Why stamina and even accuracy should be lowered

[Lakers 24 7]

When I say lowering accuracy, I mean the game needs to put more emphasis on timing and finding the right window. The worse the timing is, then the lower the chance of success of that punch actually landing. That's boxing, creating angles, finding the right window, and perfect timing.

As is it's too easy to land punches, you can just throw and land in the 50% range, which isn't realistic.

You can also throw 100+ punches round after round which also isn't realistic.

Some real stats to prove that FNC outputs are currently unrealistic:

Berto vs Ortiz (12 Rounds)

Berto landed 31%
Ortiz landed 40%

highest punch output

Berto - 63 in round 6
Ortiz - 79 in round's 3 & 4

Hopkins vs Ornelas (12 rounds)

Hopkins landed 41%
Ornelas landed 22%

highest punch output

Hopkins - 59 in round 12
Ornelas - 53 in round 1

Mayweather vs Marquez (12 rounds)

Mayweather landed 59%
Marquez landed 12%

highest punch output

Mayweather - 65 in round 11
Marquez - 60 in round 9


*Notice how the defensive boxers outbox their opponents, wearing them down, and then in the final stage of the fight try to pour it on.The type of strategy that needs to be a viable one in FNC.

Pascal vs Dawson (11 rounds)

Pascal landed 27%
Dawson landed 31%

highest punch output

Pascal - 48 in round 6
Dawson - 59 in round 11


A huge difference from what we're seeing in FNC. If EA truly wants an authentic product then they must change the stamina and accuracy. Until then they're simply patching the wrong areas and will never find the perfect balance.

[fistofrage]

Re: Why stamina and even accuracy should be lowered

In order to lower punch output to get inline with a professional fight, you have to have all the other things implemented correctly, especially clinching.

The guys aren't throwing low number of punches because of stamina, they are throwing low number of punches because they don't want to leave themselves open and clinching and other things are taking up time in the round.

In fight night, if you only throw 40 punches a round, it feels like you haven't done anything because the rest of the sport inside the ring isn't represented.

[jtdribbles25]

Re: Why stamina and even accuracy should be lowered

In order to lower punch output to get inline with a professional fight, you have to have all the other things implemented correctly, especially clinching.

The guys aren't throwing low number of punches because of stamina, they are throwing low number of punches because they don't want to leave themselves open and clinching and other things are taking up time in the round.

In fight night, if you only throw 40 punches a round, it feels like you haven't done anything because the rest of the sport inside the ring isn't represented.

clinching is definitely part of it. But to say stamina isn't is not true. Boxers do not throw more on a consistent basis because of the risk of punching themselves out. You have to dig deep from time to time and really push it to throw +70 punches. Oviously not leaving themselves open is part of the risk/danger factor.

But there are plenty of times in a round that there was no clinching. That time is not spent just clinching. they circle each other and feint punches and yes, some times just stand there. I play some people online that box this way, and we have great bouts. Throwing 30-40 each round. the suspense is definitely there for us.

we should get a match fist.

[Sausage]

Re: Why stamina and even accuracy should be lowered

The only way this may work is if they remove the invisible rope that keeps both players facing each other. We are not able to move well enough to create the angles. It's like both fighters are always on a 2D plane.

[fistofrage]

Re: Why stamina and even accuracy should be lowered

clinching is definitely part of it. But to say stamina isn't is not true. Boxers do not throw more on a consistent basis because of the risk of punching themselves out. You have to dig deep from time to time and really push it to throw +70 punches. Oviously not leaving themselves open is part of the risk/danger factor.

But there are plenty of times in a round that there was no clinching. That time is not spent just clinching. they circle each other and feint punches and yes, some times just stand there. I play some people online that box this way, and we have great bouts. Throwing 30-40 each round. the suspense is definitely there for us.

we should get a match fist.

Yeah, stamina obviously plays a role, but alot of fighters would like to throw more punches especially after they have hurt their opponent, but can't because of clinching, leaning on the other fighter, not giving them the room to let the hands go, etc.

And yes the feints and other strategies are needed too. But alot of this stuff that eats up time like clinching, feinting, circling, etc is needed because you are trying to get an advantage, find a crack or get your opponent off his gameplan, in addition if you lose focus for a split second, it could be over.

There is no danger in FNC. Worst case scenario, you get knocked down, pop up at 2 like you just had a refreshing nap and off you go again.

[threattonature]

Re: Why stamina and even accuracy should be lowered

The stamina is a little too high still but I disagree with accuracy. I regularly force oppenents to under 40% connection. But I will add on I have yet to play with this latest tuner set.