FN: Champion Blog #3 - Community Questions

[Phobia]

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Phobia can obviously answer this better than I can, but I thought he mentioned how a one-punch KO can happen when you land a strong punch clean on the chin.
With the new accuracy system and different ratings between punches, it sounds a lot more realistic. So just like in real boxing, if you land that one clean shot and it's one of the fighters strong punch, you have a better chance of a one-punch KO.

Yea Money pretty much nailed it. It never felt as if "ohhh I guess i win". You could clearly see that a clean landed shot is what did it. I never saw a 1 punch KO that was not a big shot.

Now what I want people to understand and not confuse. I think some people over at the different boards I been reading have a hard time understanding the difference from a 1 punch KO and 1 punch knockdown.

1 Punch KO - Is just that. One clean punch landed which KOed the opponent and there is no get up "mini game". You got caught flush, your fighter is out the fight, fight over.

1 Punch Knockdown - Aka Flash Knockdown. This is where one clean punch landed and knocked the opponent down, BUT the get up game is there and the match can continue if he can get to his feet.

[allBthere]

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Phob:

Do the punches look like they have some weight behind them?

Yea the punches look much better and have good power to them. But this also depends on the connection. If it is a glancing blow then of course it will look weak, but if it lands flush as they are moving into it then you would see much more POP with sweat flying off.



***** This is a two part process to me.

1) being the actual punch and 2) being the reaction.

I agree glancing blows should not looks devastating in terms of reaction to the contact.

BUT...Punches hitting or missing, especially power shots should look a little vicious. Sometimes you'll see a fight and the crowd oooh's because the guy just missed, yet everyone in the building knows the punch would take someone's head off.

My problem with FN4 was that the punches looked like someone who'd taken 5 or 6 sleeping pills in many of the animations - that's why the game only looked good in super slow mo, because in real time the actual punches seemed to come from weak babies lol.

so we're looking for both the cause and effect here. Larry holmes jab should fly out with quite a mean snap!

[phillyfan23]

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hey phobia..my previous question was regarding the cross/straights power, and you responded by saying that EACH fighter will have their " go-to punch", which is great to hear by the way.

But did you notice if any fighter's best and most powerful punch was the cross? thanks a lot....

[Phobia]

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hey phobia..my previous question was regarding the cross/straights power, and you responded by saying that EACH fighter will have their " go-to punch", which is great to hear by the way.

But did you notice if any fighter's best and most powerful punch was the cross? thanks a lot....

I believe Lewis had a stellar cross, I flipped through the ratings pretty quick and just wanted to see the basic scaling of the ratings. Did not focus on everyones ratings.

[TheCreep]

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Isn't Mayweather already financially sound? Wonder why he's acting like that. He strikes me as a young upcoming cat from the hood ya know. Someone that would be more like "Fight Night ?, Hell yea, throw me in there !" type of dude.

Why is he acting like a damn diva? Kinda ****ted on my whole perception of him. Thats some foul ****.

Actually, maybe he's not acting foul. Might be whoever represents him. I'm kinda under the impression that if they were talking directly to him, he probably wouldn't mind. We went through a similar situation with an R n B cat that we grew up with. Trying to get him to do a show for half of what he charged plus the money the tickets would bring in would've been great.

He didn't seem to have any real say in the matter. Gave us his "peoples" phone # and they WERE NOT having that **** lol. Where's the location? There? **** no. How much money you have? Half? Forget about it and promptly hung the phone up lol.

[Money99]

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Phobia, did you ever see a guy with a very strong chin get floored or KO'd with one-shot?
Guys like Tyson, Foreman, DLH, all had very strong chins.
In Tyson's prime, it was seen as impossible to knock him down.

Was that represented well in FNC?
Thanks!

[Motown]

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Phobia, did you ever see a guy with a very strong chin get floored or KO'd with one-shot?
Guys like Tyson, Foreman, DLH, all had very strong chins.
In Tyson's prime, it was seen as impossible to knock him down.

Was that represented well in FNC?
Thanks!

Seriously, when was Tyson HIT in his prime? your overrating his chin bro. he didn't have much of a chin at all imo. The 3 best chins ever:


#1 Lamotta
#2 Ali
#3 Hagler
Definitely ain't Tyson...sorry Would like to know the answer to this as well

[Phobia]

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Seriously, when was Tyson HIT in his prime? your overrating his chin bro. he didn't have much of a chin at all imo. The 3 best chins ever:


Lamotta
Ali
Hagler
Definitely ain't Tyson...sorry Would like to know the answer to this as well

Lamotta without a doubt in my eyes.

[grunt]

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Seriously, when was Tyson HIT in his prime? your overrating his chin bro. he didn't have much of a chin at all imo. The 3 best chins ever:


#1 Lamotta
#2 Ali
#3 Hagler
Definitely ain't Tyson...sorry Would like to know the answer to this as well

Watch Razor Rudduck fights 1 and 2.

[Kanobi]

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Watch Razor Rudduck fights 1 and 2.

YEP! I think Rudduck was the one Tyson said "hit like a f**kin mule kick" durin the post-fight interview

[acarrero]

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Iron Mike had a good chin in his prime. Not all-time great, but still very good. If you listen to FN4's commentary, Teddy Atlas explains many big-time chins are helped by the neck, "the shock absorber". Tommy Hearns - skinny neck, not a great chin, Mike Tyson, Hagler - thick necks, good chins.

[Money99]

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Seriously, when was Tyson HIT in his prime? your overrating his chin bro. he didn't have much of a chin at all imo. The 3 best chins ever:


#1 Lamotta
#2 Ali
#3 Hagler
Definitely ain't Tyson...sorry Would like to know the answer to this as well

Watch his bout with Tucker. In the first round he's hit with an uppercut that lifts him off the canvas. He didn't stop moving forward even after taking that shot.

And then watch the beating he took from Douglas and Lewis and tell me he couldn't absorb a punch.
In Lewis' biography he said he's never hit another fighter with as many clean, powershots as he did with Tyson and couldn't believe he was still standing through most of them.
In one instance, he claims he hit Tyson with such a solid right-hand, he didn't feel it when he connected. It was like his hand went straight through him. And yet, again, Tyson was still standing.

And like grunt stated, watch his two fights with Ruddock. Tyson took some major shots and didn't even blink.

Dude had an iron chin.
Still, to me I think the best chin ever was George Chuvalo. He fought all the greats from the 70's and was never put down once.

[BezO]

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Seriously, when was Tyson HIT in his prime? your overrating his chin bro. he didn't have much of a chin at all imo.

Wow! You missed a few fights. But I'm curious how you come to that conclusion if you didn't see him get hit in his prime.

Watch his bout with Tucker. In the first round he's hit with an uppercut that lifts him off the canvas. He didn't stop moving forward even after taking that shot.

Word!

And then watch the beating he took from Douglas and Lewis and tell me he couldn't absorb a punch.
In Lewis' biography he said he's never hit another fighter with as many clean, powershots as he did with Tyson and couldn't believe he was still standing through most of them.
In one instance, he claims he hit Tyson with such a solid right-hand, he didn't feel it when he connected. It was like his hand went straight through him. And yet, again, Tyson was still standing.

I remember a vicious 1, 2 by Lewis. Tyson squatted damn near to the ground, but didn't go down. He was HURT! And that was long after his prime.

[bbarr43]

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I recall Frank Bruno gave him some nice hard shots too.. Tyson took a sore punishing for a while before he ever went down, don't think he had a glass jaw by any means. Never remembered him going down in any early rounds. Think he was underrated in FN4.

[JayBee74]

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Watch his bout with Tucker. In the first round he's hit with an uppercut that lifts him off the canvas. He didn't stop moving forward even after taking that shot.

And then watch the beating he took from Douglas and Lewis and tell me he couldn't absorb a punch.
In Lewis' biography he said he's never hit another fighter with as many clean, powershots as he did with Tyson and couldn't believe he was still standing through most of them.
In one instance, he claims he hit Tyson with such a solid right-hand, he didn't feel it when he connected. It was like his hand went straight through him. And yet, again, Tyson was still standing.

And like grunt stated, watch his two fights with Ruddock. Tyson took some major shots and didn't even blink.

Dude had an iron chin.
Still, to me I think the best chin ever was George Chuvalo. He fought all the greats from the 70's and was never put down once.

Tyson definitely had a good chin. Douglas hit him with about 1000* right crosses and Buster had a good right. Also it seemed at times that Mike wanted Lennox Lewis to hit him.

* exaggeration, but just a little