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  • N51_rob
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    • Jul 2003
    • 14805
    #31
    Originally posted by game20ver
    Fights like this are the reason why boxing needs to follow UFC's lead and put a few interesting fights on the undercard.
    The undercard wasn't telivised. You buy any major boxing PPV there are between 4-6 other fights shown on that card.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106
        #32
        Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

        Originally posted by game20ver
        Fights like this are the reason why boxing needs to follow UFC's lead and put a few interesting fights on the undercard.
        Boxing cant afford to do that. When you have guys in the main event making millions, you cant afford to hire decent fighters for the undercard.

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          • SoMiss2000
            Hall Of Fame
            • Oct 2002
            • 20499
            #33
            Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

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              • jtdribbles25
                Banned
                • Aug 2003
                • 1415
                #34
                Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                what a great blindly thrown punch. disappointed that the fight didn't have a chance to be great tho.

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                  • iLLmatic
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 1103
                    #35
                    Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                    Paul got caught dropping that right hand and got knocked. I am actually surprised it hadn't happened sooner. He is known for his above average chin, but I've seen a few fights with him leaving himself open just like he did tonight but no one caught him. He and his trainers have got work to do on his defense. Martinez just showed everyone that as good a fighter as Williams is, he gets sloppy and can be caught.

                    And as Complex said, he needs to learn that his height and reach is truly his advantage with him being 6'2 and having the reach of an octopus. Being a fan of Williams and his style, I expected better but then again Martinez is no slouch.

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                      • grunt
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 9527
                        #36
                        Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                        Only watched Paul fight once before but his defense was loosy goosy. Anytime a fighter is known for a good chin the question is why do we know that you have a good chin. Sergio landed consistently last fight. Congrats Sergio.

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                        How can a fighter on this level hold his hands so low? Sergio trainer said he notice this the first time the night before the fight but poor defense is just a pet peeve. A fighter should throw and defend and if they have good technique when they throw the defense is built into the punch. The quality of boxers are really poor.

                        I used to watch boxers with better technique on USA Tuesday Night Fights back in the early 90's. Who is the heck is Paul trainer?
                        Last edited by grunt; 11-21-2010, 04:32 AM.

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                          • Kanobi
                            H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 6054
                            #37
                            Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                            Originally posted by pietasterp
                            I dunno...having now watched the replay a bunch of times, I think it was sort of a lucky shot.
                            It was definitely a lucky shot. It was a blind punch with ALL of Martinez' weight behind it and was straight from a street/backyard type of fight. Williams didn't see it at all and got slept.

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                              • JayBee74
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 22989
                                #38
                                Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                                Originally posted by Kanobi
                                It was definitely a lucky shot. It was a blind punch with ALL of Martinez' weight behind it and was straight from a street/backyard type of fight. Williams didn't see it at all and got slept.
                                It was definitely a devastating shot and a devastating blow to William's career. I wonder if Floyd would be willing to fight this guy at 154?

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                                  • HotSauce2k3
                                    MVP
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 1848
                                    #39
                                    Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                                    I really doubt it was a lucky shot. He saw he had that opening and connected with the short left hook a couple times before the KO. Martinez knew what he was doing and he went for the kill. The only reason it "looked" like a lucky shot was because he laid his whole body into that punch which forced his body to turn, but he knew where it was going to land. Watch the replay. The whole fight is on youtube, at least for now.
                                    Last edited by HotSauce2k3; 11-21-2010, 09:19 AM.

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                                      • grunt
                                        Banned
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 9527
                                        #40
                                        Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                                        Originally posted by JayBee74
                                        It was definitely a devastating shot and a devastating blow to William's career. I wonder if Floyd would be willing to fight this guy at 154?
                                        He should fight someone at 154 but that would be his limits but I don't think Manny would fight at 154.

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                                          • bigeastbumrush
                                            My Momma's Son
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 19245
                                            #41
                                            Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                                            Originally posted by JayBee74
                                            It was definitely a devastating shot and a devastating blow to William's career. I wonder if Floyd would be willing to fight this guy at 154?
                                            There's not enough money for him to take that fight.

                                            Originally posted by grunt
                                            Only watched Paul fight once before but his defense was loosy goosy. Anytime a fighter is known for a good chin the question is why do we know that you have a good chin.
                                            LOL...yeah. Subpar defense.

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                                              • Kanobi
                                                H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                                                • Apr 2003
                                                • 6054
                                                #42
                                                Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                                                Originally posted by HotSauce2k3
                                                I really doubt it was a lucky shot. He saw he had that opening and connected with the short left hook a couple times before the KO. Martinez knew what he was doing and he went for the kill. The only reason it "looked" like a lucky shot was because he laid his whole body into that punch which forced his body to turn, but he knew where it was going to land. Watch the replay. The whole fight is on youtube, at least for now.
                                                You're absolutely right Hotsauce. Initial Slow mo replay, while watching the fight live last night, made it appear like a blind punch but re-watching the fight at full speed, you see Martinez saw the opening and pulled the trigger. And Martinez had actually caught Williams with a few clean hooks earlier in that same round. So the KO punch definitely wasn't just out of nowhere.

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                                                  • Complex
                                                    MVP
                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                    • 2494
                                                    #43
                                                    Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                                                    The punch was not lucky, he threw it a few times in the first fight and in this one (or similar ones). It is no secret that Paul does NOT use his height and leans in to punch with his hands down. 90% of the time he could absorb the blow and deliver 3-4 in return to offset. Anytime he has been stunned it is usually due to the type of tactic Martinez utilized.
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                                                      • Complex
                                                        MVP
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 2494
                                                        #44
                                                        Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                                                        Floyd at Manny at 154 does not work and is too big for either. It would be only for the sake of making a fight. This is one of the few sports where guys do this. You don't see the Patriots playing the Panthers every week to get a win or a Division II team.
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                                                          • Kanobi
                                                            H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                            • 6054
                                                            #45
                                                            Re: Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez II

                                                            Originally posted by Complex
                                                            It is no secret that Paul does NOT use his height
                                                            I hate that about Williams. At his height and with his reach, he should be far more dominant. His jab alone should be winning fights for him. That's why, outside of physical build, I don't agree with the Hearns comparisons.

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