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  • HotSauce2k3
    MVP
    • Nov 2002
    • 1848

    #1

    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

    Their first meeting was exciting from beginning to end. This should be another fun one. Thoughts? Who do you have winning?

    I think JMM takes this. He's old and on his way out, but he's still JMM, and Juan Diaz has looked worse and worse with every fight. Diaz is one dimensional, and JMM will be prepared this time around.

  • Kanobi
    H*F Cl*ss *f '09
    • Apr 2003
    • 6054

    #2
    Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

    Originally posted by HotSauce2k3
    Thoughts? Who do you have winning?
    I definitely know who's losin....anybody who pays the ridiculous $50-$60 to watch this sh*t
    Last edited by Kanobi; 07-30-2010, 04:36 AM.

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    • HotSauce2k3
      MVP
      • Nov 2002
      • 1848

      #3
      Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

      Oh I'm not paying.

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      • Kanobi
        H*F Cl*ss *f '09
        • Apr 2003
        • 6054

        #4
        Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

        Originally posted by HotSauce2k3
        Oh I'm not paying.
        Neither am I

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        • pk500
          All Star
          • Jul 2002
          • 8062

          #5
          Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

          Originally posted by Kanobi
          I definitely know who's losin....anybody who pays the ridiculous $50-$60 to watch this sh*t
          Why? This is the most comprehensive quality PPV card in boxing in years.

          Marquez-Diaz was the Fight of the Year last year. No reason the rematch shouldn't be as compelling.

          Danny Jacobs and Dmitry Pirog are two of the top rising stars in the middleweight class. Jacobs is a future world champion, and Pirog is no slouch.

          Robert Guerrero-Joel Casamayor is compelling. Guerrero is a promising young talent, and while Casamayor is fading, he's still Joel Effing Casamayor. Plenty of tricks and experience to counter Guerrero's youth. Should be a competitive bout.

          Finally, the Rocky Juarez-Jorge Linares fight is a saga of two guys desperate to stay relevant. And desperation breeds great fights. Juarez has fallen just short in a few title fights -- looking very good in his draw against Chris John -- and knows this could be his last top fight if he loses. Linares was a can't-miss prospect until he was knocked out last year in the first round by Salgado. Can he rebuild his career with a solid victory over a tough, veteran foe?

          This card isn't as stacked as some of the Don King cards of the 80s or 90s, but it's easily better than any piece of PPV trash that Golden Boy or Top Rank has dragged to the curb in the last five years and encouraged us to buy.

          If you say otherwise, then you know less about boxing than you think. This is a good card, well worth $50.
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          • Sausage
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 3905

            #6
            Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

            Originally posted by pk500
            Why? This is the most comprehensive quality PPV card in boxing in years.

            Marquez-Diaz was the Fight of the Year last year. No reason the rematch shouldn't be as compelling.

            Danny Jacobs and Dmitry Pirog are two of the top rising stars in the middleweight class. Jacobs is a future world champion, and Pirog is no slouch.

            Robert Guerrero-Joel Casamayor is compelling. Guerrero is a promising young talent, and while Casamayor is fading, he's still Joel Effing Casamayor. Plenty of tricks and experience to counter Guerrero's youth. Should be a competitive bout.

            Finally, the Rocky Juarez-Jorge Linares fight is a saga of two guys desperate to stay relevant. And desperation breeds great fights. Juarez has fallen just short in a few title fights -- looking very good in his draw against Chris John -- and knows this could be his last top fight if he loses. Linares was a can't-miss prospect until he was knocked out last year in the first round by Salgado. Can he rebuild his career with a solid victory over a tough, veteran foe?

            This card isn't as stacked as some of the Don King cards of the 80s or 90s, but it's easily better than any piece of PPV trash that Golden Boy or Top Rank has dragged to the curb in the last five years and encouraged us to buy.

            If you say otherwise, then you know less about boxing than you think. This is a good card, well worth $50.
            This is exactly what I was thinking. They probably didn't know they loaded the undercard with quality matches. I will be getting this, because it is still a pleasure to watch JMM apply his trade and I am also excited to watch "Baby Bull" do his thing; if he wasn't one dimensional, we wouldn't have fell in love with his heart and grit.

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            • Complex
              MVP
              • Oct 2005
              • 2494

              #7
              Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

              I don't see how Diaz wins this. Unless he comes in with something new.
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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #8
                Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

                Originally posted by Complex
                I don't see how Diaz wins this. Unless he comes in with something new.
                Or loaded gloves...

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                • HotSauce2k3
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 1848

                  #9
                  Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

                  Undercard:

                  Rocky Juarez vs Jorge Linares:
                  Spoiler

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                  • mrprice33
                    Just some guy
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5986

                    #10
                    Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

                    Anybody else having serious difficulties with the ppv right now?

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                    • HotSauce2k3
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 1848

                      #11
                      Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

                      Main event finally...

                      First round goes to Marquez. Diaz trying to box with him... big mistake. He had moments but JMM had more.

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                      • HotSauce2k3
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 1848

                        #12
                        Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

                        Diaz with a bit more success in the 2nd round but still getting touched up. JMM is just that sharp. However, reflex-wise JMM is definitely showing his age. Diaz isn't applying pressure though so the pace is on JMM's side.

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                        • HotSauce2k3
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 1848

                          #13
                          Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

                          Diaz takes round 3 convincingly. PBF's win over JMM looking less and less impressive when the Baby Bull is beating JMM to the punch and successfully countering.

                          EDIT: JMM takes round 4, sending Diaz into a shell for most of the round after connecting with some nasty shots.

                          JMM takes 5. Diaz controlled the first minute with his jab but JMM opened up and continued to connect with solid punches.

                          Diaz was on his way to taking round 6, but JMM rocked him again with a hard left hook at the end of the round. GOtta give it to JMM.

                          Getting to the point where Diaz needs to start getting aggressive...
                          Last edited by HotSauce2k3; 07-31-2010, 11:28 PM.

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                          • Kanobi
                            H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 6054

                            #14
                            Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

                            Originally posted by pk500
                            Why? This is the most comprehensive quality PPV card in boxing in years.

                            Marquez-Diaz was the Fight of the Year last year. No reason the rematch shouldn't be as compelling.

                            Danny Jacobs and Dmitry Pirog are two of the top rising stars in the middleweight class. Jacobs is a future world champion, and Pirog is no slouch.

                            Robert Guerrero-Joel Casamayor is compelling. Guerrero is a promising young talent, and while Casamayor is fading, he's still Joel Effing Casamayor. Plenty of tricks and experience to counter Guerrero's youth. Should be a competitive bout.

                            Finally, the Rocky Juarez-Jorge Linares fight is a saga of two guys desperate to stay relevant. And desperation breeds great fights. Juarez has fallen just short in a few title fights -- looking very good in his draw against Chris John -- and knows this could be his last top fight if he loses. Linares was a can't-miss prospect until he was knocked out last year in the first round by Salgado. Can he rebuild his career with a solid victory over a tough, veteran foe?

                            This card isn't as stacked as some of the Don King cards of the 80s or 90s, but it's easily better than any piece of PPV trash that Golden Boy or Top Rank has dragged to the curb in the last five years and encouraged us to buy.

                            If you say otherwise, then you know less about boxing than you think. This is a good card, well worth $50.
                            Did you buy the fight?

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                            • Complex
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2494

                              #15
                              Re: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz II 7/31/2010

                              Juan Diaz has unquestionable heart and will. I would rank him in the top 10 of fighters right now in those areas. He is hard to break down and break overall. He just ran into a highly skilled fighter. Marquez is A-list through and through. He is an excellent counter puncher, and very crafty in the ring. He knows how to box and he knows how to adjust.

                              If Diaz ever developed power, or a punch technique that gives him some serious pop he would be 5x more formidable. He also needs to stop telegraphing his punches. Feints, and jabbing to set up combos would be a good bet. Another option for Diaz is to take his work rate to the body. If he did half the volume of his punches to the body, he could wear his opponents down to wear this other punches did damage.
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