He's not going to waste it on someone like Malignaggi, who's just opening his mouth to try to lure Pacquiao into facing him.

                          The Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is definitely going to happen. How do we know that all this bull**** itself is just a giant smoke screen to tense up the fight? We really don't know what's going on behind closed doors during negotiations. I could certainly be as wrong as many of you guys, but it just goes to show you that we really don't know lol.

                          This fight will definitely happen though. There's too much money for either boxer to walk away from. Knowing how they both love and, to a certain extent, need their money, this will be the fight of their careers, figuratively and literally.
                          Not gonna happen. Just a smoke screen. 12/27/09

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                          • pk500
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8062

                            #14
                            Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

                            Malignaggi couldn't knock a coffee cup off a countertop with his punch. He's brave, but there's no way he can hurt Manny. And Manny WILL find a way to hurt Malignaggi by pursuit at various angles.

                            I LOVE boxing. But there's no way I would buy this fight. Not a chance. It would be a next-day download.

                            Take care,
                            PK
                            Xbox Live: pk4425

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                            • MARTZball
                              The Mad Genius
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 364

                              #15
                              Re: Malinaggi Vs. Pacman....(SMH)

                              A mis-match for the ages. Can't happen. PLEASE don't make this fight. Boxing needs another shot in the arm with a Super-Fight featuring the two best P4P boxers on the planet not a mismatch that only ends badly.
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