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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
no wonder casuals don't know what they are talking about most of the time..Mayweather, who accused Pacquiao of using performance-enhancing drugs despite having no evidence, had insisted on strict blood and urine testing, which was employed during the lead-up and immediate aftermath of his fight with Mosley.
Nice way to say Mayweather without appying it was Floyd Sr..
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
"Breaking news"
Manny Pacquiao attributes Shane Mosley's loss on Saturday to being weakened by blood testing. J/K
Hahaha. It doesn't matter what day Manny agrees to, if he loses this will be the excuse he uses despite no one else using it. And somehow Money is the one that is obsessed with his record. Hell at least he's undefeated.Comment
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
The 14 day cut off was Floyd's compromise proposal when they went to mediation to try and work out a deal...Why would he not accept his own proposal now?
Even if they agree on the testing I see a big money beef arising now...Pacquiao/Clottey did under a 1 million buys and couldn't sell out a downsized cowboy stadium...Mayweather/Mosley is rumored to have done anywhere between 1.5-2.0 million buys...Couple that in with the fact Mayweather has the edge in PPV buys against common opponents and it makes no sense for him to agree to 50/50 anymore...Comment
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
Exactly while i cant blame him.. but i wannna see this fight come of 60 to the winner 40 to the loser.. floyd made tons of concessions for the first fight.. now he has the upper hand it would be rediculous to think he would do the sameComment
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
I agree. Floyd is the bigger draw.
But I have a feeling that Pacquio-Mosley would have produced more PPV buys than Mayweather-Clottey.
If this fight is off due to split of purse I'll be pissed. Both guys should take 50/50 and STFU.Comment
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
Why should they STFU and make an unfair compromise though? That's like saying if some celebrity show had a basketball tournament that the fans were clamoring to see the NBA's best going at it in one on one games, LeBron and Kobe should STFU and accept the same amount as Rajon Rondo and Carlos Boozer to play in it. Mayweather is the bigger star and his name is going to carry the fight more than Pacquiao's. If Pacquiao wants a 50/50 purse split, then he should of took the damn drug test a few months ago and rode off into the sunset 40-50 million dollars richer. He chose to be a jackass and walk away from it so now he deals with the consequences of his actions. The demands he made before he now loses the stroke to demand it because he allowed his negotiating partner to up his worth.Comment
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
I've always believed in incentives. So it's not pBF gets 60 and pac gets 40%
it's more the winner gets 60% and the loser gets 40% or 70-30 haha
that way you fight to win that bacon baby!Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.Comment
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
Wrong.
There's no way on earth that Mayweather-Clottey would have outsold Pacquio-Mosley. Not a chance.
Pacquio-Cotto earned 1.6M buys.
Mayweather-Marquez did 1M buys.
Marquez is a much bigger name that Clottey, just like Mosley is better known than Cotto. So if Mayweather could barely scratch 1M PPV's for Marquez while Pacquio did 1.5M for Cotto, one can easily come to the conclusion that Pacquio-Mosley would have beaten Mayweather-Clottey.
Nobody outside of diehard boxing fans even knows who Clottey is. But everyone knows Mosley.Comment
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
Can ESPN be any more biased? Has anyone noticed that everyone is making a big deal about Pacquiao 'stepping up' to compromise down to 14 days as if that wasn't were Floyd had already compromised to? Was watching 1st and 10 cause seeing how big an idiot Skip Bayless is for money is amusing. He basically just told a flat out lie. Saying that there was movement from Pacman with this 14 day thing but Floyd has all along said it's gotta be all the way or nothing like he and Shane are doing.
I mean...what kind of freakin' world are we living in where people can actually blatantly lie like this, get paid for it and have people actually believe it? ESPN is championing this guy for compromising to a time frame that was already thrown out as a compromise during the original negotiations.Comment
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Re: My maaan: let the madness begin Paq v. PBF
Floyd might not have that much leverage.
Early numbers are showing that the Mosley fight only earned 1.1-1.2M buys.
I heard the promoters talking about 2.5M. I have to say I'm shocked at the low number myself.
This is a fight with two big marquee names - well known names in the US.
If it only did 400K more than Pacquio-Clottey, and 500K less than Pac's fight with a lesser known Cotto I'm not sure Mayweather can say he deserves a much larger split of the purse.
AllBthere's suggestion would never happen but I think that's how it should go; 40/40 split with 20% going to the winner.
Also, while many boxing purists on these boards can appreciate the immense skill Mayweather brings to the table, the average fan doesn't care.
I've heard too many people in the office and calling into sports stations complain with how boring Mayweather is. Since moving to 147 his finishing power is nearly extinct.
The average joe, which probably makes up 80% of the PPV buys, wants to see guys get knocked out.
It's no different than a casual UFC fan (like myself) watching a submission expert. I can't stand watching guys roll around on the ground looking for a choke rather than beating someone senseless.
And I think that's why Mayweather has created this badguy image. He knows it helps sell and he's brilliant for doing so. Because outside of diehard boxing fans, his style is boring.
There's a reason why fighters like John L. Sullivan, Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, Hearns, etc. are still talked about to this day.
Mayweather needs Pac.Comment
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