This is what FNC Online is going to turn into if.....

**Hova57** · 02-05-2011, 10:17 PM

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I see what you saying, but haven't we already established that there isn't enough damage done when caught with good counters or hard punches. So with a tuner fix to punching damage . What you see now wouldn't stand even in a six round game. Also punching accuracy would get tweeked. Personally its a good fight, guy knows how to time the punches. But the punches he was getting caught with his stamina should and would go down alot. For both videos I understand, but at the same time its just a demo and seems like they are in the works of fixing some of the issues

**grunt** · 02-06-2011, 12:37 AM

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My concern this is the same issue as FN4 with the lack of a jab. The game just devolve into a hook fest.

**Sausage** · 02-06-2011, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by grunt

My concern this is the same issue as FN4 with the lack of a jab. The game just devolve into a hook fest.

It kind of already has in my opinion, due to mainly the fact that both boxers can walk through each others punches causing more in-fighting than norm.

**steelernut** · 02-06-2011, 02:42 AM

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I'm starting to get tired of you players from FN4 complaining about the blocking system, your just mad because you won't be able to "HYPERPUNCH" or do your set combo list, its actually hilarious how you guys are trying your hardest to knock every new aspect of the game so it fits your mold, so you can have success in this yrs game. Its obvious that "YOU TUBE" was a fix to try and petition to get rid of the auto block and if it wasn't then wow those players won't do to well at this yrs game. I mean "come ON' SON how lazy are the punches that are being thrown From MR."YOU_GOT_OUT_CLASSED" I can see his jab thrown from a mile away and all his lack luster combos as well. It's a ploy to try and get rid of the blocking system that EA made this yr. I haven't had any problem on the DEMO dishing out punches to many of players online (and I play the demo faithfully) especially the Jab, that goes for players laying punches on me too. Anybody who knows how to box knows that jus because you throw a JAB doesn't mean it will land, A Jab is set up punch or even a deflector for your other punches to land, you have to set it up, u can't throw it lazy like Ole boy did in this wack attempt to sway players in believing the auto block is a bad idea. This version is so far ahead of FN4 allot of player don't wanna understand it. Only way I can describe it is guys who liked FN4 over this yrs version are like old men who are stuck in the old ways.

**DaveDQ** · 02-06-2011, 11:09 AM

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Online will always have issues with exploits and the like. I'd imagine it's extremely difficult to create a game that wouldn't be exploited by users who have one reason they are playing: Win at all costs and send you a hate message (win or lose).

I'm beginning to see more of the block "exploit" in the demo. It's definitely out there, but what I'm doing is sending guys messages after they fight. I ask them what their stamina and damage was at the start of round 3. Now, they don't usually reply, but I'm trying to get an idea of what's happening. Last night I asked a guy what his stamina was at and he replied, "Your mom's ****."

What bothers me some, and I try not to let it really bug me, is the ability to throw punch after punch and it not drain stamina as it should. It's as if the new blocking scheme was put into place so that you can counter a heavy puncher, but why not penalize the heavy puncher for routinely throwing 100+ punches a round?

Getting back to the videos that are posted here. I don't support what they are trying to prove because the user is not really boxing. It's like he's more interested in proving the exploit.

**JayBee74** · 02-06-2011, 11:31 AM

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I have played over 100 online bouts and have never been beaten by being frozen and countered by a "perfect block".

It's much easier to deliver a counter by dodging, ducking, or weaving.

**DaveDQ** · 02-06-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by JayBee74

I have played over 100 online bouts and have never been beaten by being frozen and countered by a "perfect block".

It's much easier to deliver a counter by dodging, ducking, or weaving.

I just got done getting a few fights in and was thinking the same.

**grunt** · 02-06-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Sausage

It kind of already has in my opinion, due to mainly the fact that both boxers can walk through each others punches causing more in-fighting than norm.

I can't buy a game on day one when I know this is still a problem. Hook, hook, uppercut to the body and my jab can't keep him off me. This is not boxing to me.

**phant030** · 02-07-2011, 02:36 AM

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Another thing is the ability to go from a punch into a defensive position too quickly...you can throw a heavy hook, miss it and go into a lean back gloves up blocking position in .1 second...the counter opp is the time it take to regain that position, but there is none....so the game 'creates' a counter window....where as it should be a natural happening.

**Vast** · 02-07-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by phant030

Another thing is the ability to go from a punch into a defensive position too quickly...you can throw a heavy hook, miss it and go into a lean back gloves up blocking position in .1 second...the counter opp is the time it take to regain that position, but there is none....so the game 'creates' a counter window....where as it should be a natural happening.

Yeah they might need to slow down the recovery period.

I fought a guy online once who was able to counter pretty much anything a threw at him almost instantly.
It was something i never seen before.I'd throw a jab to the body and he'd block it and bam counter punch; even though i knew he was trying to counter me, I was unable to stop it.

I have not been able to duplicate it, but I'm thinking he mastered the perfect block. It needs to be removed.
Funny thing is i still won the decision because he didn't start to really counter until the 2nd round, but in a 10 round fight he would've been a real problem.

**Phobia** · 02-07-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Vast

Yeah they might need to slow down the recovery period.

I fought a guy online once who was able to counter pretty much anything a threw at him almost instantly.
It was something i never seen before.I'd throw a jab to the body and he'd block it and bam counter punch; even though i knew he was trying to counter me, I was unable to stop it.

I have not been able to duplicate it, but I'm thinking he mastered the perfect block. It needs to be removed.
Funny thing is i still won the decision because he didn't start to really counter until the 2nd round, but in a 10 round fight he would've been a real problem.

I have fought online quite a bit so far and have yet to see a perfect block user. Not saying they are not out there. I just have yet to face one

**Vast** · 02-07-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Phobia

I have fought online quite a bit so far and have yet to see a perfect block user. Not saying they are not out there. I just have yet to face one

I wish i knew how he was able to do it. I'm only guessing that it's because of the perfect block.

That 1 guy is the only one I've seen able to do it.

**DaveDQ** · 02-07-2011, 06:07 PM

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I fought a guy who was doing it to me. It's pretty frustrating. If I didn't punch he would just sit there. If I come across it again I'm walking away. There's no point in stooping to that level.

If these guys get to be highly ranked because of it, so be it. I told myself before I played the demo that there will be exploits and the classless guys will be the first to find and use them.

**Vast** · 02-07-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by DaveDQ

I fought a guy who was doing it to me. It's pretty frustrating. If I didn't punch he would just sit there. If I come across it again I'm walking away. There's no point in stooping to that level.

If these guys get to be highly ranked because of it, so be it. I told myself before I played the demo that there will be exploits and the classless guys will be the first to find and use them.

I say eliminate the perfect block counter window.

I thought they were eliminating it anyway! wtf?

The perfect block, should only allow you to block perfectly. Thats it!

Do you think the perfect block was how he was able to do it?

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