Pacquiao to Fight Margarito in November

[Illustrator76]

Re: Pacquiao to Fight Margarito in November

Can't we just keep this discussion about Manny vs. Margarito? We've already been through the Floyd and Manny thing in the other thread, and the same people who have suddenly refused to respond to pure facts proving that Floyd is a liar (SI is now reporting through MULTIPLE sources that negotiations were taking place for a Floyd vs. Manny fight, link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ito/index.html) are now in here blowing their Mayweather horn. This thread is about someone who is actually willing to fight, and that man is Manny Pacquiao.

For the record, I don't want to see Manny vs. Margarito either, it's kind of a no-win for Manny in my opinion. Margarito has everything to gain by winning this fight, and Manny has nothing to gain by winning, but a whole lot to lose by losing.

[mattlanta]

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I'm kind of on Pac's "side" ...but WTH? why sign a fight right away? They could have at least put more pressure on floyd or called him out etc.

This SUCKS! I don't want to see this fight AT ALL. All this does is push back the only fight people want to see even more.

Mayweather clearly said he was taking a break from boxing. So the negotiations were off at that point. It takes time to advertise a fight. Pacquiao's schedule, being a senator and all, is at a limited one so if he was to fight, he would need to start training sooner.

[mattlanta]

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Who the hell wants to watch this fight?

Arum is stupid.

I am going to watch it only because I'm a Pacquiao fan but I really don't want to give any of my money to Plasterito.

Aaaand the PPV buys for this will be incredibly weak.

Wait... what?

[mattlanta]

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Fight makes no sense, and quite frankly its one he could lose.

He fights fighters that can actually beat him... hmm... sounds like the opposite of another very well known boxer.

I would have gone on FNF's, and other ESPN shows and started saying "I did what he wanted and he STILL won't fight me"

I would have tried to make it impossible for him to get out of the fight without looking stupid.

IMO this fight was taken too fast, he could have kept riding Floyd and ramped up the pressure.

Now if they were to fight it will almost be a year away. That is just stupid.

And to add to that, no one wants to see this fight. The ONLY fight they want to see is Floyd vs Pac when it comes to these two guys.

What if Floyd takes a fight now and it's in January? After that, if they negotiate again, the fight won't actually go down for a long time, AND they will find a way to screw it up.

I would have liked to see Pac and his Camp be completely relentless to get this fight done and give absolutely no way out for Floyd. Instead they made it easy on Floyd, the pressure is gone and next time they sit down, they have to do this circus act all over again.

Pathetic.

LMAO at that terrible logic. Arum said things himself. So how come the Mayweather camp didn't come out and make any comments? Except Mayweather's uncle (not Rog) saying that there were no negotiations that took place? Seriously? No negotiations? Come on... if the Mayweathers don't want to fight, then the Mayweathers aren't going to fight. There's no use in sitting around when you can be making money. And in Arum's case, Pacquiao is the cash cow.

[Money99]

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That's the same as Pac giving into Floyd's blood test demands which he did. The ball was in Floyd's court and he passed. He doesn't want to fight Pac. That much is inarguably clear.

Absolutely. DLH confirmed they were in talks, and then Floyd goes and says he's not interested in boxing right now and they weren't even speaking to Arum.
Floyd fans don't have one leg to stand on any more. Floyd is clearly ducking Pac and has zero interest in fighting him. I'm sure 2 years from now, and 3-4 wars later, when Pac is worn out and beaten, THEN Floyd will fight him.
But he is scared to death of a prime Pacquio. There is absolutely no disputing that anymore regardless if you love or hate Floyd.

If I were Pac, I'd go out of my way to call out Mayweather at every turn. I'd come into the ring with a "Kentucky Floyd Chicken" emblem on my robe.
I'd go on every talk show and label him a coward and panzy for not fighting me.
Make his life miserable to the point where he has no choice but to admit he's a giant chicken or get in the ring.

Regarding his fight with Margarito, it's a lose-lose for Pac.
If he wins, Floyd might die from fear and he'll never get in the ring with Pac.
If he loses, Floyd says "See, he ain't that good" and won't feel the need to fight him.
If it's a war, win or lose, it'll take a lot out of Pac and could possibly change him as a fighter from here on out - which is what Floyd is dearly praying for.

In any event, Floyd haters like me are happy. His legacy is trash. He finally has a chance to fight an equal, in their prime, and he RUNS, RUNS, RUNS away as fast as possible.
I don't care what anyone will claim. If Floyd finally fights him 2 years from now and wins, it won't matter. A prime Pac beats a prime Mayweather and Floyd knows it. His failing to take this fight is all the proof I need.

[Kanobi]

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Floyd is clearly ducking Pac and has zero interest in fighting him. I'm sure 2 years from now, and 3-4 wars later, when Pac is worn out and beaten, THEN Floyd will fight him. But he is scared to death of a prime Pacquio.

Yep. I said in the other thread that I saw no way for PBF to beat Pac right now. One Floyd fan (who is M.I.A lately on the subject) tried to debate me (which is still pretty funny looking back at it) but apparently even Floyd himself agrees with my stance.

In terms of the Pac/Margarito fight. I'm on the other side of the fence. I actually kinda like it because, as somebody mentioned earlier, Pac has nothing to gain and Margarito does pose a threat. That makes things somewhat interesting. My only disappointment is I'd have preferred Pac fight Berto because IMO Margarito is the lesser of the two.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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No point in bellyaching about the non-event that is Pacquiao\Mayweather.

Floyd will NEVER fight Manny in his prime. The fight will NEVER happen, EVER. I've said it before and I'm saying it again. The more people understand this the less disappointed they will be. The 2 boxers might as well have fought in 2 different eras because there's as much chance of them fighting if they were born 30 years apart as there is now.

Even if somehow they agreed to terms in the next year because of all the pressure that Floyd is getting in ducking him, Floyd will get "injured" during training or simply "retire" again a month before the fight. Trust me he will have some sort of clause put in that he could pull out of the fight weeks beforehand and not be penalized for it.

[Illustrator76]

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Absolutely. DLH confirmed they were in talks, and then Floyd goes and says he's not interested in boxing right now and they weren't even speaking to Arum.
Floyd fans don't have one leg to stand on any more. Floyd is clearly ducking Pac and has zero interest in fighting him. I'm sure 2 years from now, and 3-4 wars later, when Pac is worn out and beaten, THEN Floyd will fight him.
But he is scared to death of a prime Pacquio. There is absolutely no disputing that anymore regardless if you love or hate Floyd.

If I were Pac, I'd go out of my way to call out Mayweather at every turn. I'd come into the ring with a "Kentucky Floyd Chicken" emblem on my robe.
I'd go on every talk show and label him a coward and panzy for not fighting me.
Make his life miserable to the point where he has no choice but to admit he's a giant chicken or get in the ring.

Regarding his fight with Margarito, it's a lose-lose for Pac.
If he wins, Floyd might die from fear and he'll never get in the ring with Pac.
If he loses, Floyd says "See, he ain't that good" and won't feel the need to fight him.
If it's a war, win or lose, it'll take a lot out of Pac and could possibly change him as a fighter from here on out - which is what Floyd is dearly praying for.

In any event, Floyd haters like me are happy. His legacy is trash. He finally has a chance to fight an equal, in their prime, and he RUNS, RUNS, RUNS away as fast as possible.
I don't care what anyone will claim. If Floyd finally fights him 2 years from now and wins, it won't matter. A prime Pac beats a prime Mayweather and Floyd knows it. His failing to take this fight is all the proof I need.

Awesome post Money99, you have echoed every single point that I have been making the past few months. Floyd is a coward, I have known that and have been saying that for a while now. He has done nothing but prove every point that I have made about him to be 100% accurate. What I find funny is that there is still one sad Mayweather supporter in particular that will still continue to flat out distort reality just to defend Floyd........it's over........give up........Floyd did.

Now, back to Manny vs. Margarito. I say Manny wins in 7 rounds by TKO.

[mattlanta]

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Awesome post Money99, you have echoed every single point that I have been making the past few months. Floyd is a coward, I have known that and have been saying that for a while now. He has done nothing but prove every point that I have made about him to be 100% accurate. What I find funny is that there is still one sad Mayweather supporter in particular that will still continue to flat out distort reality just to defend Floyd........it's over........give up........Floyd did.

Now, back to Manny vs. Margarito. I say Manny wins in 7 rounds by TKO.

It's pointless to argue with Mayweather homers. Were you here when Mayweather beat Mosley? It seemed like Mayweather homers were all over the place. Notice I said homers, and not fans. Unfortunately, 95% of Mayweathers' fans happen to be homers as well.

As for the fight, it's definitely going to be more fun to watch than the Clottey fight. That fight was boring as hell. Margarito isn't given the credit as a boxer, and rightfully so because of the whole illegally loaded gloves debacle. But if Margarito was that, then why would everyone be making a huge deal about Mosley beating Margarito?

[Illustrator76]

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It's pointless to argue with Mayweather homers. Were you here when Mayweather beat Mosley? It seemed like Mayweather homers were all over the place. Notice I said homers, and not fans. Unfortunately, 95% of Mayweathers' fans happen to be homers as well.

As for the fight, it's definitely going to be more fun to watch than the Clottey fight. That fight was boring as hell. Margarito isn't given the credit as a boxer, and rightfully so because of the whole illegally loaded gloves debacle. But if Margarito was that, then why would everyone be making a huge deal about Mosley beating Margarito?

Before the whole hands debacle, Margarito was one of my favorite fighters, there was a time when almost everyone in the welterweight division ducked him, and for good reason (at the time). Apparently, he offered "The Coward" his biggest payday at the time, and as usual, he ducked Margarito (and it had nothing to do with the loaded gloves, no one even knew of/suspected that at the time). Margarito's style is awkward, and before the Mosley fight, he had shown an uncanny ability to walk down opponents even when he is getting hit with a barrage of shots. People can say what they want to about whether or not he was loading his gloves, but in that Cotto fight Margarito simply broke Cotto's spirit by walking down shots that would have KO'd other fighters.

Margarito will not be a pushover, but I do wonder about his overall mental state after the whole plaster in the gloves deal. I think it will be a decent fight, but after seeing what Mosley did to Margarito, I don't see how he can beat Manny....then again, you never know.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Pacquiao to Fight Margarito in November

Can't we just keep this discussion about Manny vs. Margarito? We've already been through the Floyd and Manny thing in the other thread, and the same people who have suddenly refused to respond to pure facts proving that Floyd is a liar (SI is now reporting through MULTIPLE sources that negotiations were taking place for a Floyd vs. Manny fight, link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ito/index.html) are now in here blowing their Mayweather horn. This thread is about someone who is actually willing to fight, and that man is Manny Pacquiao.

For the record, I don't want to see Manny vs. Margarito either, it's kind of a no-win for Manny in my opinion. Margarito has everything to gain by winning this fight, and Manny has nothing to gain by winning, but a whole lot to lose by losing.

Awesome post Money99, you have echoed every single point that I have been making the past few months. Floyd is a coward, I have known that and have been saying that for a while now. He has done nothing but prove every point that I have made about him to be 100% accurate. What I find funny is that there is still one sad Mayweather supporter in particular that will still continue to flat out distort reality just to defend Floyd........it's over........give up........Floyd did.

Now, back to Manny vs. Margarito. I say Manny wins in 7 rounds by TKO.

Dude, if you have something to say to me, then put my name on it and say it or send me a PM and stop trying to take little 'subtle' (that aren't subtle at all cause I know who you're talking about) potshots at me because I don't worship at Pacquiao's feet like you. I've admitted in this topic that Floyd doesn't want to fight Pacquiao. What gets me is everyone trying to pin blame on ONE person and ignore facts about the whole thing. They're both ducking each other. If Pacquiao accepts the damn blood testing demands in the first place and not suddenly develop a fear of everything this fight has happened already. Instead he waits until he's a senator and Floyd's trainer is looking at a long trial and jail time to get over his fear of needles (LOL) gives a tough guy deadline and when Mayweather doesn't bow to it here come all the Floyd haters flooding the forum with 'I told you so' and 'Floyd will use whatever excuse he can' and so on and so on that completely ignores the excuse making that got us to this point in the first place. These two guys can get this fight done at any time but they don't wanna fight each other and that's why we're where we're at.

Since you're so big on not being a coward and all this other stuff why don't you try not being one the next time you have something on your mind about me and address me like a man. I'd rather not get banned over this situation so I'll just leave it at that and try to avoid you from here on out.

[Illustrator76]

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Dude, if you have something to say to me, then put my name on it and say it or send me a PM and stop trying to take little 'subtle' (that aren't subtle at all cause I know who you're talking about) potshots at me because I don't worship at Pacquiao's feet like you. I've admitted in this topic that Floyd doesn't want to fight Pacquiao. What gets me is everyone trying to pin blame on ONE person and ignore facts about the whole thing. They're both ducking each other. If Pacquiao accepts the damn blood testing demands in the first place and not suddenly develop a fear of everything this fight has happened already. Instead he waits until he's a senator and Floyd's trainer is looking at a long trial and jail time to get over his fear of needles (LOL) gives a tough guy deadline and when Mayweather doesn't bow to it here come all the Floyd haters flooding the forum with 'I told you so' and 'Floyd will use whatever excuse he can' and so on and so on that completely ignores the excuse making that got us to this point in the first place. These two guys can get this fight done at any time but they don't wanna fight each other and that's why we're where we're at.

Since you're so big on not being a coward and all this other stuff why don't you try not being one the next time you have something on your mind about me and address me like a man. I'd rather not get banned over this situation so I'll just leave it at that and try to avoid you from here on out.

Whatever man, I CLEARLY quoted your last post in the Mayweather vs. Manny thread and I gave clear proof that Floyd was lying and destroyed your "alternate reality" where exclusive negotiations between the two camps never took place and that Bob Arum made the whole thing up. Then you mysteriously disappeared from that thread and decided to carry the Floyd trumpeting and Bob Arum bashing in to this thread. Don't start with all of that "man up" stuff, you're the one who disappeared from the other thread once it was clearly established that Floyd is a coward and is lying through his teeth. No reason to start beating your chest about the whole thing now.

Since you are going to avoid me now, I will most gladly do the same to you.

Back on topic, as I said, I think Manny will TKO Margarito in round 7, Margarito is tough, but he just didn't look as tough as he used to after being outted for the loaded gloves against Mosley. Or maybe all of the punishment that Margarito has taken is finally starting to catch up to him.

[Beantown]

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This thread has nothing to do with Mayweather Vs Pacquiao. That ship has sailed.

One more post about "Floyd homers," or one more post bashing Mayweather in this thread will not be tolerated. You want to talk about Pac/PBF, go to a different thread.

Keep this thread on the Pac/Margarito fight. Thanks.

[Jukeman]

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Cotto or Marg...

Great decisions

[mattlanta]

Re: Pacquiao to Fight Margarito in November

Cotto or Marg...

Great decisions

All fighters that Pacquiao faces from here on out would be considered 'inferior choices' that everyone would be disappointed in except that one fighter who must not be named in this thread. At this point, Arum is just trying to keep all the money to himself. Keeping the money in Top Rank.