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  • Vast
    MVP
    • Sep 2003
    • 4015

    #151
    Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

    Originally posted by fistofrage
    This is why you shouldn't buy a game on day 1. We've already waited 2 years, what's a few more weeks or months. By then the game will be cheaper and we'll know if they fixed anything or not.

    If you are mainly an offline gamer like me, all I would be doing is spending $65 to be in slider hell. Basically paying EA to beta test their product.

    Madden wasn't patched up until December. I bought it just after Christmas for half the price and saved myself months of aggrevation.
    Good advice. I want to buy this game soo bad because i love boxing, but I can't do this man. I can't support a company that does this to their customers.

    The saving grace for this game was the gameplay. Definitely not the default gameplay because these guys have no clue what real boxing is supposed to play like.
    But with the right slider adjustments one would hope we can get the game to play the way its supposed to. Like a boxing simulation *gasp*.

    Since the demo we've been screaming about how high the damn accuracy was. I said to myself well in the retail version for offline/legacy play i can lower the accuracy via sliders.

    Well think again Vast.
    "I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston Churchill

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    • goh
      Banned
      • Aug 2003
      • 20755

      #152
      Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

      So do the sliders that DO work effect the story mode? I'll assume the tendencies can't be edited there.

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      • sdrotar
        OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
        • Jul 2002
        • 1055

        #153
        Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

        Happy to see the sim guys pulling together to make this work.
        Unfortunate that we have to do it, of course... but that's what makes a community a community.
        Shawn Drotar
        Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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        • SHAKYR
          MVP
          • Nov 2003
          • 1795

          #154
          Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

          Originally posted by sdrotar
          Happy to see the sim guys pulling together to make this work.
          Unfortunate that we have to do it, of course... but that's what makes a community a community.
          We have to, Phobia and me are leading the campaign!
          Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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          • tcrews
            Rookie
            • Oct 2009
            • 360

            #155
            Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

            I say this while realizing that a lot of people are just upset with the amount of punches being thrown, and too much stamina regenerating between rounds etc.

            I haven't done much with the sliders besides put accuracy at 0, counter window at 0, and stamina at 0. I just had a fight, W. Klitschko (me) Vs. Tommy Morrison on champion difficulty. I think one of the reasons I never had a chance to look at stamina is that I played two fights last night when I first got it, and neither went past round 3. Today I've had about 10 fights, and only this last one went past round 5.

            I took pictures which I will post later, but my phone won't let me access my gallery for some reason right now. But at the end of round 5, Morrison had absurdly low stamina. When I took pictures of the in game action, he was constantly gassed after throwing one punch. He had roughly 35% stamina if I had to guess by eyeing it out. After his recovery at the end of round 5, it said he had 46%, at the end of round 5. So, my question is, is this the norm for everyone? I'm seeing a lot of people get really upset about stamina, and I realize this is a very small test sample, being my first and only fight to go past 5 rounds, but Morrison having 46% at the end of round 5 isn't that bad, is it? Also, he landed 148/343 punches. So 50% drain on 343 punches in 5 rounds. Is this the same type of result that people are having an issue with? I'm not being facetious either, nor am I praising or bashing on the game. I'm just curious as to whether or not this is the norm because based on what I've seen posted, it doesn't seem it.

            I'm not sure if this was caused by it being a heavyweight fight (they tend to have less stamina in these games), by Morrison's own stats, the sliders, or a combination, but I felt as though it was actually a very fair stamina drop. Once my phone starts working I'll wait a bit before I post, just because it would be pointless if this ends up being the exact same type of result everyone else is already getting. Just wanted to throw this out there and see if these are normal results or not. I'm trying really hard to enjoy this game but they made it really challenging, there's a lot you have to overlook in order to have fun with it, and I can honestly say I'm not doing all that great turning a blind eye at this point.

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            • Phobia
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jan 2008
              • 11623

              #156
              Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

              Originally posted by sdrotar
              Happy to see the sim guys pulling together to make this work.
              Unfortunate that we have to do it, of course... but that's what makes a community a community.
              Originally posted by SHAKYR
              We have to, Phobia and me are leading the campaign!
              I like that sentence sdrotar. I am not against EA in anyway, matter of fact they treated me fantastically and would work there in a heart beat. I am just a gamer who looks at the entire industry and the direction games in general are going and I feel "realism" is in. People like sports games to mimic real life as much as possible. This is the reason your franchises such as NBA2k11, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5, NFL2k5, All Pro Football, even FIFA 11 are revered by fans in such huge praise. While none of these titles are perfect, they blur the lines of what we see on TV and video games.

              Brizzo and Mike have all my support and the guys love boxing. They are doing their best to make a game to represent boxing. I just think that my vision might differ from theirs and this is why sliders are such a huge feature and should give you powerful control over our sports games. This way we can craft our experience how WE see fit.

              Like I said, I am 100% behind the EA Vancouver guys. I just think there was some design plans that were either not planned out well enough or due to engine restrictions caused unforeseen issues. But with that said, you are literally the #1 Leader in sports games. You represent the pinnacle of the sports genre', so there should not be "prospect" mistakes(White out on CAB faces, Sliders not working, Presentation lacking with ESPN license). No differently than being Michael Jordan and rising above the rest, EA has set themselves to that level and you must be able to deliver.

              With all that I have said, I see HUGE AMAZING promise in the Fight Night franchise. It is just disappointing to see it sooooo damn close to being mentioned in that core crop of cult classics, only to end up "Great" because of a few small issues.

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              • SHAKYR
                MVP
                • Nov 2003
                • 1795

                #157
                Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                Originally posted by Phobia
                I like that sentence sdrotar. I am not against EA in anyway, matter of fact they treated me fantastically and would work there in a heart beat. I am just a gamer who looks at the entire industry and the direction games in general are going and I feel "realism" is in. People like sports games to mimic real life as much as possible. This is the reason your franchises such as NBA2k11, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5, NFL2k5, All Pro Football, even FIFA 11 are revered by fans in such huge praise. While none of these titles are perfect, they blur the lines of what we see on TV and video games.

                Brizzo and Mike have all my support and the guys love boxing. They are doing their best to make a game to represent boxing. I just think that my vision might differ from theirs and this is why sliders are such a huge feature and should give you powerful control over our sports games. This way we can craft our experience how WE see fit.

                Like I said, I am 100% behind the EA Vancouver guys. I just think there was some design plans that were either not planned out well enough or due to engine restrictions caused unforeseen issues. But with that said, you are literally the #1 Leader in sports games. You represent the pinnacle of the sports genre', so there should not be "prospect" mistakes(White out on CAB faces, Sliders not working, Presentation lacking with ESPN license). No differently than being Michael Jordan and rising above the rest, EA has set themselves to that level and you must be able to deliver.

                With all that I have said, I see HUGE AMAZING promise in the Fight Night franchise. It is just disappointing to see it sooooo damn close to being mentioned in that core crop of cult classics, only to end up "Great" because of a few small issues.
                Don't be apologetic for feeling passionate, Mike and Brizzo can take their coffee strong!
                Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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                • sdrotar
                  OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1055

                  #158
                  Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                  Nothing wrong with being passionate...
                  Poetic and I have been up in Burnaby with the development team ourselves - they're certainly good people, and I never question their work ethic. Making games is hard work.

                  That said, this is consumerism - if the product sells well enough the way it is, then don't expect changes. If it doesn't? Well, then, they'll look to places like this to see how they might be able to sell more copies to others.

                  When I ran the content here at OS, that was always goal No. 1 - constructive criticism for developers, but always for the sole purpose of making certain that consumers - gamers - got the best bang for their buck.

                  Hopefully, the products fit the bill out of the box, and the release-then-patch mentality that seems to permeate today's games is nothing less than vile - those that complain that they're basically paying $60 to be beta testers aren't that far off from the truth.

                  However, rather than having no recourse at all and being stuck with a game we're unhappy with, we have, well, each other - like-minded, solution-oriented individuals who choose to roll up their sleeves and pick up the slack for no other reason than the fact that we all share the same hobby. That's what makes gaming different than any other entertainment medium.

                  You can't fix an underwhelming movie, book or music release, but clever people like the ones here can do something to help their fellow gamer feel like their time and money isn't wasted.

                  For every thousand foolish, profanity-spewing punks online, for every hundred racist, sexist, homophobic wastes-of-space on Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network, there's someone here who's trying to make gaming more fun for their fellow man or woman... just because they want to.

                  Believe me, it's not for nothing. I've seen the difference it makes first-hand.
                  Thanks for making that difference.
                  Shawn Drotar
                  Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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                  • Phobia
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 11623

                    #159
                    Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                    Appreciate that Shawn and I fully agree with you. It is a joy to be a part of a passionate group and like you said, guys who spend their own quality time doing what they can to help make a product which is not even our own better for others like ourselves.

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                    • td7
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 487

                      #160
                      Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                      Phobia, have you come up with anything as far as messing with the tendencies?
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                      • Phobia
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 11623

                        #161
                        Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                        Originally posted by td7
                        Phobia, have you come up with anything as far as messing with the tendencies?
                        To be honest man, I have been getting off of work and heading home to play some of our Gym. I have not messed with the Tendencies in couple days. I planned on diving into them this weekend man.

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                        • td7
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 487

                          #162
                          Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                          No problem, keep us updated with what you come up with.
                          You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his *ss quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O. as a team! That's what people know us as! - Nick Saban

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                          • DaveDQ
                            13
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 7664

                            #163
                            Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                            Originally posted by sdrotar
                            Nothing wrong with being passionate...
                            Poetic and I have been up in Burnaby with the development team ourselves - they're certainly good people, and I never question their work ethic. Making games is hard work.

                            That said, this is consumerism - if the product sells well enough the way it is, then don't expect changes. If it doesn't? Well, then, they'll look to places like this to see how they might be able to sell more copies to others.

                            When I ran the content here at OS, that was always goal No. 1 - constructive criticism for developers, but always for the sole purpose of making certain that consumers - gamers - got the best bang for their buck.

                            Hopefully, the products fit the bill out of the box, and the release-then-patch mentality that seems to permeate today's games is nothing less than vile - those that complain that they're basically paying $60 to be beta testers aren't that far off from the truth.

                            However, rather than having no recourse at all and being stuck with a game we're unhappy with, we have, well, each other - like-minded, solution-oriented individuals who choose to roll up their sleeves and pick up the slack for no other reason than the fact that we all share the same hobby. That's what makes gaming different than any other entertainment medium.

                            You can't fix an underwhelming movie, book or music release, but clever people like the ones here can do something to help their fellow gamer feel like their time and money isn't wasted.

                            For every thousand foolish, profanity-spewing punks online, for every hundred racist, sexist, homophobic wastes-of-space on Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network, there's someone here who's trying to make gaming more fun for their fellow man or woman... just because they want to.

                            Believe me, it's not for nothing. I've seen the difference it makes first-hand.
                            Thanks for making that difference.
                            You should write a blog or something.
                            Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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                            • Fiddy
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 12639

                              #164
                              Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                              why do people keep posting in the slider thread, if they dont work? lol.. #confused
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                              • SHAKYR
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 1795

                                #165
                                Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                                Originally posted by Fiddy
                                why do people keep posting in the slider thread, if they dont work? lol.. #confused
                                It got me confused too,but you have people who will keep accepting placebos thinking they work because they want them to.
                                Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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