Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

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  • thelwig14
    Banned
    • Jul 2002
    • 3145

    #16
    Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

    Originally posted by SHAKYR
    You are kidding me right? Fight Night Round 3 was a more horrible game than Fight Night Round 4! Kudo was a DoucheBag! He didn't communicate with the community at all, at least these Developers are open to feedback and I talk to them at least once a week.
    You communicate with them at least once a week? Then you are also a part of the problem. This isn't rocket science...all simple fixes, yet they choose not to...and still try and make fun of the previous development team when they equal said development team in dumb design decisions.

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    • SHAKYR
      MVP
      • Nov 2003
      • 1795

      #17
      Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

      Originally posted by thelwig14
      You communicate with them at least once a week? Then you are also a part of the problem. This isn't rocket science...all simple fixes, yet they choose not to...and still try and make fun of the previous development team when they equal said development team in dumb design decisions.
      I'm the problem? You act like I'm part of the Development teams. All I can do is tell them what the fans feel, what they want, and how dissatisfied I was with certain areas of the game.

      The producers stated on the EA forums that they moved on and will only fix major problems. You tend to forget that Kudo didn't support the game at all after the release. How many DLC's or patches did we get?

      You act like I agree with the way this game was done...I'm not! I was the first person to actually stand up and say what the fans would not agree with.

      I'm far from the problem and never was. I love boxing and want it represented realistically in a game.
      Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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      • jb12780
        Hall of Fame
        • Oct 2008
        • 10665

        #18
        Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

        Originally posted by CountryBoy74
        Is this JBels?
        Nope lol.
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        • metallicatz
          Banned
          • Sep 2003
          • 1869

          #19
          Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

          Parries because they rendered you defenseless. You can evade or block the counter punch.....and you can edit its frequency using a slider. FN4 is head and shoulders above FN3 in every concievable way.

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          • ChubbyBanana
            Don't Trust Influencers
            • Oct 2003
            • 7071

            #20
            Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

            Added Both Option For You CountryBoy.
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            • nickelplaydit
              Rookie
              • Sep 2008
              • 93

              #21
              Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

              as i read this board im hoping this is just for convo. Truthfully the Parries in rd3 are just awful..... at least with the counter windows its all about what you throw, when you throw it, and how you threw it, no more wild swinging this year...get it 2gether.. plot and plan your moves out!

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              • SHAKYR
                MVP
                • Nov 2003
                • 1795

                #22
                Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                Originally posted by nickelplaydit
                as i read this board im hoping this is just for convo. Truthfully the Parries in rd3 are just awful..... at least with the counter windows its all about what you throw, when you throw it, and how you threw it, no more wild swinging this year...get it 2gether.. plot and plan your moves out!
                So, you are saying the counters are realistically implemented?
                Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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                • nickelplaydit
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 93

                  #23
                  Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                  /o
                  Originally posted by SHAKYR
                  So, you are saying the counters are realistically implemented?
                  At this point, and as far as this game is concerned YES! realistic wouldnt exactly be the word i would use tho.....is it the best? Its better than it ever has been...can you still cheese? not as much as b4.

                  another thing about those counter windows...if the fighter/opponent is a counter puncher (i.e. Holyfield, Shane..who's prolly the best next to tyson in this game) then what do you really expect?....you have to adjust...

                  and for the record...those "wiggly" guys never beat me....ever!
                  Last edited by nickelplaydit; 02-26-2010, 10:13 AM.

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                  • Artman22
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 4984

                    #24
                    Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                    Originally posted by mesk
                    they both suck.they both are arcade gimmicks that have no place in a boxing sim
                    I love boxing, but because of this counter window I don't play the game anymore. It would be great if EA would give us the option to turn it off..
                    NBA2K is the standard of sports games period.

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                    • allBthere
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 5847

                      #25
                      Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                      Originally posted by nickelplaydit
                      At this point, and as far as this game is concerned YES! realistic wouldnt exactly be the word i would use tho.....is it the best? Its better than it ever has been...can you still cheese? not as much as b4.

                      another thing about those counter windows...if the fighter is counter puncher (i.e. Holyfield, Shane..who's prolly the best next to tyson in this game) then what do you really expect?....you have to adjust...
                      nope!

                      the fact is that counters aren't in the game at all.

                      people earlier in the thread said that 'at least you see counters in real boxing unlike parries'
                      ...well you may see counters in boxing, but in the game you only see counter window's which don't exist in boxing. If you want to counter punch you should have to time it yourself and that's all there is to it.

                      in baseball games when the ball reaches the plate, does it slow down and pause for your 'hitting window'?

                      The game is unplayable to me...counter window, footwork, no snap in punches/unsatisfying animations. Of all the FN's #1 might be the one I played/liked the most so far. #4 is last on that list.
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                      • SHAKYR
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 1795

                        #26
                        Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                        ...well you may see counters in boxing, but in the game you only see counter window's which don't exist in boxing. If you want to counter punch you should have to time it yourself and that's all there is to it.

                        in baseball games when the ball reaches the plate, does it slow down and pause for your 'hitting window'?
                        I totally agree.
                        Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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                        • nickelplaydit
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 93

                          #27
                          Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                          Originally posted by allBthere
                          nope!

                          the fact is that counters aren't in the game at all.

                          people earlier in the thread said that 'at least you see counters in real boxing unlike parries'
                          ...well you may see counters in boxing, but in the game you only see counter window's which don't exist in boxing. If you want to counter punch you should have to time it yourself and that's all there is to it.

                          in baseball games when the ball reaches the plate, does it slow down and pause for your 'hitting window'?

                          The game is unplayable to me...counter window, footwork, no snap in punches/unsatisfying animations. Of all the FN's #1 might be the one I played/liked the most so far. #4 is last on that list.
                          this is silly......to even get the counter window to appear takes timing.....the "wiggly" is an exploit that has been fixed by a patch...people still do it but i guess they didnt get the memo on that.. im sorry you dont play the game anymore but dont bash it for things the developers tried to make easier for you....nothing slows down in this game but if you threw a punch and i anticipate it or avoid it in real life (and boxing-wise) you better believe theres a window that i need to shut down...lol

                          "windows of opportunity"....thats how you should see it..

                          and i just dont agree...i understand the argument...but to say it sucks means some of yall just dont get it...

                          "counter windows dont exist in real boxing" is a line i'll always remember...wow!

                          i cant even believe im defending an EA game.....lol

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                          • SHAKYR
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 1795

                            #28
                            Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                            Originally posted by nickelplaydit
                            this is silly......to even get the counter window to appear takes timing.....the "wiggly" is an exploit that has been fixed by a patch...people still do it but i guess they didnt get the memo on that.. im sorry you dont play the game anymore but dont bash it for things the developers tried to make easier for you....nothing slows down in this game but if you threw a punch and i anticipate it or avoid it in real life (and boxing-wise) you better believe theres a window that i need to shut down...lol

                            "windows of opportunity"....thats how you should see it..

                            and i just dont agree...i understand the argument...but to say it sucks means some of yall just dont get it...

                            "counter windows dont exist in real boxing" is a line i'll always remember...wow!

                            i cant even believe im defending an EA game.....lol
                            I have over 13 years of boxing experience and never saw this window like it's implemented in the game. A counter usually comes from a well timed punch or throwing a punch after capitalizing off of a constant mistake..lazy jab, slow boxer, etc;

                            where did you think the counter happened in my fight? ....right hand right down the pipe I dropped him. (I was in the yellow shirt)
                            Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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                            • Money99
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 12695

                              #29
                              Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                              I think the counter window is a necessary evil.
                              How else can we counter realistically? I know I stink at games, but at the same time, if I had the reflexes to counter a Tyson right-hand, I wouldn't be sitting in this cubicle. I'd be champion of the world.

                              This is the first year and first boxing game for this production team. They added this feature and I think it's a good one. Of course it can be improved upon, such as lengthening, or shortening the window depending on the fighters involved and their stamina.
                              However, it doesn't ruin the game experience for me.

                              I expect we'll see a more dynamic counter-exchange in Rd 5. But for now, I can live with it as it's 1000x better than the parry's in Rd3.

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                              • CountryBoy74
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 118

                                #30
                                Re: Whats worse! The Round 3 Parry are the Mulitple Counter Windows in Round 4?

                                Originally posted by Money99
                                I think the counter window is a necessary evil.
                                How else can we counter realistically? I know I stink at games, but at the same time, if I had the reflexes to counter a Tyson right-hand, I wouldn't be sitting in this cubicle. I'd be champion of the world.

                                This is the first year and first boxing game for this production team. They added this feature and I think it's a good one. Of course it can be improved upon, such as lengthening, or shortening the window depending on the fighters involved and their stamina.
                                However, it doesn't ruin the game experience for me.

                                I expect we'll see a more dynamic counter-exchange in Rd 5. But for now, I can live with it as it's 1000x better than the parry's in Rd3.
                                They both sucked an it is a very, very cheesy gimmick. You cannot even have a good fight on or offline without that crap opening up.

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