Just thought on why Mayweather is not in FNC (in support to Brizzo and the roster)

[aholbert32]

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I don't understand why not having Mayweather in the game is sooooooooo world ending. I could see the issue if EA did not attempt to get him. But they made the attempt. No differently than Pac or Tyson, they all receive money. So it is 150% Mayweather's fault, so if anyone is upset about him not being in the game you should focus all your anger towards Mayweather. He could have signed just as Pacman did but no he held out because they would not meet his huge demands.

I personally say screw that idiot. You got to be pretty stupid to turn down FREE money, FREE marketing, and FREE publicity in a big name title. Mayweather is 100% a pure selfish, narcissistic, idiot. I dislike him the more he stays on this planet.

I'm sorry but thats BS. We have no idea what they offered Floyd. We just know that Brizzo said they tried and he wanted to be on the cover. Thats a reasonable demand from a guy who is considered the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world.

Also we have no idea what Pac's contract was either. Pac has been in the last few FNs. He could have been one of those guys who was signed to a three game deal which would make it impossible to renegotiate or make any other demands. If thats true, then Pac signed before the Cotto win made him the P4P #1 fighter.

EA couldnt make a deal with Floyd so its nobody's fault. Floyd has his demands and EA wasnt willing to meet them. Happens everyday in business.

[80tiesBaBy]

Re: Just thought on why Mayweather is not in FNC (in support to Brizzo and the roster

brovo,brovo,brovo, well said

[Phobia]

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I'm sorry but thats BS. We have no idea what they offered Floyd. We just know that Brizzo said they tried and he wanted to be on the cover. Thats a reasonable demand from a guy who is considered the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world.

Also we have no idea what Pac's contract was either. Pac has been in the last few FNs. He could have been one of those guys who was signed to a three game deal which would make it impossible to renegotiate or make any other demands. If thats true, then Pac signed before the Cotto win made him the P4P #1 fighter.

EA couldnt make a deal with Floyd so its nobody's fault. Floyd has his demands and EA wasnt willing to meet them. Happens everyday in business.

Negative Alholbert. When we went to EA, Brizzo told us all the demands Floyd had and they were way over the top. He wanted more money then most the big names combined, Including Pacman. The game to be named after him AND his picture on the cover. It was not just himself on the cover he wanted the game to be named Floyd Mayweather Boxing. This is from Bizzo himself.

It is PBF fault 100%. If they would of met his demands and paid him what he was asking. They would of put most their money they had for contracts to one man then everyone would be complaining when the roster is only 15 fighters deep instead of 50. It was his selfish egotistical personality that kept him out the game.

[BezO]

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LOL

Since when is he obligated? Why is this anything other than the man placing more value on his likeness than EA? Who are any of you to set that value? Or are you all just lashing out because he won't be in your boxing game?

[aholbert32]

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Negative Alholbert. When we went to EA, Brizzo told us all the demands Floyd had and they were way over the top. He wanted more money then most the big names combined, Including Pacman. The game to be named after him AND his picture on the cover. It was not just himself on the cover he wanted the game to be named Floyd Mayweather Boxing. This is from Bizzo himself.

It is PBF fault 100%. If they would of met his demands and paid him what he was asking. They would of put most their money they had for contracts to one man then everyone would be complaining when the roster is only 15 fighters deep instead of 50. It was his selfish egotistical personality that kept him out the game.

Why are those "Over The Top Demands"? Here is a list of fighters who've had their names on video games...Tyson, Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Leonard, Riddick Bowe. Was it over the top for Bowe to want his own game? What about Foreman? Was it over the top for Tyson to want his name on a game? ****, Tyson wasnt in FN or KK until last year because of his demands but nobody called him "selfish."

Key words in your first sentence is "When you went to EA". I'm not calling Brizzo a liar but I'm not about to use his side of the story as the gospel. Of course, he's going to paint PBF as the bad guy because he's taking a ton of grief for including guys like Butterbean and failing to sign the #2 P4P fighter in the world. So much grief that he felt it was necessary to make a post about how it was the boxers fault they couldnt sign them.

With that said, I'm not even a PBF fan but who am I to say what someone's worth is? PBF has the highest grossing PPV of all time. He's had 5 straight million buy PPVs in a row. He's undefeated and even if he never fights Pac will be considered a legend and a first ballot HOF. The guy is proven to sell PPVs and that could easily translate into video game sales. I'd say the same thing about Pac.

[Phobia]

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Why are those "Over The Top Demands"? Here is a list of fighters who've had their names on video games...Tyson, Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Leonard, Riddick Bowe. Was it over the top for Bowe to want his own game? What about Foreman? Was it over the top for Tyson to want his name on a game? ****, Tyson wasnt in FN or KK until last year because of his demands but nobody called him "selfish."

Key words in your first sentence is "When you went to EA". I'm not calling Brizzo a liar but I'm not about to use his side of the story as the gospel. Of course, he's going to paint PBF as the bad guy because he's taking a ton of grief for including guys like Butterbean and failing to sign the #2 P4P fighter in the world. So much grief that he felt it was necessary to make a post about how it was the boxers fault they couldnt sign them.

With that said, I'm not even a PBF fan but who am I to say what someone's worth is? PBF has the highest grossing PPV of all time. He's had 5 straight million buy PPVs in a row. He's undefeated and even if he never fights Pac will be considered a legend and a first ballot HOF. The guy is proven to sell PPVs and that could easily translate into video game sales. I'd say the same thing about Pac.

First, I am calling him selfish because that is my opinion of the man.

Second, if he wants a game in his name then why is he not out there getting one created. EA approached him about him being in the game. They have fighters already in place for signing, contracts are being written, money is being handed out, and a expense plan already in place. They can't change the entire scheme because one man wants more than what can be supplied within reason. He must compensate to a degree to make both parties happy, from my understanding EA tried working with him and he would not budge on his demands.

Now neither can I take Brizzo word as the gospel, but I would not paint it for a lie either. I think the demands PBF made were most likely true and EA could not match those demands. Also he told all of us this way before any of this was released to the public, so this was BEFORE he was taking heat for the PBF debates. I think he released the video out of frustration that gamers attack the developers when it might be out of their hands.

I fully stand by my stance that it was PBF that kept him out the game. But again this is just my opinion, with some hearsay backing from the developers.

[Jukeman]

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the big question is, what was the story about the first contract EA and PBF had, why wasnt that renewed like Pac?

Floyd wasnt "big" then

[sheredia]

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why would you not want to promote yourself through the game and maybe gain some new fans in the process? most fight fans aren't caring about floyd right now until he fights manny....that's the bottom line. nothing against floyd, but until that happens, even with the undefeated record, it'll be difficult to prove to the fans that he is truly the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

[aholbert32]

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why would you not want to promote yourself through the game and maybe gain some new fans in the process? most fight fans aren't caring about floyd right now until he fights manny....that's the bottom line. nothing against floyd, but until that happens, even with the undefeated record, it'll be difficult to prove to the fans that he is truly the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

Floyd isnt in need of more fans. Love him or hate him, people pay for his fights. He gets a million buys no matter who he fights. Being in FN isnt going to help him gain more fans especially when he isnt on the cover and his name isnt on the game.

[Phobia]

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Floyd isnt in need of more fans. Love him or hate him, people pay for his fights. He gets a million buys no matter who he fights. Being in FN isnt going to help him gain more fans especially when he isnt on the cover and his name isnt on the game.

Yea but it is clear the "fans" want him in the game. Look at the drama it has brought him not being in the game. So having him in fight night does encourage some it seems. So I feel he does not have to be on the cover at all to still be relevant in the game. People will still recognize him being in the game on the cover or not.

[aholbert32]

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Yea but it is clear the "fans" want him in the game. Look at the drama it has brought him not being in the game. So having him in fight night does encourage some it seems. So I feel he does not have to be on the cover at all to still be relevant in the game. People will still recognize him being in the game on the cover or not.

Floyd isnt seeing any drama. He probably doesnt know that people are upset about this. Brizzo does and thats why he made that post blaming the boxers. Other than a free check, being in the game doesnt benefit him at all. Its not going to increase his PPV buys because most people who buy FN are guys who are boxing fans or who know who Floyd Mayweather is already. He is the first or second most famous active fighter in the world right now. He has plenty of endorsements (Everlast, Reebok). He doesnt need this game to increase his fame.

Now EA does need him. Having him in the game would probably increase sales for him. So he has all the leverage.

[aholbert32]

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One other thing...Seriously. **** the fans. Most people hate Floyd. They find him to be arrogant, cocky and think he's ducking Pac (I'm one of them). They buy the PPVs for 2 reasons: 1) To watch a great fighter fight and 2) to hope that Floyd loses. Why should he give a damn if "fans" want him in FN? He doesnt owe them anything. They pay for PPVs and he performs and puts on a fight. Thats it. They get a service (watching him fight) for their payment. They will continue to do that until he loses or retires.

I think its ridiculous that people think that he owes them something. He believes he's worth more than every boxer currently in the game. He thinks he's worth having the game being named after him and being on the cover. I dont think he's worth that but who I to demand that he accept less just so I can play him in a game. He owes me nothing. He owes you nothing. Him being in the game isnt going to make you like him. You arent going to buy his Reeboks just because he was in FN. You are going to use him in the game and still cheer against him when he fights next. The guy owes the fans nothing but fighting to the best of his abilities when I pay to watch him fight.

[Phobia]

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Agreed on most parts. But to say the game would not further market him is not true. You have the young generation who are coming to enjoy boxing through video games instead of it being the major fight event like it use to be. Instead the younger generation is leaning towards MMA. So to say that him being in the game would not benefit him any is short sighted. Now I don't believe it affects PBF the man itself but I think it would bring more notoriety to him with the younger generation who pick up the game.

But in the end it is stupid for anyone to refuse free money just to be in the game. Like you said, who are any of us to judge. But my personal opinion is that is stupid.

[Money99]

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Why don't we just name this thread as I hate PBF. Floyd has the right to say no. No more and no less.

Absolutely. But I think some are getting tired of hearing it's EA's fault as to why Floyd's not in the game.
Like Phobia, some of us here are just trying to set the record straight and make sure they know EA did what they could to get him in the game.

[Jukeman]

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Absolutely. But I think some are getting tired of hearing it's EA's fault as to why Floyd's not in the game.
Like Phobia, some of us here are just trying to set the record straight and make sure they know EA did what they could to get him in the game.

Maybe it isnt Brizzo's fault but maybe it is EA's..

What happened after knock Out Kings 2003?

Did PBF refuse to renew his contract or did EA?

I think fans are pissed because Floyd was there and he isnt anymore...Somebody dropped the ball somewhere...

PBF was in 5 of EA's boxing games, other than ALI (and maybe Pac and a few other relevant boxers) I dont think there was a boxer that been in that many games.

Something happen when EA came out with FN 2004...