EA forgot one MAJOR important FLAW

[steelernut]

I just fought A guy who I couldn't stand I will admit I Dq'D BECAUSE IT was such for lack of words such bull crap! He SPAMMED the lower body jab and I could not stop it. Even when I was throwing hooks to his body, and even when I was trying to block them they still got through. I'm not bragging but I'm pretty decent at this game, and I can usually improvise against SPAMMER. THis guy has mastered the the LOWER BODY JAB SPAM, I've seen allot of LOW BODY JAB SMPAMMERs BUT THIS GUY takes the CAKE HANDZ DOWN! I won't drop no names , AaaHHUUUMPPPP , johuachristina, this guy is 26-2 in the OWC lieght wieght DIV (he could b other, but I believe he sticks in the Light wieght), and I guarantee all his wins are off spamming. ANd on top of him abusing the flaw in the game he runs too! So I'm just passing word of mouth FELLAZ, Proceed this player with CAUTION! I would skip him at all cost! Until EA fix's the LOW BODY SPAM, which I feel they won't IMO..

[Oraeon1224]

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While I don't have your experience, since I retooled my boxer I have beaten about 5 body spammers relatively easily. They are usually spamming the triangle button (PS3). Since they tap it so hard and fast they can't control how many they throw. I move in and let them spam with 1-2 blocks then I tap the L. stick away to jump back and they eat air. Then as their punch is slower I move in and jab them in the gut about 3 times followed by a couple straight to the gut. After round 2 I change my strategy; as they now have worse stamina. I move in jab twice and then since they never bother to block I repeatedly straight punch them in the guts until they hit the block button--then I back off. Once the initial speed of round 1-2 is gone the straight will get in over their jab. If your straight body has any force it will drain them alot more than their jabs will effect you; and soon after 2 straights their jab dies to a snail pace. After about 2 rounds of this you can move in and single jab setup followed by repeated straights to the body and beat their jab everytime with a more powerful puch. Since they don't have any other punches they are then helpless by round 6-7 and you can start to unload hooks and uppercuts. Just be patient and down go toe to toe (run away when they start to spam then move in when they are exhausted and slow on the punch).

Do not under any circumstances hook or uppercut vs the jab--you will loose. You can only jab or straight against these opponents. The non-power punch straight to the body is the key to these guys. You have to work their body and beat them at their own game with a less developed but more powerful punch (my straigt body is only to the 1st star for my 82 ranked boxer).

Also critical in facing them is to never throw a single power punch the entire match. My stats from my last bout against an 86 stat body puncher vs my 82 stat middleweight, had my punch total 200 less than my opponent with only 11 power punches (used once they were wobbling) and only 40 total hooks and uppercuts. I won by KO in the 8th round and dominated on every score card but the first 2 rounds.

[steelernut]

Re: EA forgot one MAJOR important FLAW

While I don't have your experience, since I retooled my boxer I have beaten about 5 body spammers relatively easily. They are usually spamming the triangle button (PS3). Since they tap it so hard and fast they can't control how many they throw. I move in and let them spam with 1-2 blocks then I tap the L. stick away to jump back and they eat air. Then as their punch is slower I move in and jab them in the gut about 3 times followed by a couple straight to the gut. After round 2 I change my strategy; as they now have worse stamina. I move in jab twice and then since they never bother to block I repeatedly straight punch them in the guts until they hit the block button--then I back off. Once the initial speed of round 1-2 is gone the straight will get in over their jab. If your straight body has any force it will drain them alot more than their jabs will effect you; and soon after 2 straights their jab dies to a snail pace. After about 2 rounds of this you can move in and single jab setup followed by repeated straights to the body and beat their jab everytime with a more powerful puch. Since they don't have any other punches they are then helpless by round 6-7 and you can start to unload hooks and uppercuts. Just be patient and down go toe to toe (run away when they start to spam then move in when they are exhausted and slow on the punch).

Do not under any circumstances hook or uppercut vs the jab--you will loose. You can only jab or straight against these opponents. The non-power punch straight to the body is the key to these guys. You have to work their body and beat them at their own game with a less developed but more powerful punch (my straigt body is only to the 1st star for my 82 ranked boxer).

Also critical in facing them is to never throw a single power punch the entire match. My stats from my last bout against an 86 stat body puncher vs my 82 stat middleweight, had my punch total 200 less than my opponent with only 11 power punches (used once they were wobbling) and only 40 total hooks and uppercuts. I won by KO in the 8th round and dominated on every score card but the first 2 rounds.

THANK YOU! REALLY

[Build_Destroy]

Re: EA forgot one MAJOR important FLAW

While I don't have your experience, since I retooled my boxer I have beaten about 5 body spammers relatively easily. They are usually spamming the triangle button (PS3). Since they tap it so hard and fast they can't control how many they throw. I move in and let them spam with 1-2 blocks then I tap the L. stick away to jump back and they eat air. Then as their punch is slower I move in and jab them in the gut about 3 times followed by a couple straight to the gut. After round 2 I change my strategy; as they now have worse stamina. I move in jab twice and then since they never bother to block I repeatedly straight punch them in the guts until they hit the block button--then I back off. Once the initial speed of round 1-2 is gone the straight will get in over their jab. If your straight body has any force it will drain them alot more than their jabs will effect you; and soon after 2 straights their jab dies to a snail pace. After about 2 rounds of this you can move in and single jab setup followed by repeated straights to the body and beat their jab everytime with a more powerful puch. Since they don't have any other punches they are then helpless by round 6-7 and you can start to unload hooks and uppercuts. Just be patient and down go toe to toe (run away when they start to spam then move in when they are exhausted and slow on the punch).

Do not under any circumstances hook or uppercut vs the jab--you will loose. You can only jab or straight against these opponents. The non-power punch straight to the body is the key to these guys. You have to work their body and beat them at their own game with a less developed but more powerful punch (my straigt body is only to the 1st star for my 82 ranked boxer).

Also critical in facing them is to never throw a single power punch the entire match. My stats from my last bout against an 86 stat body puncher vs my 82 stat middleweight, had my punch total 200 less than my opponent with only 11 power punches (used once they were wobbling) and only 40 total hooks and uppercuts. I won by KO in the 8th round and dominated on every score card but the first 2 rounds.

If you have to do all of this then game is broken...the bodyspam lives

[boritter]

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I refuse to body spam body spammers. I'm won't cheese/cheat/exploit/glitch just because my opponent does because then I am part of the problem too. I have developed an alternative that works for me:

*Conserve energy over the first 5 rounds or so. Do NOT spam them back. EVER!

*Let them move in for the body spam. Block the first few punches then slide up or down (not straight back) by flicking the left stick.

*After you step away counter them with a body punch (NOT a head punch). I use a hook body punch on this step.

* When you counter only throw 1 punch. Throwing more punches only drains your stamina. The goal here is not to hurt them; you want to let them punch themselves out.

*Repeat this process until your opponent starts to do the tired, zombie walk animation (usually round 5).

*Once your opponent is gassed move in for the kill. They will be so tired that the body spam will be useless as long as you conserved energy. If they continue to body spam repeat the above steps but now start throwing 3-4 punches after you slide up or down. Your first punch should still be a body blow but the other 2-3 can be head shots.

Hope this helps.

[DurtySoufReppin]

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I refuse to body spam body spammers. I'm won't cheese/cheat/exploit/glitch just because my opponent does because then I am part of the problem too. I have developed an alternative that works for me:

*Conserve energy over the first 5 rounds or so. Do NOT spam them back. EVER!

*Let them move in for the body spam. Block the first few punches then slide up or down (not straight back) by flicking the left stick.

*After you step away counter them with a body punch (NOT a head punch). I use a hook body punch on this step.

* When you counter only throw 1 punch. Throwing more punches only drains your stamina. The goal here is not to hurt them; you want to let them punch themselves out.

*Repeat this process until your opponent starts to do the tired, zombie walk animation (usually round 5).

*Once your opponent is gassed move in for the kill. They will be so tired that the body spam will be useless as long as you conserved energy. If they continue to body spam repeat the above steps but now start throwing 3-4 punches after you slide up or down. Your first punch should still be a body blow but the other 2-3 can be head shots.

Hope this helps.

You can't block the body shots though...if they are throwing 1-2 combos..at least one of them will hit

[grunt]

Re: EA forgot one MAJOR important FLAW

I refuse to body spam body spammers. I'm won't cheese/cheat/exploit/glitch just because my opponent does because then I am part of the problem too. I have developed an alternative that works for me:

*Conserve energy over the first 5 rounds or so. Do NOT spam them back. EVER!

*Let them move in for the body spam. Block the first few punches then slide up or down (not straight back) by flicking the left stick.

*After you step away counter them with a body punch (NOT a head punch). I use a hook body punch on this step.

* When you counter only throw 1 punch. Throwing more punches only drains your stamina. The goal here is not to hurt them; you want to let them punch themselves out.

*Repeat this process until your opponent starts to do the tired, zombie walk animation (usually round 5).

*Once your opponent is gassed move in for the kill. They will be so tired that the body spam will be useless as long as you conserved energy. If they continue to body spam repeat the above steps but now start throwing 3-4 punches after you slide up or down. Your first punch should still be a body blow but the other 2-3 can be head shots.

Hope this helps.

I fight only on fight now. I had fighters doing the zombie walk in the first round. I love the flicker jab to the body or the head because now this is a major energy drain. I slide then jab or upper cut to the body.

The flicker jab to the body or the head is null and void due to stamina.

[clivo1050]

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I think the patch/tuner actually helped cheesers. They have now adapted and conserve their cheese. They'll run around the ring so you can't touch them then try to body jab spam when you get close. I can still beat most of them, but its highly annoying. I like to use the ring spacing and get off my jab to set up big shots, but I can't stand when someone just runs around the ring and backs up when you try and close on them.

[DaveDQ]

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Good post, Oreaon. I lost to one last night and was really taken back at how insane these guys are. They seriously jab and run all fight long. My approach is to try and take them to the later rounds and conserve my punches throughout. If I try and land punches, it's jabs to the head and body shots when I can. They will get tired in the later rounds. you just have to wait it out.

Another approach is to all together avoid a high reach guy. if I'm in middleweight and his reach is 80", I know what's comings. The problem is now though is almost everyone is doing it.

[fistofrage]

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Good post, Oreaon. I lost to one last night and was really taken back at how insane these guys are. They seriously jab and run all fight long. My approach is to try and take them to the later rounds and conserve my punches throughout. If I try and land punches, it's jabs to the head and body shots when I can. They will get tired in the later rounds. you just have to wait it out.

Another approach is to all together avoid a high reach guy. if I'm in middleweight and his reach is 80", I know what's comings. The problem is now though is almost everyone is doing it.

I've found that the smaller body spammers who know what they are doing un terms of winning at all costs are shorter guys with medium reaches. The longer reach guys tend to stay on the outside and actually try to box. Its these little ankle biters with the cartoon jackhammer jab that I have a problem with. I fiought a body spammer last night and he had it perfected. If he landed a body punch, its like I was sucked in and stuck and he would land 4. If he missed, he only threw 1 punch. Apparantly getting tapped in the thigh by a short body spammer is the perfect formula for victory post tuner/patch. My shots with my 6'6" boxer all whiff the short gut when hes's hunched over like he has a ring of protection around him.

I'm 31-9-0 with 26 KO's. If guys actually box, I usually win. 5 of my 9 losses were body spammers. I got 1 punch KO'd by a guy I was beating(pre patch/looney tuner), and 3 losses, I just got outclassed by better boxers. There is something very wrong with the fact that Body spammer can win any fights.

[steelernut]

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Man I'm so HAPPY i got this post going! I also wrote on the EA discussion list too. THere was one good point A guy made on here, he mentioned that no matter what spammer he faces he will never stoop their level. I'm the same way, call it pride lol ANd another point a guy made about how it's not fair that the true players who play the game the way its made, but loses to guys who spam there way to victory, That is really a PROBLEM when this occurs, especially when it's in high numbers in the online community. But please guys keep this post going, and write THE EA Discussion board, they recently put up a board wanting impressions on the new tuner. And even on that board THE LOW BODY SPAM was the most noticeable flaw that players discussed. So express these issues on there too! Hopefully it'll get changed I'll remain optimistic, until then thanks guys for the tips on how to beat these CHESSE HEADZ lol

[boritter]

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Now 3 days into the patch I'm really bummed. Before the perfect block stun was annoying, but the game was still enjoyable. Now EVERYONE does the body spam jab.

I have EA email me the stats after each game. I've thrown them in a spreadsheet and the amount of jabs post patch has gone up 54%. Granted, there could be many other variables. But it felt like it was body spammers gone wild. And then the stats confirmed it.

I'm moving on to Crysis 2 or Top Spin 4 until EA ***es this BS.

EDIT: Whit is it filtering f-i-x-e-s?