Peter Moore Blog: Is Boxing Dead?

[ChampN252]

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I can only hope boxing isn't dead. It's my favorite sport...well, tied with baseball. Little things need to be done to bring the popularity back up. More national TV matches, much attention getters, lot what Paccy and Floyd are doing. We need a new Roy Jones Jr. A boxer than is great and backs it up week after week. That guy was mad popular. I saw him in an old episode of Married with Children. I'd imagine he had a lot of TV time.

[Mr5000]

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I can only hope boxing isn't dead. It's my favorite sport...well, tied with baseball. Little things need to be done to bring the popularity back up. More national TV matches, much attention getters, lot what Paccy and Floyd are doing. We need a new Roy Jones Jr. A boxer than is great and backs it up week after week. That guy was mad popular. I saw him in an old episode of Married with Children. I'd imagine he had a lot of TV time.

That's not the problem with boxing. There are alot of great fighters out there. Problem is they're not fighting each other and they're not because "why fight this other great fighter for 10 million when I can fight this tin can for the same amount of money."

[JayhawkerStL]

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This blog is an example of how video games work. Here we have an executive of EA Sports telling us why they went with this version of Fight Night, and if you read everything in its context, it's not a bad move at all.

A for-profit company is going to always be challenged with increasing revenue. Moore's question, "Is boxing dead," tells us that they can't trust the sport itself to sell the game. That's completely understandable. We aren't here on the release of a new system, where FN3 was, showing us graphics we've never seen before and that alone being the foundation of a big seller. Now EA is challenged with a less popular sport (among gamers) and they have to do something to catch the eye of the consumer.

I think the Champion Mode is a step in the right direction. It's also nice to see Moore comment on the broken stamina system that hurt FN4's online mode. At first I read the blog as an obvious PR stunt to promote FNC in a positive light, but in its context, what he writes shows us what probably goes on from the top down. The pressures are there to seel the game, while the developers try to make the game a solid representation of the sport.

Great post. Insights like these are why following the gaming industry can be fun and interesting. I really prefer to look at the hows and whys when it comes to the creation of video games.

[Money99]

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To chime in on the question if boxing is dead; No it's not. Not at all.
However, it's not close to having the popularity it once had 60 years ago.

Multiple belts certainly have helped dilute the field, but I think the greater evil has been the addition of several weight classes.

Get rid of all the catchweights, leave Cruiserweight and reduce the amount of divisions to 9.
Imagine how great the Light-Heavyweight class would be if you added all the Super-Six contestants?
Or how about forcing all the great fighters at 140 into Welterweight?

There would be no avoiding anyone. Boxing would be back in a huge way.

[Jukeman]

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Exactly! Peter Moore says "Gamers are looking for innovation, and, in boxing, we have a unique opportunity to tell the stories behind the game and to bring the participants to life as characters, not just players. The sport of boxing gives us a chance to create a true cinematic sports experience."

Why not create an organic legacy mode that has these elements sprinkled in. We would all be blown away. everyone.

Starcraft is such a deep and intricate game that still sells millions. Why does EA think simple is best? That things can't be too difficult, "can't add too much depth, it'll scare away the casuals."

Yeah i was shocked that Mass Effect 2 lacked the customization of Mass Effect 1. I dont know if EA was behind that but its fishy...

Next thing you know you're not going to be able to control the life of your Sims in The Sims 4...

[Jukeman]

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no idea why there is so much hate for the story mode. personally i loved the Road to Wrestlemania mode...which is basically the same thing. Plus in SvR theres still the normal CAW career and they are fine as 2 different things.

looking forward to this story mode thing, for sure.

apparently you havent played SVR 2011 and experience all of the flaws and bugs the Universe Mode has (the new career mode)

[Jukeman]

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This blog is an example of how video games work. Here we have an executive of EA Sports telling us why they went with this version of Fight Night, and if you read everything in its context, it's not a bad move at all.

A for-profit company is going to always be challenged with increasing revenue. Moore's question, "Is boxing dead," tells us that they can't trust the sport itself to sell the game. That's completely understandable. We aren't here on the release of a new system, where FN3 was, showing us graphics we've never seen before and that alone being the foundation of a big seller. Now EA is challenged with a less popular sport (among gamers) and they have to do something to catch the eye of the consumer.

I think the Champion Mode is a step in the right direction. It's also nice to see Moore comment on the broken stamina system that hurt FN4's online mode. At first I read the blog as an obvious PR stunt to promote FNC in a positive light, but in its context, what he writes shows us what probably goes on from the top down. The pressures are there to seel the game, while the developers try to make the game a solid representation of the sport.

Remove "game" "EA" and enter PBF....Same thing...

Sorry for the triple posts.

[aholbert32]

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To chime in on the question if boxing is dead; No it's not. Not at all.
However, it's not close to having the popularity it once had 60 years ago.

Multiple belts certainly have helped dilute the field, but I think the greater evil has been the addition of several weight classes.

Get rid of all the catchweights, leave Cruiserweight and reduce the amount of divisions to 9.
Imagine how great the Light-Heavyweight class would be if you added all the Super-Six contestants?
Or how about forcing all the great fighters at 140 into Welterweight?

There would be no avoiding anyone. Boxing would be back in a huge way.

Never will happen. Too many corrupt sanctioning bodies, promoters and state commissions.

[Money99]

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Never will happen. Too many corrupt sanctioning bodies, promoters and state commissions.

Absolutely.

The ONLY chance boxing has to cleaning up so we're seeing good bouts and one champ is if some crazy billionaire forms his own league ala UFC and signs all the good fighters out of the amateur ranks before pariah like Don King or Bob Arum get their talons into them.

[BQ32]

Boxing absolutely is not dead, and honestly as to why the declining interest pardon my opinion but I really believe a lot of you have it wrong. Some of the best fighters actually do fight the best opponants out there and the end of 2010 was chalk full of fantastic fights. Tell me who Serio Martinez did not want to fight. He beat the linear MW Champ and had two spectacular battles with the number 3 ranked p4p fighter. In January we are already getting the two premier 140lb fighters matching up and soon after the two premier bantamwieghts matching up in a p4p match that should be classic. Boxing is amazing right now with the fights they are putting on. The world does not end with Pac and Mayweather. Someone did mention about the popularity being linked to the heavyweight devision and there is a lot of truth in that. Americans like the fantasy of watching two gladiators that could brutalize most anyone they know, but to be honest I walk around at a pretty fit 240 with good athletisism and would have very little fear of being in a confrontation with pacman at 140-150, no matter how skillful. A prime tyson though and I would be inclined to run as fast as possible. I don't really feel MMA and particulary UFC impacting the sport that much, I have followed MMA from the beginning though still preffer Boxing I think thought they are a legitimate sport its crossover fanbase is more from the WWE than Boxing. Three big problems linger: 1. corruption in the sanctioning bodies and promoters really derail from the sports popularity. 2. too many weight classes and belts add confusion to the non hardcore fan as to who really is the man, the best, the champ. along with the abiltiy to manipulate those weight classes and belts. 3. lack of national media coverage by free channels and sporting news outlets such as espn. ESPN has thier own boxing show but don't even cover thier own fights on sportscenter. These things could be changed but until they do it is becoming more of a cult sport which is kind of cool anyway.

[NYG_Meth]

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Boxing absolutely is not dead, and honestly as to why the declining interest pardon my opinion but I really believe a lot of you have it wrong. Some of the best fighters actually do fight the best opponants out there and the end of 2010 was chalk full of fantastic fights. Tell me who Serio Martinez did not want to fight. He beat the linear MW Champ and had two spectacular battles with the number 3 ranked p4p fighter. In January we are already getting the two premier 140lb fighters matching up and soon after the two premier bantamwieghts matching up in a p4p match that should be classic. Boxing is amazing right now with the fights they are putting on. The world does not end with Pac and Mayweather. Someone did mention about the popularity being linked to the heavyweight devision and there is a lot of truth in that. Americans like the fantasy of watching two gladiators that could brutalize most anyone they know, but to be honest I walk around at a pretty fit 240 with good athletisism and would have very little fear of being in a confrontation with pacman at 140-150, no matter how skillful. A prime tyson though and I would be inclined to run as fast as possible. I don't really feel MMA and particulary UFC impacting the sport that much, I have followed MMA from the beginning though still preffer Boxing I think thought they are a legitimate sport its crossover fanbase is more from the WWE than Boxing. Three big problems linger: 1. corruption in the sanctioning bodies and promoters really derail from the sports popularity. 2. too many weight classes and belts add confusion to the non hardcore fan as to who really is the man, the best, the champ. along with the abiltiy to manipulate those weight classes and belts. 3. lack of national media coverage by free channels and sporting news outlets such as espn. ESPN has thier own boxing show but don't even cover thier own fights on sportscenter. These things could be changed but until they do it is becoming more of a cult sport which is kind of cool anyway.

240 is big, but tell me this again after going punch for punch with a world-class boxer, regardless of weight.

[aholbert32]

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Boxing absolutely is not dead, and honestly as to why the declining interest pardon my opinion but I really believe a lot of you have it wrong. Some of the best fighters actually do fight the best opponants out there and the end of 2010 was chalk full of fantastic fights. Tell me who Serio Martinez did not want to fight. He beat the linear MW Champ and had two spectacular battles with the number 3 ranked p4p fighter. In January we are already getting the two premier 140lb fighters matching up and soon after the two premier bantamwieghts matching up in a p4p match that should be classic. Boxing is amazing right now with the fights they are putting on. The world does not end with Pac and Mayweather. Someone did mention about the popularity being linked to the heavyweight devision and there is a lot of truth in that. Americans like the fantasy of watching two gladiators that could brutalize most anyone they know, but to be honest I walk around at a pretty fit 240 with good athletisism and would have very little fear of being in a confrontation with pacman at 140-150, no matter how skillful. A prime tyson though and I would be inclined to run as fast as possible. I don't really feel MMA and particulary UFC impacting the sport that much, I have followed MMA from the beginning though still preffer Boxing I think thought they are a legitimate sport its crossover fanbase is more from the WWE than Boxing. Three big problems linger: 1. corruption in the sanctioning bodies and promoters really derail from the sports popularity. 2. too many weight classes and belts add confusion to the non hardcore fan as to who really is the man, the best, the champ. along with the abiltiy to manipulate those weight classes and belts. 3. lack of national media coverage by free channels and sporting news outlets such as espn. ESPN has thier own boxing show but don't even cover thier own fights on sportscenter. These things could be changed but until they do it is becoming more of a cult sport which is kind of cool anyway.

Using Martinez as proof that the best fighters fight each other in Boxing doesnt work. He is an exception...an outlier. The fight everyone wants to see at HW, the Klits vs. Haye isnt happening. Same with Pac and Floyd. Same with Bute and Ward. Same with Berto and any of the top WW.

[fistofrage]

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I walk around at a pretty fit 240 with good athletisism and would have very little fear of being in a confrontation with pacman at 140-150, no matter how skillful. .

Seriously??? When's the Pay Per View, I'll pay $50 for this easy and put my mortgage on PAC to end it in the first round......

[SHAKYR]

Peter Moore is full of it. He was writing boxing off in an interview before.

http://kotaku.com/5170324/peter-moore-boxing-is-the-past

"Peter Moore: Boxing is "the Past"

"Boxing, for me, sadly feels like it's the past of fighting and Mixed Martial Arts feels like it's the future of fighting. So when we look at where people's attention is going, that's something we keep a very close eye on."

[Jukeman]

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Peter Moore is full of it. He was writing boxing off in an interview before.

http://kotaku.com/5170324/peter-moor...ng-is-the-past

"Peter Moore: Boxing is "the Past"

He's also the same guy who said Jordan wont matter as a cover boy, ironically in that same year their version of a nBA game was canceled