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  • DaveDQ
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    • Sep 2003
    • 7664

    #31
    Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

    Originally posted by kbmnm247
    Will my preorder xp pack be gone if I want to remove my lightweight boxer and start a different career? Has anyone done this yet?
    I am not certain but I think once you assign those points to a boxer you have to keep them with him. Even if you take him out of OWC, you would have to put him back in freash to use them. I have the pre-order points too but don't want to use them because I want to make sure it's for the right purpose.
    Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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    • Vast
      MVP
      • Sep 2003
      • 4015

      #32
      Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

      Is there a limit to how much xp you can buy??
      "I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston Churchill

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      • TarHeelPhenom
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 7109

        #33
        Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

        To be honest, I'm glad I'm in the twilight of my gaming career(35 y/o) because I don't like where gaming is headed. The sim generation will gradually get phased out. These exclusive licensing deals by one company provides no competition or motivation to bring your A game when making a game. The truth is...the XBox 360 will probably be the last gaming console I ever buy. It's getting lower on my priority list by the day.
        "Dunks are tough, but when a 35 footer come rainin out the sky...it'll wire you up"

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        • steelernut
          Rookie
          • May 2010
          • 105

          #34
          Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

          I'm feeling the same way you are bra, I was completely out boxing this dude and all he had to do was hit me with a right hand and I got knocked out! WTF! Its all a money scheme, EA sports wants to capitalize plain and simple. Its either you got through the legacy or you buy the boost...I'll probably go though the legacy mode it'll take some time but at least it's free
          xXxDrUnKeN_MaStAxXx

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          • Vast
            MVP
            • Sep 2003
            • 4015

            #35
            Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

            Originally posted by steelernut
            I'm feeling the same way you are bra, I was completely out boxing this dude and all he had to do was hit me with a right hand and I got knocked out! WTF! Its all a money scheme, EA sports wants to capitalize plain and simple. Its either you got through the legacy or you buy the boost...I'll probably go though the legacy mode it'll take some time but at least it's free
            But doesn't the guy who buys the xp have an advantage cuz he can buy a few xp packs and have more points than you can ever get through the legacy mode??
            "I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston Churchill

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            • randombrother
              Banned
              • Oct 2009
              • 1275

              #36
              Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

              OWC is just complete trash now. Some dude had the super punch but I was still timing him good and anticipating his moves. I get knocked down 4 times however and keep getting up. I knocked him down twice and had him stunned and was getting ready for the 3rd, what does he do, low blow punch in the nuts, now he's all nice and rested and I go on to lose. He barely got up on the 2nd knockdown and no way he was getting up from the third.

              I reported this clown TOM THE BOMB11 immediately. This is clown crap. Why are these punches STILL in the game? And guys you know this goes deeper than a video game, this is part of society now, use cheap tactics, cheat or whatever and show NO kind of moral compass whatsoever and these game companies are encouraging the raising of a nation of moral losers.

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              • airboss75
                Banned
                • Mar 2011
                • 7

                #37
                Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

                Originally posted by Phobia
                I have about had it with online. I fought 3 or 4 fights last night and had enough of this crap mode OWC. EA designed this mode where you either spend MORE money to buy a XP pack so you can compete at the very least or you are stuck getting KOed over and over and over.

                A 1 to 2 point overall difference in fighters is HUGE. I fought several 80, 81, 83, rated opponents ALL with one single punch maxed out to 20. Then they throw that one single punch over and over.

                You might say, well you can just run and out point them.......sure to a degree......but he will catch you a couple times and that is all it takes. I held one guy to a 20% connect rate through 6 rounds and he only landed 30 something punches, then boom he connects and of course 1 Punch flash KO. My third of the night, all by the same routine. Hell I held one guy to FIVE, let me restate that FIVE punches landed and he 1 Punch KOed me.

                This is a HUGE issue, because it took me around 10 mins to find a match even with a guy with a rating that low. I came across several upper 80s guys. If your lowly 78 or 79 rated guy can't compete against this cheese from a 81 overall fighter, how in world would you make it out of 1st rd versus 88 overall guy?!?!?!

                I am completely baffled by this design! I want to be clear that at community day we were NEVER told of these XP packs aka Micro-transactions. This has ruined online play for me, I am not going to spend more money on a damn XP pack just so I don't get KOed in first round. This is going to limit me to only to offline, I am completely disgusted by this. I don't even feel like going home and attempt to play this.

                You got two options, 1) Either you spend days/weeks offline or sparring leveling up your fighter to finally be able to compete in OWC. 2) You spend even more money on XP pack to be able to compete.

                What more needs to be said , perfect example of how these Micro-transactions are hurting the gaming industry and consumers such as myself. Because now it affects my hobby!
                Dude, it just isn't that serious bro. You sound steamed right now for losing in this manner (which is understandable) . That first option actually sounds like a great time, you dont think?

                Thats what the game is for anyway. Sim heads are more offline (in my opinion) type of gamers anyway. Enjoy the legacy mode for a bit and level up, or just play ranked matches.

                I haven't touched OWC as of yet. Who knows. I think I played a total of 10 OWC matches in Rnd4. Never was really interested in it. I was strictly legacy and ranked matches which was great for what it delivered. Legacy isn't anywhere near as robust as i would like it to be, but it'll do for now no doubt.

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                • DaveDQ
                  13
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 7664

                  #38
                  Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

                  Originally posted by Vast
                  But doesn't the guy who buys the xp have an advantage cuz he can buy a few xp packs and have more points than you can ever get through the legacy mode??
                  In OWC you can only go so high. There's a cap on how many points you can use. This is why I won't say the mode is an absolute joke. These one punch morons can be beat.

                  Originally posted by randombrother
                  OWC is just complete trash now. Some dude had the super punch but I was still timing him good and anticipating his moves. I get knocked down 4 times however and keep getting up. I knocked him down twice and had him stunned and was getting ready for the 3rd, what does he do, low blow punch in the nuts, now he's all nice and rested and I go on to lose. He barely got up on the 2nd knockdown and no way he was getting up from the third.

                  I reported this clown TOM THE BOMB11 immediately. This is clown crap. Why are these punches STILL in the game? And guys you know this goes deeper than a video game, this is part of society now, use cheap tactics, cheat or whatever and show NO kind of moral compass whatsoever and these game companies are encouraging the raising of a nation of moral losers.
                  The illegal blows in this game are a prime example of how the devs need to take things more seriously.
                  Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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                  • acts238shaun
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 2714

                    #39
                    Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

                    Originally posted by Phobia
                    LOL I disagree my 79 overall fight does not stand a remote chance. I lost every single one and by the same fashion. 1 Punch KO by the same hand being thrown 400 times while I destroy them picking them a part. I can't prevent getting hit entirely and at some point one of those hits KO's me.
                    What? One armed spamming? And I thought the devs fixed this? Wait...they fixed connect rates and stamina...whoops. Wrong game.

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                    • Phobia
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11623

                      #40
                      Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

                      Originally posted by airboss75
                      Dude, it just isn't that serious bro. You sound steamed right now for losing in this manner (which is understandable) . That first option actually sounds like a great time, you dont think?

                      Thats what the game is for anyway. Sim heads are more offline (in my opinion) type of gamers anyway. Enjoy the legacy mode for a bit and level up, or just play ranked matches.

                      I haven't touched OWC as of yet. Who knows. I think I played a total of 10 OWC matches in Rnd4. Never was really interested in it. I was strictly legacy and ranked matches which was great for what it delivered. Legacy isn't anywhere near as robust as i would like it to be, but it'll do for now no doubt.
                      It is that serious! Not because it effects life or anything to that extreme. But on the simple level I got a game that has many modes but I have to limit what I can play because a company chose to make it so that if you want to actually be able to play the mode, well you need to spend more cash to level your guy up. This is what is wrong with where the gaming industry is going. Why are people spending their money on FAKE "points" just so they can play a mode and have fun with it??

                      Because it boils down to this, if you don't spend the money well your record is going to look something like this 10-200. Then if you choose to go through Legacy or Sparring in gyms it is going to take you several weeks to build up a character to be able to compete against guys who BOUGHT points.

                      Then to make matters even worse and you want to create a new character. Well you lose ALL your XP points and you have to start back at square one building your character up yet again just to be able to play OWC and have it be un-enjoyable. Because losing 20 in a row due to guys having maxed out punches is NOT enjoyable, I rather play a game where it is at least somewhat fair.

                      To further rub dirt in the faces of the guys wanting to level their guy up normally. These guys buying XP don't have this issue. If they want to create a new character, well they simply delete their character, build a new one and can REAPPLY their XP points!

                      So the XP points they purchased and received putting in no work they NEVER lose. But the guys that put in the hard work building a character, will lose his XP points permanently if they choose to start a new character..........Yea this is fair

                      Also I play 99% of my games online only. So since I am a online player primarily this removes a game mode which we can all agree WE PAID FOR!

                      Champion Mode = Cool
                      Legacy = Gets boring fast
                      Online Gyms = No Sliders
                      OWC = Full of exploiters

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                      • fistofrage
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13682

                        #41
                        Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

                        Originally posted by Phobia
                        It is that serious! Not because it effects life or anything to that extreme. But on the simple level I got a game that has many modes but I have to limit what I can play because a company chose to make it so that if you want to actually be able to play the mode, well you need to spend more cash to level your guy up. This is what is wrong with where the gaming industry is going. Why are people spending their money on FAKE "points" just so they can play a mode and have fun with it??

                        Because it boils down to this, if you don't spend the money well your record is going to look something like this 10-200. Then if you choose to go through Legacy or Sparring in gyms it is going to take you several weeks to build up a character to be able to compete against guys who BOUGHT points.

                        Then to make matters even worse and you want to create a new character. Well you lose ALL your XP points and you have to start back at square one building your character up yet again just to be able to play OWC and have it be un-enjoyable. Because losing 20 in a row due to guys having maxed out punches is NOT enjoyable, I rather play a game where it is at least somewhat fair.

                        To further rub dirt in the faces of the guys wanting to level their guy up normally. These guys buying XP don't have this issue. If they want to create a new character, well they simply delete their character, build a new one and can REAPPLY their XP points!

                        So the XP points they purchased and received putting in no work they NEVER lose. But the guys that put in the hard work building a character, will lose his XP points permanently if they choose to start a new character..........Yea this is fair

                        Also I play 99% of my games online only. So since I am a online player primarily this removes a game mode which we can all agree WE PAID FOR!

                        Champion Mode = Cool
                        Legacy = Gets boring fast
                        Online Gyms = No Sliders
                        OWC = Full of exploiters
                        What do your friends on the EA development team have to say about all this. Or are they just uncorking the champagne because the game got 8.5 ratings from the major sites. They probably think the game is a major success. Seems odd that they would pull a bait and switch on the community day guys.

                        Have they made any mention of what direction the series is going to take or if there will be another game in the series?

                        I might as well check back in a year and a half and see whats brewing.
                        Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                        • Phobia
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 11623

                          #42
                          Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

                          To be honest Fist, I have not been communicating with them since the Slider debacle. I was just to disgusted to plead my case, just to hear some corporate excuse.

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                          • Money99
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                            • Sep 2002
                            • 12695

                            #43
                            Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

                            Originally posted by fistofrage
                            What do your friends on the EA development team have to say about all this. Or are they just uncorking the champagne because the game got 8.5 ratings from the major sites. They probably think the game is a major success. Seems odd that they would pull a bait and switch on the community day guys.

                            Have they made any mention of what direction the series is going to take or if there will be another game in the series?

                            I might as well check back in a year and a half and see whats brewing.
                            Not that this helps, but EA was striving for an overall 90* metacritic rate with FNRd4, so I wouldn't doubt that they'd expect the same for FNC.
                            IGN giving it an 8.0 definitely helps as it's one of the biggest, if not biggest, online review sites out there.

                            For offline gamers out there I'm not sure the issues facing Legacy Mode will be addressed ever.
                            Their NHL series has been really bad for the GM mode. The sim stats are downright ridiculous and the other components of it are either shallow or broken.
                            EA has never been more focused on online team play where $$$ can be spent to build up your team or character.
                            That's why for FNRd6 you're going to see an even bigger emphasis for online gyms or OWC.
                            They might as well just scrap Legacy Mode altogether. They don't care about it and it shows in FNC.

                            *It might have been 92. I can't remember.

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                            • N51_rob
                              Faceuary!
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 14805

                              #44
                              I feel like EA used the community day guys to spread all this goodwill and excitement for the game only to pull the bait and switch. IDK OWC is a frustrating experience and not much fun. I don't know how long FNC is gonna last in my rotation. Its fun but limited not a lot of replay value based on the online experience.

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                              • fistofrage
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                                • Aug 2002
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                                #45
                                Re: OWC is perfect example how Micro-transactions is ruining gaming!

                                I think today was the day the series died for me. I have not bought the game thanks to the comments supplied by this board.

                                But I look at all the long time guys on the boxing board here and all I see is frustration. The community guys appeared to have been duped.

                                There is no chance of getting a sim now with a deep legacy. The Prizefighter II mode gained accolades and high ratings. Most likely because EA greased some palms. If a boxing fan reviewed this game what I am seeing is a 6 to possibly 7 rating at the most after the game has been thouroughly explored.

                                I'll check back in after a few patches and see what everyone is saying then. With the Show right around trhe corner, can't see where this would get much play time anyway.
                                Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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