The Oddness of Patch Number One for FNC

[DaveDQ]

Now that I look back at this game, from it's release day to now, I really do scratch my head and wonder what happened with this title. It's not really about whether or not I enjoy it. I still do and even had a great online fight last night in OWC, but something happened with this game.

For starters, EA pushed a theme. It was the theme of brutality, yet in one swipe of a patch the newly added facial damage for cuts and bruising was all but nonexistent. Another feature, whether we thought it was poorly implemented or not, was the one punch knockout. That too, gone.

So now I'm wondering what was the overall push for this patch, why was it so poorly implemented and why would they remove two key features that they purposefully put in the game in its initial development? I do enjoy the game but the word that comes to mind is sloppy.

[The Visualizer]

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This game's release has been an absolute disaster, it's good for EA that this is a niche title that didn't draw a lot of attention as any other dev would have been lambasted for the decisions made. Now that 1 Punch K.O.'s and Damage have been removed that makes 3 "main" features that have been scrapped, as punching from the guard was removed just prior to the demo despite being included as a new feature in a few pre-release videos, because late testing revealed it was too much of an exploit.

Game released with a ton of bugs, most still exist. The pre-order bonuse George Foreman unlock didn't work for a lot of people and still hasn't been resolved for everyone to this day. People criticized the gameplay balance and they took 1 step forward and 2 steps back with the patch and tuner going to extremes to appease the online crowd, instead of tuning cautiously and with a plan. A majority of people who complained about the game on the game's official forums and were censored to high hell, posts deleted, and the forums main page at one point was changed to all sticky posts to attempt to hide the fan's discontent with the direction of the game. Amateur hour over at EA Sports.

I don't even know why I still own the game, I am holding out hope that they stumble into a miracle and this mythical Patch #2 that we may or may not ever get knocks it out of the park and addresses all of my concerns or else I'm just gonna trade this in somewhere and be rid of it.

[clivo1050]

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Upon release, I thought FNC was a good game. It needed some tweaks here and there, but it was on the right path.

The patch and tuner have almost completely ruined the game for me. I've only played it a handful of times since. If they don't fix what they broke, I will promptly be trading it in.

[thegreatest20]

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This is a completely unproven opinion, but I believe they toned down the damage and the blood in order to sell the "bare knuckles" mode; why would people by bare knuckles if they can get the same result with gloves on?

[petz_e]

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This would make sense in a way. So, is there indead more blood in a bare nuckle fight?

[DavonBrown]

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This would make sense in a way. So, is there indead more blood in a bare nuckle fight?

Yeah; lots more.

[DaveDQ]

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This is a completely unproven opinion, but I believe they toned down the damage and the blood in order to sell the "bare knuckles" mode; why would people by bare knuckles if they can get the same result with gloves on?

I don't think i can agree there. Bare Knuckles is a blood bath after round one. You don't need to see it removed in normal mode to appreciate it in bare knuckles.

I seriously think they released the patch and said to themselves, "Oh crap, I think we removed one punch KOs and facial damage by accident."

[ajns]

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I don't think i can agree there. Bare Knuckles is a blood bath after round one. You don't need to see it removed in normal mode to appreciate it in bare knuckles.

I seriously think they released the patch and said to themselves, "Oh crap, I think we removed one punch KOs and facial damage by accident."

I'd like to believe in the "oops theory," but we pretty much know now that 1 punch KOs were removed purposely to address power modified spam online. The hope was that they could fix them and put them back in, but who knows at this point. Could be an oops on the damage, but who knows.

[Hova57]

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the game wasn't that bad out the box. the cpu stamina needed fixed and body spamming that was it. out of no where we lose 1pko and cuts, body spamming gone,but jab spamming and straights don't connect. I really do like the game, but the cpu stamina not going down after rounds especially ones where they were knockdown and no stamina hit, that is killing it for me. I still play but like Dave said why or how that first patch was made and certified with the issues it made I don't understand.

[ajns]

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the game wasn't that bad out the box. the cpu stamina needed fixed and body spamming that was it. out of no where we lose 1pko and cuts, body spamming gone,but jab spamming and straights don't connect. I really do like the game, but the cpu stamina not going down after rounds especially ones where they were knockdown and no stamina hit, that is killing it for me. I still play but like Dave said why or how that first patch was made and certified with the issues it made I don't understand.

Well, you have two possible answers to the last question: 1) They knew other things would be broken by what they were doing to address the jab spamming and power modified spamming, but hoped people wouldn't notice or that they would be willing to trade those things off for what the tuner/patch corrected; (2) They were ignorant of how changing certain parts of the game would effect other parts.

Considering they built this thing from the ground up themselves, I have a hard time believing #2 or any version of it. It think it is much more likely that it is some version of #1. If I am wrong, and it is #2, I don't think that exactly inspires confidence in what can be done from here on out to fix this title.

[boritter]

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I think the patches were an example of the danger of game developers tweaking games solely based on the opinions of the angry 10-16 year old forum crowd.

Although fan-developer communication is beneficial, there is a reason why 14 year olds are not put in charge of game development.

[thegreatest20]

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I don't think i can agree there. Bare Knuckles is a blood bath after round one. You don't need to see it removed in normal mode to appreciate it in bare knuckles.

I seriously think they released the patch and said to themselves, "Oh crap, I think we removed one punch KOs and facial damage by accident."

I realize that, but that's not really my point. My point is that I think they said to themselves, "if we remove most of the damage and then put out a mode to download that has excessive amounts of damage in it, we can make money off that."

I wasn't trying to say pre-patch regular boxing is the same as post-patch bare knuckles. Business-wise it makes a lot of sense, it's just frustrating.

But again, I could be completely making that up in my head, who knows.

[ajns]

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I realize that, but that's not really my point. My point is that I think they said to themselves, "if we remove most of the damage and then put out a mode to download that has excessive amounts of damage in it, we can make money off that."

I wasn't trying to say pre-patch regular boxing is the same as post-patch bare knuckles. Business-wise it makes a lot of sense, it's just frustrating.

But again, I could be completely making that up in my head, who knows.

I hope that you are wrong, as it would be some of the worst bait and switch I've ever seen.